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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 25, 2011 20:44:57 GMT -5
oh come on, silver dollar. if I can avoid saying 98% of what I'm thinking, you can too.  |
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Post by silverdollar on Jun 25, 2011 21:26:54 GMT -5
Maybe I can moonbeam. If you believe that I can be a better person then maybe I can. I will try.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 25, 2011 22:04:18 GMT -5
In that case silver dollar.
I'm not saying the ice berg idea is going to work. It was a starting point for a conversation that has lots of topics. I thought it was kind of interesting. The guy has been at it for 40 rs. Also, it doesn't mention anything about irrigation, he wants to use the fresh water that is just melting into the ocean, for drinking water. If it works, and his margins are correct, his dream will come true.
You never know what could happen . I imagine people were telling some inventors that you can't use the grey water from your sink and tub to fill your toilets, or you can't use your toilet water to water you lawn. Those both work.
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Post by commentator on Jun 25, 2011 22:38:56 GMT -5
I guess I overestimated you Mr. Happy Meal. I believed you when you said this was a serious discussion and I shot some serious facts and figures your way and you dropped your thread. The honorable way would have been for you to admit you had your head in the clouds, again, and were wrong, again. Silver Dollar, this is a personal attack.. it is in violation of the CoC : Please Read... "our COC « Thread Started on Dec 23, 2010, 5:24pm » Who is Mr. Happy Meal? BTW, if this was a personal attack, I want my money back. |
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Post by commentator on Jun 25, 2011 22:41:50 GMT -5
I just can't do it moonbeam. I'm not going to make the grade. Even now my brains are telling me to make a comment about how funny Franky's comb-over looks. The merciful thing would be to put an end to me now and end my suffering. They do it for horses you know. Time for ol' Silver Dollar to go to the great internet pasture in the sky. I sympathize with you, Silver. Learning the definition of "personal attack" as actually applied, has always been and will always be a moving target. That said, if you do hang around I make no promises regarding what I might say to or about you. Sympathy only goes so far.  |
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Post by commentator on Jun 25, 2011 22:58:09 GMT -5
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jun 26, 2011 0:24:27 GMT -5
Moon, You should have been at the BBQ tonight.. The Ribs were great with both dry and wet rubs.. The Rib eyes were Prime Angus cut 2 inches thick. Brisket was great with the same dry rub and Merlot wet rub..sweet and spicy.. all of the rubs systems have been posted on .. Also the First time I offered the 2008 Right side Bordeaux St Peters of Texas Hermitage got great reviews.. very concentrated flavour  with a undertone of vanilla and black Cherry... (Merlot 181 -95% and LeNoir 5%).. Well this was 100% politics and a set up by me... Let me get to the topic of the event.. Water.. I am in a fight with an Eastern Concern for the water rites associated with the "Grey Water" from Abilene. TO MAKE A VERY LONG STORY SHORT THEY ARE WANTING TO MOVER THE WATER FROM OUR SENSITIVE RECHARGE AREA (FOR THE UNDERGROUND RECHARGE) OF THE ABILENE WATER AND USE IT IN THE COOLING TOWERS IE GOING INTO THE AIR AND WOULD BE LOST TO THE AREA. . We have been hot and heavy with some real power house ranchers as to land and development rites of the Oil for Algae project and as the other post said it takes some fresh water to keep the salinity level at about sea concentration or less.. Everything in the meal requires water from the Feed out lot for the Angus to the Pecans for the pie.. Please see on page 1..Post #26.. We have had some very nasty law suits over water and water quality in West Texas.. The advantage we have over the coal burning power plant is we can use up to 5% Salt in the water and a pH of 8.3 .. They can not.. So why build a coal plant in West Texas, Import the coal from the east and ship power to the east where they have water. Also we have no problem with a high PO4++ levels that have been problems with the dairy industry.. We have seen dairies close up and move to Arizona from pollution( PO4) discharge.. Water is a major resource...we lack it and that will kill the Green Project for renewable hydrocarbons AS WELL AS THE LOSS OF RECLAIMED WATER FROM THE FRESH LAGOON (POND) SYSTEMS THE ALGAE LIVE IN. Thank -you for your thoughts and understanding, Bi Metal Au Pt |
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jun 26, 2011 0:46:33 GMT -5
 Commentator, Let me know but from my view point everyone gets an A++.. K4U.. Louie agrees with this and only wished his name was "Mr. happy Meal".. He got his Organic duck and Doggie's Crill Crackers.  .. The picture is Louie looking for his Water .. Someone forgot his water bowl Have a great Week End!!! Bi Metal Au Pt   Attachments:
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Post by commentator on Jun 26, 2011 0:47:03 GMT -5
Bi Metal, please do not hijack threads with posts that are off-topic.
