gavinsnana
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 13:54:18 GMT -5
Um Tosh? My post? Link Please! Hey Femme! Hey My Sista from anotha Mista! Hey Sweet Mamma. Guess Tosh is ignoring me..
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Tosh
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Post by Tosh on Oct 31, 2011 13:55:24 GMT -5
I am not asking you to prove God, I am asking you to tell me why the bible is historically accurate ?
It makes some extraordinary claims that require extraordinary evidence.
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gavinsnana
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 13:55:50 GMT -5
Here is a clue, it has nothing to do with faith. We have libraries full of ancient myths, are they also true ? I will answer this Tosh if you respond to my post dear! ;D
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 13:55:55 GMT -5
Hey My Sista from anotha Mista! Hey Sweet Mamma. Guess Tosh is ignoring me.. Don't worry, he will get around to you when his little brain kicks in to over load and he has something wise to once again come back with. ;D
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 13:56:52 GMT -5
I am not asking you to prove God, I am asking you to tell me why the bible is historically accurate ? It makes some extraordinary claims that require extraordinary evidence. As opposed to the evidence we need from you, that us believing makes no sense. See? This is just like a turn table.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 13:57:48 GMT -5
For Nanna... Even though you were going to smite me this morning! ;D
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 13:57:50 GMT -5
I am not asking you to prove God, I am asking you to tell me why the bible is historically accurate ? It makes some extraordinary claims that require extraordinary evidence. And Scientist over the years have found some of that "extraordinary" evidence. Are you gonna post the link or you just gonna side step and ignore?
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Tosh
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Post by Tosh on Oct 31, 2011 13:58:19 GMT -5
Patience Texas, have faith in old Toshy. ;D
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 13:58:28 GMT -5
The Bible is well researched. Not by me but by Biblical scholars. You can read their accounts and dissection and evidence. It is beyond the scope of my typing abilities. This means nothing to Tosh, Snerd...Remember?
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 13:58:48 GMT -5
For Nanna... Even though you were going to smite me this morning! ;D Who, me? ?? #devil# Da Devil made me do it! #shucks2# #angel2#
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 13:58:52 GMT -5
Patience Texas, have faith in old Toshy. ;D Lmao!
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Post by Shirina on Oct 31, 2011 13:59:23 GMT -5
Oh, I don't presume to speak for everyone else. When I said "we" I was referring to atheists and agnostics, not everyone. Sorry for the lack of clarity.
However:
Gavinsnana falls into the same trap. She doesn't KNOW God exists. If she did, then it wouldn't be "faith." It would be fact. Except it's not fact. If atheists have to accept that we can't prove God doesn't exist, then believers have to acknowledge that claiming God does exist is the opposite end of the same extremism. I tend to gravitate toward agnosticism more so than atheism since it cannot be proven yay or nay on whether God exists.
