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Post by sgtjer on Mar 2, 2012 19:40:10 GMT -5
Keep the contest alive, please .... not only is it entertaining, in a morbid sort of way, but it's pretty much become the theme music for the downfall of the repubs in 2012.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 2, 2012 20:38:21 GMT -5
I think that polls from the states having primaries on Super Tuesday are more significant than a national poll. i disagree. the primaries work on momentum. the national polls tell you precisely where the momentum lies. why? because that is where the money for candidates is. whether Santorum wins Oklahoma or not is immaterial. it is where his donors live, and how they see him as a candidate- which is on a national scale. no, Santorum has serious problems now. his lead in Ohio is going to go away. mark my words. he is not going to win that state. it doesn't matter what the polls say now. the momentum is swinging in Romney's favor, and unless Santorum stops it, he is finished.
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Post by usaone on Mar 3, 2012 14:18:38 GMT -5
No matter how you slice it or dice it or pretend, our party is in disarray.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 3, 2012 14:23:49 GMT -5
No matter how you slice it or dice it or pretend, our party is in disarray. it is a complete mess. i have been reading about the electoral votes today, and what Paul said last month seems possible: that no candidate will have enough votes to win. Gingrich is going to win a few in the South. Santorum is going to win a few in the midwest. Paul is going to syphon off votes in all the proportional delegation states. Romney might not get enough delegates to win before the convention. he really needs to kick ass today and on Tuesday, and put Santorum to bed, or this is going to be a very difficult election for the GOP.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 3, 2012 14:27:34 GMT -5
Or maybe a brokered convention in which none of the current candidates, bloodied from the primary fight, is the Republican nominee is the best chance for the GOP in November? ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/idunno.gif)
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 3, 2012 14:42:14 GMT -5
Or maybe a brokered convention in which none of the current candidates, bloodied from the primary fight, is the Republican nominee is the best chance for the GOP in November? ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/idunno.gif) i don't think there are but two candidates that could provide enough unity to beat Obama. but i will say this: most Republicans would not lose a wink of sleep knowing that Romney was not the chosen candidate.
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Post by diamonds on Mar 3, 2012 19:00:14 GMT -5
I have spoken to my ex-sister-in law in Mass. this past week. She divorced my brother to marry a multi-millionaire and they do not like Obama at all. I asked her what she thought about Romney and she said they liked him there. Of course, when you have a ton of money and investments as they do, they are able to afford the best private insurance available.
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Post by Don Perignon on Mar 3, 2012 19:12:07 GMT -5
Jealousy is a harsh mistress.
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Post by diamonds on Mar 3, 2012 19:25:56 GMT -5
Jealousy is a harsh mistress. Are you talking to me? Jealous? Never. I saw the man when I visited my nephew that has since passed, and I would not sleep with that man if he were a billionaire. ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/sick.png) He met her on a business trip to Taiwan as my brother did, in a brothel. He was married at the time, and she used my brother to bring her to the States. My brother was in the military and fell in love with her and they were married for 10 years, however it wasn't love for her. Her love was for the big bucks.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 3, 2012 19:29:54 GMT -5
Sounds like someone who would like Romney.
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Post by diamonds on Mar 3, 2012 19:36:50 GMT -5
Sounds like someone who would like Romney. Of course, the house is so big when I went to visit, I came down the stairs in the morning and couldn't find the kitchen. Funny, when I was there and we were all eating dinner together, he could never look me in the eyes. Why? He couldn't keep his paws off my brother's wife. Guilt, plus his children disowned him because of the divorce. Ack, they deserve each other.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 3, 2012 19:42:37 GMT -5
Sounds like someone who would like Romney. Of course, the house is so big when I went to visit, I came down the stairs in the morning and couldn't find the kitchen. Funny, when I was there and we were all eating dinner together, he could never look me in the eyes. Why? He couldn't keep his paws off my brother's wife. Guilt, plus his children disowned him because of the divorce. Ack, they deserve each other. And Romney. and btw, why did you visit these people?