ETA: re BBQ post ;D
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Post by commentator on Jun 26, 2011 0:50:18 GMT -5
bimetal, you are probably a great guy (at least that's my presumption until you prove me wrong) but you are a bit naive.
Not attacking, just sayin'
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 26, 2011 1:30:51 GMT -5
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jun 26, 2011 1:56:14 GMT -5
Bi Metal, please do not hijack threads with posts that are off-topic. ETA: re BBQ post ;D Commentator, It is pure power plays by the Eastern Group with the fancy Philadelphia Lawyers...It is all about water and raising capital for one great project.. As you may know I blew a Dog and Pony show and know I did it.. I have friend that keep telling me I did not but only spoke the truth about the project and the importance of the water in lake north of Abilene,TX. This is why I missed the May 21 meeting at the 21 Club..Long story..or is it the Wrong Story...Did you go back to Re: Water « Reply #26 Yesterday at 1:06am »  ? It will make for a better understanding of the who who of the deal.. I wish I would use the words I really feel on the subject but Moon would have me head.. Just a thought.. Please keep up the good work.. Great call.. Sorry I had to get my thoughts together and my insulin shot before finishing..Thank-you for your ear, Bruce Attachments:
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Post by silverdollar on Jun 26, 2011 6:20:08 GMT -5
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Post by smackdown on Jun 26, 2011 6:33:25 GMT -5
After one full page of hijacked thread gumbo... how about getting back on topic.
It isn't water for power generation, BiMetal. It's water to drink. Anyone living in Texas knows that Dubya lessened the standards there for purification so you've been enjoying putrification for a decade now. Allowing Texans to become associated at all with the Great Lakes would be terrorism. Allowing Big Business, Big Lawyers, Big Anything would make it a Big Mess. Sabotaging core industry and thus the national economy in order to deflate property values so greedy resource absconders can buy it cheap for profits to reap is-- TERRORISM. Thank GOD, we are hanging on as the nation slowly moves toward recovery. Perhaps we will be able to maintain the irreplaceable value that is 20% of the world's fresh water supply and not blow it hosing down shale to pull the oil out of it so Texas can gouge us some more by refining it and suppressing all alternatives that would make oil a thing of the past.
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Post by commentator on Jun 26, 2011 7:38:16 GMT -5
commentator, I want to bounce an idea off you. What if we start a support group for personal attackers? Maybe call it Attackers Anonymous? Maybe we could have our own message board where we could have regular meetings and stuff and when one of us has the irresistible urge to attack one of the rat-packsters then we could send each other private messages cussing each other out instead. This could be big. What do you think? btw, don't worry about hurting my feelings. In the world I live in men rag on each other all the time. It's fun to let off a little steam so that one doesn't blow their cork. Silver, that's an interesting idea.  |
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jun 26, 2011 8:36:47 GMT -5
After one full page of hijacked thread gumbo... how about getting back on topic. It isn't water for power generation, BiMetal. It's water to drink. Anyone living in Texas knows that Dubya lessened the standards there for purification so you've been enjoying putrification for a decade now. Allowing Texans to become associated at all with the Great Lakes would be terrorism. Allowing Big Business, Big Lawyers, Big Anything would make it a Big Mess. Sabotaging core industry and thus the national economy in order to deflate property values so resourced absconders can buy it cheap for profits to reap is-- TERRORISM. Thank GOD, we are hanging on as the nation slowly moves toward recovery. Perhaps we will be able to maintain the irreplaceable value that is 20% of the world's fresh water supply and not blow it hosing down shale to pull the oil out of it so Texas can gouge us some more by refining it and suppressing all alternatives that would make oil a thing of the past. VL,Re: Water Same Water.. The Water plant is right on the Lake next to the Power Plant( Natural Gas for local use)...Ski boats and fishing....so the use of the waste water PO4 is not improving the water.. Did you read Reply Number 26.. Fresh water is improved with the legume system and the water is great.. B.Braunii will remove all the PO4 and other bad things is removed from the fresh water and processed in Salt water to remove the oil ..etc. Now that said please explain your hijacked thread jumbo..."[glow=red,2,300]Sabotaging core industry and thus the national economy in order to deflate property values so greedy resource absconders can buy it cheap for profits to reap is-- TERRORISM.[/glow] Just a thought, Bi Metal Au Pt |
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Post by The Virginian on Jun 26, 2011 19:02:08 GMT -5
Am I the only one that is completely lost on this thread? It's as if nothing here is following any logic or understandable path. Maybe if I had a drink or two I could understand what the heck is going on!!  |
