Miss Tequila
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 12, 2011 20:29:33 GMT -5
I guess that makes me a sociopath. Or an asshole. You could really go either way with that I was going with cold-hearted bitch...but whatev
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Miss Tequila
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 12, 2011 20:30:06 GMT -5
Well in my defense, my 5 year old was busy painting my toe nails and calling me Mommy Dearest. LOL!!
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Loopdilou
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 12, 2011 20:38:20 GMT -5
I guess that makes me a sociopath. Or an asshole. You could really go either way with that I was going with cold-hearted bitch...but whatev That's because you like your clear cut gender roles
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hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Jan 13, 2011 8:13:12 GMT -5
"So you don't even care when someone close to you dies?"
I've only ever had grandparents die, but no, I didn't really care. I had good relationships with them while they were alive, but I didn't really feel anything when they died. I try to convince myself that if someone closer to me died (gf, parent, sibling, nephew) that I would care a lot more, but to be honest, I'm not sure I would. I know I would feel bad if they were in pain, but I'm not sure I'd care once they were actually dead.
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Miss Tequila
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 13, 2011 8:21:32 GMT -5
I was going with cold-hearted bitch...but whatev That's because you like your clear cut gender roles I do not...unless we are talking about the NFL...women CLEARLY do not belong there
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KaraBoo
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Post by KaraBoo on Jan 13, 2011 9:35:59 GMT -5
I'm coming into this conversation late, but I believe 100% that my Ex is a sociopath. Unfortunately, I only realized it early last year. I've done a lot of research on it and have to be careful with what I say/do as we have a child together that he has visitation rights to.
Since I've finally learned what I'm dealing with in him (his actions/lack of actions drove me crazy for almost 15 years before I finally figured this out), I'm able to respond to him in a much more appropriate way to keep MY sanity intact and our son safe.
One example of how he has shown no emotion, guilt or responsibility - when my son was 9, he was visiting with his dad on a scheduled visitation weekend. Ex took DS on his motorcycle (with girlfriend on another bike) to another person's house at 1am in the morning and then left DS there as DS had fell asleep. DS woke up in a strange person's house, without his dad and truly believed his dad had left him there on purpose and forgot about him. Ex didn't pick DS up until around 11am the next morning.
When I confronted Ex about this, his response was - "DS wanted to go on a motorcycle ride and I wanted to make him happy. I didn't forget about him, he was playing with the other kids and he fell asleep (there were no other kids there according to DS). I was being a responsible parent by not putting him back on the motorcycle to take him home. I didn't leave him at a stranger's house, I'm good friends with these people - it doesn't matter that DS has never seen them before or been to their house, you should trust me to do the right thing. Me leaving him there is the same as you letting him spend the night at your friend's house (that I've known for 30 years and DS has grown up around) so you're the one in the wrong on this - back off and quit interrogating me about this. After all - who are you going to believe? A 9 year old or an adult?"
We (DH and I) suspected at the time this little midnight trip of his was a visit to a drug dealer's house (we had been suspicious about drug use, but had nothing to back it up, just a hunch). Right after that, I filed for sole custody with Ex only being allowed supervised visitations for 2 hours every 2 weeks (I do have the option to modify if Ex got clean or showed improvement). Since I've found out about the sociopathy - I've continued the visitation schedule as is because one of the responses with dealing with a sociopath is limiting contact.
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 13, 2011 12:02:56 GMT -5
My EX is one, my DD who has a double major, one of which is Psychology, gave me the book and told me to read it as it helps her deal with him. When I read it, it totally made sense including why I still am afraid of him. I think I developed my coldness as a reaction/protection against him. I'm not sure I would grieve as people close to me died, either. The fear would be of letting go of emotion would leave you "weak" and therefore vulnerable.
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ysi
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Post by ysi on Jan 13, 2011 16:23:31 GMT -5
There is a wide variant within this category.
There is a conscious sociopath who knows what they are and knows what they should be-that person fits the bullet points on your list.
There is a situational sociopath who perhaps doesn't recognize this trait in themselves-for example, hypothetically or when their own wants and needs aren't being challenged, they may appear quite socialized-but ask them to ever sacrifice for the greater good-then you will see what lies beneath.
I don't believe sociopath is the correct term for the Arizona shooter-sociopaths know right from wrong and proceed anyway-to me they have clear thought processes. That person was clearly mentally deranged without clear thought processes.
Also, it is easy to take charachteristics of an individual and apply them to a category-but I don't believe drug/alchohol use, promiscuity, emotional lability, etc are across the board tied to the term sociopath. (Broken leg age 30-there is no causal relationship between broken leg and age of 30?)
Also, if conditions are favorable, a sociopath can be quite successful in life.
Sociopaths are essentially cold, facile, intelligent, and without conscience.
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NomoreDramaQ1015
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 13, 2011 16:36:47 GMT -5
Where is Xyz, this thread seems right up her alley.
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