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Post by Don Perignon on Mar 3, 2012 20:00:42 GMT -5
I don't know anyone who would fly or drive across country (from AZ to MA) to visit an ex-sister-in-law that they didn't love and respect. Granted, I'm not from a large family. I did have a cousin who came back from Viet Nam to marry a masseuse... but she was an American masseuse, and they divorced after only a couple of years, no kids. I didn't dislike her, but we didn't stay in touch or anything.
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Post by diamonds on Mar 3, 2012 20:30:14 GMT -5
Of course, the house is so big when I went to visit, I came down the stairs in the morning and couldn't find the kitchen. Funny, when I was there and we were all eating dinner together, he could never look me in the eyes. Why? He couldn't keep his paws off my brother's wife. Guilt, plus his children disowned him because of the divorce. Ack, they deserve each other. And Romney. and btw, why did you visit these people? I went to visit my brothers son, my nephew as I did babysit him as a child when I lived in Vegas. I was close with my nephew and when I went there he was a senior in HS. I'm so happy I did because after he graduated college and had a job lined up, he felt short of breath one day and my siser-in-law took him to the doctor, and he was diagnosed with testicular cancer. He was gone six months later at 22. He never smoked and I never knew of his drinking although maybe he had a few beers in college. One of the times I did watch him was in grammer school as ahe was off with the rich one. I attended his PTA and one of his teachers told me he had a genius IQ. He was our families jewel. I have to say she treated my mother with respect and was good to her and visited her later when mom was in a nursing home with Alzheimer's.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 4, 2012 0:51:10 GMT -5
I have spoken to my ex-sister-in law in Mass. this past week. She divorced my brother to marry a multi-millionaire and they do not like Obama at all. did you ask why?
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 4, 2012 11:55:31 GMT -5
Romney won another state yesterday. Put Washington in the win column. Super Tuesday is coming. Could be good for Romney
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2012 12:05:24 GMT -5
Romney won another state yesterday. Put Washington in the win column. Super Tuesday is coming. Could be good for Romney 37.6% for Romney, 62,4% for someone else (and that is only counting the Republicans).
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Post by diamonds on Mar 4, 2012 12:09:42 GMT -5
I have spoken to my ex-sister-in law in Mass. this past week. She divorced my brother to marry a multi-millionaire and they do not like Obama at all. did you ask why? All she told me was they lost a lot of money in their 401K.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 4, 2012 12:23:01 GMT -5
All she told me was they lost a lot of money in their 401K. the S&P 500 bottomed out at 700 about (3) years ago, and is now pushing 1400. the ONLY way i can think of that someone would have lost "a lot of money" during this administration would have been to SELL at 700, and then just sit there and do nothing. i am puzzled why anyone would blame Obama for that bad PERSONAL decision. but i think i am starting to understand what is going on, here: it appears that those that thought the world was going to end under Obama turned out to be completely wrong, and they are pissed off about it, and taking it out on Obama.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 8, 2012 12:11:06 GMT -5
the new polling is interesting. Santorum is not losing any more ground after Tuesday, and has gained a couple of points. i think he is going to do very well until the Oregon primary on the 18th, and might gain some MORE ground. so, as we discussed on the Super Tuesday thread, that was NOT a knockout blow by Romney. Santorum is going to dog him. at least for another couple of weeks.
stay tuned............................................