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jun 26, 2011 20:37:46 GMT -5
Bi Metal, please do not hijack threads with posts that are off-topic. ETA: re BBQ post ;D Commentator, Sorry, I just had my head in the clouds... See Subject was water and I was talking about "Sensitive recharge zones" for water in West Texas ..For drinking water and how Unfit Capping North of Anson,TX has made the AQUIFER salty vs area next to the Lake Fort Phantom is usable because they did not drill of oil in this area. Funny thing about Abilene,TX is you can have rain in the mountains South of town and not a drop of rain in Abilene yet Abilene floods with water on the way to the lake.. It is all about water and have water to drink..In West Texas it is raining 10 inches in 10 minutes or nothing for months.. I thought that was the subject we were talking about.. Water to drink. Just a thought, Bruce aka Bi Metal Au Pt Attachments:
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Post by resume on Jun 26, 2011 21:52:47 GMT -5
 If that doesn't open some sincere dialogue...nothing will.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 26, 2011 22:48:29 GMT -5
Everything your talking about is on topic B. K4u. Algae production in water to clean it and then use that same algae grown in water to make oil.  Water also generates electricity. We need to use flood water better, what a waste. |
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jun 26, 2011 23:51:09 GMT -5
Everything your talking about is on topic B. K4u. Algae production in water to clean it and then use that same algae grown in water to make oil. Water also generates electricity. We need to use flood water better, what a waste. A++, Thank-you for your kind words!! Yes, The City spent about 5 million dollars on the Cat-claw to cement it from the mountains to Lake Fort Phantom as a shovel ready project.. It must be working as we have not flooded this year. Not sure how much it rained but in the past they would have to close off I20... In this area the water runs from South to North..That is why we have an Abilene,Tx.. The Rail Road did not want to go over the Steamboat Mountain so they went North through the Pass.. Now you can see Wind Turbines from Stephenville to Big Spring,TX on both sides of I20 ( old Bankhead Hwy) on the Messas and Mountains.. Esp West of Odessa,TX the Rail Road Built stations anywhere they could find water.. They used some of the largest Windmill you have ever seen.. Some as high as 200 feet. Water ruled the T&P until it ran out of money. Just a thought, Bi Metal Au Pt Tower may not be E-126 as the bottom is not green Thank-you, Bi Metal Au Pt Attachments:
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 27, 2011 1:04:50 GMT -5
NP B, you deserve them. K4U It's interesting how the rail really dictated where these towns are across the prairies. Here in Saskatchewan if they would have had a few less settlements along the line, our rural towns wouldn't be in the shape they are in. I can't wait to see those wind towers along I20.. ;D Looks like I might end up in a place that is looking along those lines.. Oh ya water. If they would have built this dam.. town.outlook.sk.ca/skytrail/skytrail-4.html in a different spot. I would have grown up in a lake town. Here is Saskatoon, Sk the S.Sask River is very high. All that water is controled at that dam. The farmers around Outlook are looking for water.. ;D |
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Post by domeasingold on Jun 29, 2011 14:00:51 GMT -5
Guys,
Sooner or later someone is going to want a pipeline built from the great lakes to Texas. Oh, wait. There already is one, it's called the Mississippi river.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 30, 2011 1:37:18 GMT -5
But that pipeline is flooded almost every year. All that water, wasted. I know where it comes from..  This is great. Wastewater to clear water, and electricity to boot. GE, others invest in wastewater bioreactor news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20075367-54/ge-others-invest-in-wastewater-bioreactor/"The Megawatter System is not built as a standalone plant, but is actually a system of modules that can be installed in existing wastewater treatment plants, according to Emefcy. The MFC modules consist of anodes, membranes, and cathodes, as well as electrical and air connections." |
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Post by smackdown on Jul 3, 2011 6:36:34 GMT -5
Do you have accessibility to the water maps in your state?
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Post by smackdown on Jul 5, 2011 7:33:01 GMT -5
You have two primary issues in Texas. First is that you lack subterranean water. Because you do, the topsoil is dust. Second, too much draining of oil has left huge empty holes and contaminated mineral deposits. The build-up of population areas throughout a state that cannot support them is your main problem. Drawing from other states won't help either. Society needs to realize that the call for lush green lawns falls well-below sustaining a stable eco-system. When you build homes in the desert, try astro-turf if you need green. Grass won't last without impacting another aspect in nature.
