Less than 15 hours to go and we shall......

[Value Buy]

Have a decision and Regime change takes effect!

Change-it cannot come soon enough!


Attention any undecided voters:
If you have not made up your mind by now, it is probably too late for you to make a comprehensive decision

[handyman2]

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[handyman2]

If we keep the same administration Value Buy is that I will sit down with you and drink half those bottles of beer and half for you and we will split the last one.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

196 days now. But until what?

[Value Buy]

Ok, I will update the title.
Just do not want to do it daily, as the libs will all complain.
Hey, PBP, Romney, might pick up 200 votes towards the nomination this week!

[Value Buy]

Apr 24, 2012 19:50:43 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

196 days now. But until what?

Republican Glory, of course.

[gavinsnana]

[Value Buy]

Romney performed a sweep tonight. All Primaries were in the victory column tonight!
Whoops, there goes another......

[Value Buy]

deminmane,
kind of like President Obama and the Democratic nomination this year.
No Don Quiote out there. Where is the Democrat's Ron Paul this year?
Oh, and President Obama has officially "won" the political nomination for the Presidency this fall.
Did anyone notice this?
Or care?

[Deleted]

I am not so sure who will win. The one thing i have learned in life that there is no such thing as a sure thing. Anything can happen and we will have to wait and see.

[Deleted]

I think Obama has the advantage. He is the incumbent. And, people seem to like him personally even if they don't like his policies.

[floridayankee]

Apr 25, 2012 6:33:15 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Kind of like in the old USSR when you only had one candidate. Of course Khruchev won!

Apparently you slept through the prior three and a half months.

BTW, weak attempt at equating the republican party with the old Soviet Union.

[floridayankee]

Apr 24, 2012 20:35:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Apr 24, 2012 19:50:43 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

196 days now. But until what?

Republican Glory, of course.

Dream on. Romney will never pick up enough of the fiscal conservative votes and we'll have the RNC establishment to thank for going all in on another losing pony. It will be Obama for another four.

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

Republican Glory, of course.

"John Boehner: A one-in-three chance GOP loses the House

[wyouser]

Does all this mean the 2016 Presidential campaign begins in 196 days, or will they take a day off first?

[gavinsnana]

Apr 25, 2012 6:57:47 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

deminmane,
kind of like President Obama and the Democratic nomination this year.
No Don Quiote out there. Where is the Democrat's Ron Paul this year?
Oh, and President Obama has officially "won" the political nomination for the Presidency this fall.
Did anyone notice this?
Or care?

Nope! ;D

[gavinsnana]

Apr 25, 2012 8:14:13 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Apr 24, 2012 20:35:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Republican Glory, of course.

Dream on. Romney will never pick up enough of the fiscal conservative votes and we'll have the RNC establishment to thank for going all in on another losing pony. It will be Obama for another four.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

[b2r]

[floridayankee]

Apr 25, 2012 12:16:12 GMT -5 gavinsnana said:

Apr 25, 2012 8:14:13 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Dream on. Romney will never pick up enough of the fiscal conservative votes and we'll have the RNC establishment to thank for going all in on another losing pony. It will be Obama for another four.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

I would. I honestly don't see either of them getting the fiscal conservative vote...especially if Gary Johnson can get his message out. I imagine hard core dems will fall in lockstep behind Dear Leader. I can also see hard core repubs falling in behind Dear Leader lite.

I would almost guarantee that Gary Johnson will filter off enough votes from fiscally conservative republicans and independents to hand the WH back to Obama. Hopefully the repubs don't fuck it up bad enough to deliver him a filibuster proof majority in congress as well.

[Driftr]

If GJ gets the Lib nod I'll still grudgingly vote for him. Not happy that he won't call what the banks did fraud or that he left the mess he did with his previous campaign being in the red. Of the three likely choices though, he will leave me with the least bad taste in my mouth. Unless by some miracle RP gets the R nod. Then I'm in the R camp.

[floridayankee]

Apr 25, 2012 13:20:54 GMT -5 Driftr said:

If GJ gets the Lib nod I'll still grudgingly vote for him. Not happy that he won't call what the banks did fraud or that he left the mess he did with his previous campaign being in the red.

lol...that's it? You do realize that these are nothing but piddly-ass talking points that, even taken together, don't quite even reach mole hill status, don't you?

But, I guess the republicans and media have to target something negative to demonize the man to distract the gullible from looking at the much longer list of positives that actually matter.

[Driftr]

Apr 25, 2012 13:45:48 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

lol...that's it? You do realize that these are nothing but piddly-ass talking points that, even taken together, don't quite even reach mole hill status, don't you?

But, I guess the republicans and media have to target something negative to demonize the man to distract the gullible from looking at the much longer list of positives that actually matter.

That's all I've seen Denninger whine & complain about. But I haven't looked for anything personally. I knew I wouldn't vote for President Obama again and I knew I wouldn't vote for Mitt, Newt, or Rick, so that leaves Ron or Gary as the only possible alternatives at this point.