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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 8, 2012 13:01:58 GMT -5
the new polling is interesting. Santorum is not losing any more ground after Tuesday, and has gained a couple of points. i think he is going to do very well until the Oregon primary on the 18th, and might gain some MORE ground. so, as we discussed on the Super Tuesday thread, that was NOT a knockout blow by Romney. Santorum is going to dog him. at least for another couple of weeks. stay tuned............................................ I don't think he is doing as well as CNN or any other delegate counting place thinks. Minnesota for one is non-binding and I am willing to bet Ron Paul takes a lot of those. Heck half of these are non-binding. Plus If you look at Santorum's campaign, they were not even smart enough to get onto the Virginia ballot, what makes you think they even know what the delegate process is. Santorum is more popular votes, not educated delegate process votes. In 2008 when I was with the RP grassroots( no association with the campaign), we dedicated most of our meetings to learning how to get delegates. We knew voting is the easiest part(which really doesn't count all that much in the primaries). I knew the campaign managers for Michigan and my brother knew the one in SC, they worked even harder to get the delegates in place. Now you have to see last year we had a late start with RP and funding so by the time we were learning these techniques it was a little to late. I bet RP ends up with a huge chunk of delegates in the convention.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 8, 2012 13:20:27 GMT -5
dj likes to look at national polls as indicators. I have had no success in get him to question their worth.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 8, 2012 13:28:20 GMT -5
dj likes to look at national polls as indicators. I have had no success in get him to question their worth. dude. i just called Ohio within 0.1%. a little credit, please.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 8, 2012 13:30:34 GMT -5
the new polling is interesting. Santorum is not losing any more ground after Tuesday, and has gained a couple of points. i think he is going to do very well until the Oregon primary on the 18th, and might gain some MORE ground. so, as we discussed on the Super Tuesday thread, that was NOT a knockout blow by Romney. Santorum is going to dog him. at least for another couple of weeks. stay tuned............................................ I don't think he is doing as well as CNN or any other delegate counting place thinks. Minnesota for one is non-binding and I am willing to bet Ron Paul takes a lot of those. Heck half of these are non-binding. Plus If you look at Santorum's campaign, they were not even smart enough to get onto the Virginia ballot, what makes you think they even know what the delegate process is. Santorum is more popular votes, not educated delegate process votes. In 2008 when I was with the RP grassroots( no association with the campaign), we dedicated most of our meetings to learning how to get delegates. We knew voting is the easiest part(which really doesn't count all that much in the primaries). I knew the campaign managers for Michigan and my brother knew the one in SC, they worked even harder to get the delegates in place. Now you have to see last year we had a late start with RP and funding so by the time we were learning these techniques it was a little to late. I bet RP ends up with a huge chunk of delegates in the convention. campaigns are all about momentum. Romney's has stopped. that really doesn't mean that Santorum has any. i didn't actually say that. what i said was that Santorum is likely to BUILD some in the next 10 days. he might not. but if he does, it is going to be hard for Romney to deliver the KO punch before the convention.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 8, 2012 13:30:45 GMT -5
dj likes to look at national polls as indicators. I have had no success in get him to question their worth. dude. i just called Ohio within 0.1%. a little credit, please. I missed that one. Was it here on this board?
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 8, 2012 13:35:51 GMT -5
dude. i just called Ohio within 0.1%. a little credit, please. I missed that one. Was it here on this board? i said that he (Romney) was going to win, and then i called the margin that night when he was still trailing. see Super Tuesday thread.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 8, 2012 13:38:55 GMT -5
Yeah bills, it was. I saw it. to lay my hand bare, i also said that Romney would be competitive in TN. he wasn't. basically ALL of the undecided vote there went to Santorum- which is kinda astonishing.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 8, 2012 13:45:58 GMT -5
I missed that one. Was it here on this board? i said that he (Romney) was going to win, and then i called the margin that night when he was still trailing. see Super Tuesday thread. I am hearing that it is getting closer and that areas of the state that haven't reported are more likely to be supporting Romney. you are hearing right. the urban precincts are underreported in the early counting. as the night wears on, Romney will pull steadily ahead and win by about 1% Credit.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 8, 2012 13:48:39 GMT -5
i said that he (Romney) was going to win, and then i called the margin that night when he was still trailing. see Super Tuesday thread. you are hearing right. the urban precincts are underreported in the early counting. as the night wears on, Romney will pull steadily ahead and win by about 1% Credit.[/quote]] thanks. that was big of you. the basis for that prediction was (mostly) national polling.
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