However, I consider myself a religious atheist which essentially means that I don't believe in religion.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 13:59:32 GMT -5
For Nanna... Even though you were going to smite me this morning! ;D Who, me? ?? Da Devil made me do it! I know...The devil is making me stay over here an argue with a one-tracked mind too. ;D
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 14:00:07 GMT -5
Patience Texas, have faith in old Toshy. ;D No, I have none. You said Moses lifted it.. prove it.. Come on.. ;D
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 14:00:49 GMT -5
Oh, I don't presume to speak for everyone else. When I said "we" I was referring to atheists and agnostics, not everyone. Sorry for the lack of clarity. However: Gavinsnana falls into the same trap. She doesn't KNOW God exists. If she did, then it wouldn't be "faith." It would be fact. Except it's not fact. If atheists have to accept that we can't prove God doesn't exist, then believers have to acknowledge that claiming God does exist is the opposite end of the same extremism. I tend to gravitate toward agnosticism more so than atheism since it cannot be proven yay or nay on whether God exists. However, I consider myself a religious atheist which essentially means that I don't believe in religion. And that's your choice.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 31, 2011 14:01:24 GMT -5
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 14:01:37 GMT -5
Wait, she's suppose to be on ignore. Guess the server going down messed that up. Back, she goes.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 14:03:00 GMT -5
Oh, I don't presume to speak for everyone else. When I said "we" I was referring to atheists and agnostics, not everyone. Sorry for the lack of clarity. However: Gavinsnana falls into the same trap. She doesn't KNOW God exists. If she did, then it wouldn't be "faith." It would be fact. Except it's not fact. If atheists have to accept that we can't prove God doesn't exist, then believers have to acknowledge that claiming God does exist is the opposite end of the same extremism. I tend to gravitate toward agnosticism more so than atheism since it cannot be proven yay or nay on whether God exists. However, I consider myself a religious atheist which essentially means that I don't believe in religion. You seem to be mixing my post with anothers. I KNOW God does exist, I just cannot prove it, just as no one else can disprove God. I have Faith in God, not just "well I hope its true" thats not faith. I have no problem with those who do NOT beleive either. We are all given a choice.. Don't you agree?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 14:03:08 GMT -5
Who, me? ?? Da Devil made me do it! Weird that your emoticons did post. Oh, there they are. The first time I looked they hadn't. It did the same to me, Lone.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 31, 2011 14:04:22 GMT -5
Wow.....really ?
Where is it then, cough it up, is it a secret ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 14:04:24 GMT -5
Your arguing makes me want to not exist. Do you exist because you believe you exist or do you exist because you are real and can prove you exist?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 14:04:45 GMT -5
Wow.....really ? Where is it then, cough it up, is it a secret ? I wanna see, I wanna see!!! ;D
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 14:06:26 GMT -5
Silly, God does exist. Not everyone believes in God, and thats their choice, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. This is my post. ^^^^.. Where does it say that I don't know God exists? Need glasses?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 14:06:43 GMT -5
Wow.....really ? Where is it then, cough it up, is it a secret ? I wanna see, I wanna see!!! ;D I'm sure if you look it up, you can find it. But I don't think you care and I'm not trying to be a smart azz either. Just like I'm not looking up atheism. Not interested in it.
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Post by Shirina on Oct 31, 2011 14:06:56 GMT -5
Or, perhaps, there is an afterlife independent from God, one that we experience without God's input. Since our lives seem to play out with any interference, our transition to the next life may also occur without interference ... and without the fire and brimstone. It is simply a natural process. What that afterlife may be is anyone's guess, but we can make certain deductions. For instance, a true paradise would have to be unique to each individual, not a one size fits all affair. Perhaps our own belief influences the result or even shapes the next reality.
However, the idea of going to Heaven, where our existence serves no definable purpose or where we simply "bask in God's glory" sounds equally as hellish as a lake of fire.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 14:07:17 GMT -5
Silly, God does exist. Not everyone believes in God, and thats their choice, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. This is my post. ^^^^.. Where does it say that I don't know God exists? Need glasses? ( snicker)...Nanna! When you calling me?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 31, 2011 14:07:52 GMT -5
I could have sworn I felt the wind just blow...Oh, it was that ignore button. My bad! ;D
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 14:08:52 GMT -5
Wow.....really ? Where is it then, cough it up, is it a secret ? Nope, I will have to find links, but I have seen it on World History. Evidence of flooding and the Ark. I will find some and get it to you. Thanks for giving me that link. I do want to read about it and draw my own conclusions and search it out..
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Post by Tosh on Oct 31, 2011 14:11:24 GMT -5
FF,
I am not the one wo is making the claim, you are.
You state the bible is true, I need your reasons for stating this fact.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 31, 2011 14:11:54 GMT -5
Silly, God does exist. Not everyone believes in God, and thats their choice, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. This is my post. ^^^^.. Where does it say that I don't know God exists? Need glasses? ( snicker)...Nanna! When you calling me? You got my #
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