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jul 5, 2011 21:12:24 GMT -5
You have two primary issues in Texas. First is that you lack subterranean water. Because you do, the topsoil is dust. Second, too much draining of oil has left huge empty holes and contaminated mineral deposits. The build-up of population areas throughout a state that cannot support them is your main problem. Drawing from other states won't help either. Society needs to realize that the call for lush green lawns falls well-below sustaining a stable eco-system. When you build homes in the desert, try astro-turf if you need green. Grass won't last without impacting another aspect in nature. VL, Well we have two factors in a city that work on the water tables.. Roads and Parking lots increase the rate of run-off of water to the sensitive recharge areas and holding ponds/lakes of the area. The water table under Midland has rinses some 25 feet in 100 years. The major part of Midland,TX water is pumped from deep wells North of the city that is part of the high plains aquifer. The other factor about the non-native trees is very true.. They drink up the water. The Good news is Texas has been so hot that ranchers are starting to raise more goats ( Mohair). Goats eat anything and know how to get there. Well it will take time but the trend is there!! Water right are increasing and we sold my last farm land for the water. Just what it takes for a good glass of pure water in Midland,TX during the hight of the dry season. |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jul 7, 2011 2:26:38 GMT -5
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Post by smackdown on Jul 7, 2011 7:16:22 GMT -5
BiMetal... you missed the point. Texas was never meant to house more people than its resources could accommodate. Going outside the state's borders for them is not the right solution. Texas is a national pariah state because it STOLE companies from other states and relocated work forces so it wouldn't suffer the same economic consequences as all other states-- caused by George W. Bush. What the USA needs today is a flushing out of Texas and re-balancing it to be the barren desert of ranches it once was and a modest population that can be supported by what little resources it can manage.
Water-- did you know that rivers running into population centers across the nation and experiencing "treatment" leave those cities pickled by the zillions of chemicals flushed down toilets and sinks in the form of expired medicines? It's time to get BUSINESS out of ECOLOGY and make the balancing and care thereof-- a PRIORITY.
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jul 7, 2011 13:00:41 GMT -5
BiMetal... you missed the point. Texas was never meant to house more people than its resources could accommodate. Going outside the state's borders for them is not the right solution. Texas is a national pariah state because it STOLE companies from other states and relocated work forces so it wouldn't suffer the same economic consequences as all other states-- caused by George W. Bush. What the USA needs today is a flushing out of Texas and re-balancing it to be the barren desert of ranches it once was and a modest population that can be supported by what little resources it can manage. Water-- did you know that rivers running into population centers across the nation and experiencing "treatment" leave those cities pickled by the zillions of chemicals flushed down toilets and sinks in the form of expired medicines? It's time to get BUSINESS out of ECOLOGY and make the balancing and care thereof-- a PRIORITY. V.L., Well you have me..  .. Texas is a large state and full of real assets like the Big thicket where trees are thicker then any pine land. It rains over 50 inches a year there and we log it every 10 years. Austin is home to high tech products as well as Dallas. We have some of the strongest banks in the nation like First Financial here in Abilene,TX. Texas has also supplied man power to the worlds oil industry for over 50 years.. In places like SA, Norway and Iraq. Heard of Halliburton or Smith or Hughes Tools? Yes we recycle water in West Texas and reuse it all the time.. Well we have a lot of goats as they do very well and eat the trees we do not want. The Mohair industry has been a strong element long before oil or other energy systems were here in West Texas. Texas is know for Cows but few know we have the largest county for milk production just East of here.. Erath county home of Tarleton University. A very well know school in the field of Ag-economics. ( I hold a MBA with Thesis from their). Yes , we care about water quality and defend our rites for clean water to drink. Also we have great underground water systems in the High Plains.. This is why Texas Grape-growing is one of the fastest growing part of Texas Food productions higher Tier Agriculture systems( huge value added vs cost). Well I find your statement false.. What the USA needs today is a flushing out of Texas and re-balancing it to be the barren desert of ranches it once was and a modest population that can be supported by what little resources it can manage.
.. Do you wish to defend your statement with facts??? The fact is we are short skilled workers like Tool and die Markets... Just a thought, Bi Metal Au Pt |
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? It will make for a better understanding of the who who of the deal.. I wish I would use the words I really feel on the subject but Moon would have me head..
