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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 9:47:43 GMT -5
We all thank you for coming clean. It was the right, honourable thing to do. That said, we can now safely conclude that you're also the felon responsible for any and all avatar disappearances, smiley malfunctions, server outages and slowdowns (bandwidth theft), lengthy poster hiatuses (kidnappings), the recent string of random bannings, and all of the 'Smite' feature abuses that ultimately led to its disablement. Shameless hooligan. Hey...waitaminutenow! DOn't be palming off your nefarious deeds on me!
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 9:48:38 GMT -5
Aw...heck...who can possibly be mad at Virgil?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 6, 2011 10:16:24 GMT -5
Thanks, Cheesy. Lassie beats me when all of you aren't looking. "Who's going to believe you?" she taunts me. "Who's going to believe you?"
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Nov 6, 2011 10:17:45 GMT -5
Aww - you know I'm just teasing you - and you love it.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 10:33:50 GMT -5
I see you are suffering from delusions again Virgil!
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Nov 6, 2011 10:54:53 GMT -5
I see you are suffering from delusions now Virgil! Just Now?? ;D
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 11:01:07 GMT -5
Let me rephrase that....
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Post by Opti on Nov 6, 2011 11:43:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure how I feel about Virgil calling me odd. At least I'm Iggy class odd. I see Archie as contrary not odd. He loves to add verbal contrariness to a thread to provoke posters.
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Post by diamonds on Nov 6, 2011 12:26:37 GMT -5
Now someone cheap and flashy wants us to incriminate ourselves by naming people that we perceive as odd. In doing this, it will only backlash on us and not him. Who needs more enemies? ha..ha...I could name a few more, but would then have to go in hiding...
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 6, 2011 12:34:07 GMT -5
I'm with Moon in thinking that animals just don't have the mental/emotional depth to fulfill all the capacities that characterize "best" friends. Pets (thinking of dogs, or possibly cats or pigs) have the advantage of being completely non-judgmental of course, which most people consider a boon. Most are affectionate and comforting. In rare cases, pets will perform intentionally selfless or self-sacrificing acts. Some people find them to be good listeners. And more often than not, pets are companionable, a boon to our physical and emotional health, and a low-burden, low-stress relationship devoid of complications. But pets lack the ability to empathize with us in most situations (mainly due to lack of comprehension) and I think most people innately understand this. Pets don't often exhibit unselfish behaviour (although they can become quite skilled manipulators) and even more rarely do they reciprocate much of the effort we spend to make them happy and comfortable (feeding, petting, playing, grooming, etc.). Because of their lifespans, we limit our emotional investment. The relationship comes with a (usually 10- to 15-year) limited term. Human friends are better able to empathize, able to provide advice, able to enjoy a much broader range of activities, and are a far less "safe" kind of relationship that IMO necessitates a greater emotional investment. Human friends comprehend our problems at a much deeper level. They often reciprocate as much or more effort invested in a relationship, and can show their affection in a much broader set of ways: advice, nights out, favours, gifts (both giving and gratefully receiving), referrals, physical assistance, etc., etc. Human friendships don't usually come with a short predetermined time limit. They usually aren't one-sided in the sense that one member holds all the true power as is the case with a master/pet relationship. And most importantly—and what I imagine many pet owners will take exception to—I truly believe pets are incapable of loving us as much as humans. (There may be rare, rare exceptions.) They have primitive, needs-driven minds. Their relationship to us is an extension of a dominant/submissive hierarchy in the wild, which is a merciless, self-serving, get-over-it-fast-or-you-die kind of place. In short, although they may be incredibly dependent on us, dependence is not usually a sufficient platform on which to build a "best" friendship. Having said this, some people, either due to bad luck or odd circumstances or nuclear halitosis or an abnormal personality, lack the ability to attract friends, forge friendships, and feel loved in those friendships. I know only two such individuals. For these people in particular, I have no trouble understanding why their best friends of all time were animals (cat, and bird, respectively).
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 6, 2011 12:42:24 GMT -5
Maybe I should've made the poll A) ...sapient life. B) ...non-sapient life.
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Post by Opti on Nov 6, 2011 12:56:58 GMT -5
<wonders when the $$ will be deposited in her acct.> I'll wait in gleeful anticipation with you IG.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 6, 2011 14:03:25 GMT -5
When you get the urge, you've got to Virge. That's 'Virge', not 'purge'. Actually, forget I said anything.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 14:05:38 GMT -5
LOL! Virgil!