I only hope the sum total of our votes adds up to a large enough mole hill that the Ls feel emboldened and can move forward or the Rs realize they had best rethink their strategy or they'll lose again in '16.

[Value Buy]

Only six months to go!
that would be 15 12 pks of beer, or Chardonnay, depending on your candidate of choice.

[Value Buy]

I suggest everyone should read this article on France's Presidential election.
worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/07/11573747-frances-flashy-fiery-nicolas-sarkozy-is-ousted-by-unassuming-socialist?lite

Five years ago, France thought they had a winner.
Today, not so much.
Many parallels can be compared to our current President.

[Value Buy]

Sarkozy's inauguration day jog, which conveyed youthful vigor, ultimately epitomized what many French came to see as jejeune, self-centered antics unbefitting of a president at a time when economic troubles and persistently high joblessness were on most minds.

"I take full responsibility for this defeat," he said after the results came out Sunday night. "My role cannot be the same again. My engagement in the public life of my country will be different from now on. I am preparing to become just one French citizen amongst many."

Sarkozy scored 48.4 percent of the vote, according to official data with most of the votes counted.

Meet Monsieur Caramel Pudding, France's next president

Some political brethren grumbled that Sarkozy should have officially jumped into his re-election race earlier, instead of clinging to his mantle as head of state until February. Other pundits suggested that less controversial conservatives such as Prime Minister Francois Fillon or Foreign Minister Alain Juppe would have had a better shot at beating Hollande than Sarkozy did.

A frank-speaking, energetic and media-savvy former interior minister, Sarkozy won the presidency in 2007 over Segolene Royal — Hollande's former partner, and mother of his four children — with an unlikely campaign built on promises of "rupture" from the policies of Jacques Chirac, his fellow conservative and former mentor.


Franck Fife / AFP - Getty Images

Socialist Francois Hollande and his partner Valerie Trierweiler wave to supporters early on Monday after ousting incumbent Nicolas Sarkozy.

It was personal style, many pollsters said, that largely did in Sarkozy. After his 2007 victory speech on Place de la Concorde, Sarkozy sped over to one of the ritziest restaurants on the Champs-Elysees to celebrate; then he jetted off to the yacht of a tycoon friend in the Mediterranean. Critics pounced on the showiness.

A lackluster economy and his inability to make good on his 2007 race promises to shrink persistently high joblessness didn't help. In the fourth quarter of 2011, France's unemployment rate was nearly 10 percent. In January, S&P downgraded France's state debt rating from its top tier, delivering a blow to his image as financial-manager-in-chief.

Sarkozy sought to cast himself as powerless: On the 2012 campaign trail, he repeatedly pointed to Europe's financial crisis — in places like Italy and Greece — that endangered the euro zone. He sought to cast himself as a "ship captain whose boat was in a full storm."

In many ways, Nicolas Sarkozy was an anomaly as France's president.

Off-the-cuff remarks
He had a foreign-sounding surname. He didn't attend the most elite French university for public servants. He seemed to relish in chucking out the regal niceties of the presidency. His off-the-cuff remarks, like calling a somewhat belligerent passer-by at a Paris farm fair "a poor jerk," got him in trouble.


Hmmn, sound familiar?

[Value Buy]

Other than failing to start his campaign earlier, it sounds much like our President's three years in office.

[Deleted]

The only thing that really matters is who wins when the votes are counted. I don't put a lot of stock in predicitons either way.

[Value Buy]

May 7, 2012 7:03:17 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

May 7, 2012 6:54:49 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Other than failing to start his campaign earlier, it sounds much like our President's three years in office.

Really?
Sarkozy came into office and had a messy divorce from his first wife.
Then he married a fashion model/ singer.
He earned the nickname "bling bling" for wearing fancy too big watches and other showy and glitzy fashion acutrements.
I don't see the personal connections to Obama at all.
France has an unemployment rate of over 10% and climbing.
France is in the middle of an austerity program which is creating a downward economic spiral.
Sarkozy is a conservative.
Nope, I don't see the political or economic connections either.

take the blinders off.
our unemployment rate is much higher than 8%. Closer to 10%.
We all know it.
we should be on an austerity program-Obama will not allow it.
the economy has began slipping again, anyway.
Many liberals here claim Obama is a conservative, but granted I do disagree with this. He is a Socialist.

[billisonboard]

May 7, 2012 7:10:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

...
Many liberals here claim Obama is a conservative, ...

I have seen many point out the the Obama Administration has pursued middle of the road policies, but that Obama is a conservative, not so many.

[Value Buy]

May 7, 2012 7:19:04 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

May 7, 2012 7:10:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

...
Many liberals here claim Obama is a conservative, ...

I have seen many point out the the Obama Administration has pursued middle of the road policies, but that Obama is a conservative, not so many.

And I have seen many here complain the President has followed Bush's policies, and no one has ever claimed he was middle of the road......