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Post by lilyofcourse on Nov 6, 2011 14:27:26 GMT -5
Does it matter if they still have a pulse or not?
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Post by diamonds on Nov 6, 2011 15:18:59 GMT -5
Not really...
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 6, 2011 15:24:19 GMT -5
In rare cases, pets will perform intentionally selfless or self-sacrificing acts. ------------------- My rats used to bring me their own food when I was sick. They would pile it up near my head when I was dying on the couch. I had to pretend to eat some of it, or they wouldn't stop staring at me, and forcing me to eat by sheer will.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 15:32:56 GMT -5
If you were dying on the couch...how come you are still here?
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 6, 2011 15:56:17 GMT -5
If you were dying on the couch...how come you are still here? Evidently, I recovered after 2 weeks in the ICU.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 6, 2011 15:59:35 GMT -5
I received the Last Rites, and everything! As an atheist, that really pi$$ed me off! I don't know who put the priest up to it, but when I find out..... I was drifting in and out of consciousness. I woke up briefly to see what looked like a giant black bird of prey mumbling over my supine form. Scared the hell out of me.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 16:05:36 GMT -5
Wow...you were that ill? I didn't mean to make light of it!
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 6, 2011 16:08:35 GMT -5
Wow...you were that ill? I didn't mean to make light of it! Lol! That's OK. I'm as good as new. Evidently, the rats knew just how sick I was. I didn't.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 6, 2011 16:53:47 GMT -5
Unconscionable! Everyone knows the appropriate last rights for atheists must be read from the Book of Dawkins 8:12-13: And lo, as this carbon-based organism followeth countless insignificant organisms before it into primordial mush from whence it came, may we findeth solace in the utter accident of its creation and beautiful pointlessness of its existence. May our philosophers one day contriveth a means of belabouring all organisms with their ethical reasoning, that all should embrace nullity whilst paradoxically clinging to notions of 'right' and 'wrong' with the same fervor as this exemplar. Thus saith Dawkins, prophet of the almighty Science. Amen. And again, amen.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 6, 2011 17:12:13 GMT -5
And lo, as this carbon-based organism followeth countless insignificant organisms before it into primordial mush from whence it came, may we findeth solace in the utter accident of its creation and beautiful pointlessness of its existence. May our philosophers one day contriveth a means of belabouring all organisms with their ethical reasoning, that all should embrace nullity whilst paradoxically clinging to notions of 'right' and 'wrong' with the same fervor as this exemplar. Thus saith Dawkins, prophet of the almighty Science. Amen. And again, amen. ------------------- Yeah, that would work for me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2011 17:24:25 GMT -5
Maybe I should've made the poll A) ...sapient life. B) ...non-sapient life. that might have worked for me better since technically my best frind is my 30 year old teddy bear. At least he doesn't get pissy when I can't hear him. (deaf in one ear and 60-65% in the other).
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 17:32:06 GMT -5
Maybe I should've made the poll A) ...sapient life. B) ...non-sapient life. that might have worked for me better since technically my best frind is my 30 year old teddy bear. At least he doesn't get pissy when I can't hear him. (deaf in one ear and 60-65% in the other). I am 90% left & 75% right!
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 6, 2011 17:40:24 GMT -5
Is that an accurate assessment, though, punkles? :-\
Of all the people you've known and all the pets you've owned, not one has been a better friend to you than a stuffed bear?
Think of it this way: suppose a nuclear bomb goes off in your current city of residence and you happen to be in a subway tunnel when the denotation occurs. You're trapped in the tunnel, but it turns out that the basement to "Discount Groceries and Hardware" caved in nearby and so you have a plentiful supply of food, water, toiletries, supplies, games, etc. You also have a half-mile of open subway track in which to "spread out".
Suppose you could have just one person/animal/thing (such as your teddy) with you, to wait with you for one year until rescuers finally managed to reach you through the rubble.
Would that one person/animal/thing still be your teddy, or would you choose something/someone else?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2011 17:42:26 GMT -5
I am 90% left & 75% right! [/quote] How did you lose yours? Spinal meningitis as an infant here. And do you bother with a hearing aid for your right? I loathe the thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2011 17:43:07 GMT -5
oops, sorry. Don't want to hijack this thread.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 6, 2011 17:45:13 GMT -5
Mine is a result of congenital rubella. I do wear the left. I didn't for a long time. I do hate my digitals. I have worn analog my whole life and finally when I needed new ones last summer, analog is no longer an option. I cannot understand speech as well with the digitals compared to analog, and it really pisses me off.
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