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Post by femmefatale on Oct 27, 2011 10:54:46 GMT -5
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Post by Tosh on Oct 27, 2011 10:55:11 GMT -5
Aha, someone on here has an inquisitive mind, Joey, you have become the apple of my eye.
Read the book and you will fully understand why I use it.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 27, 2011 10:58:31 GMT -5
It is strange how cause and effect works, in real life I am compared to Jack Nicholson, that must be the reason you love me too.
Except I married the daughter, my wife is 20 years younger than me.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 27, 2011 11:19:52 GMT -5
It is strange how cause and effect works, in real life I am compared to Jack Nicholson, that must be the reason you love me too. Except I married the daughter, my wife is 20 years younger than me. ;D Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 27, 2011 11:24:10 GMT -5
Mean? Because I pointed out that the bible says to avoid demonology and the occult? How on earth is that mean? I didn't write the thing, just drawing attention to the dichotomy. I'm sorry if it makes you feel threatened. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 11:40:01 GMT -5
Its the way you wrote it.. I think you know that.. but whatever.
As I stated before, I was raised in Church and NEVER was I ever taught Halloween was wicked and we had to lock our doors and turn off the lights. That is just stupid
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 11:44:42 GMT -5
I love Halloween. GM, JA, Lone, Tosh, Nanna and everyone. Ya, pagan rituals are the coolest, especialy Christmas. Attending the Burning Man is on my bucket list, that's pagan isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 11:46:26 GMT -5
Aha, someone on here has an inquisitive mind, Joey, you have become the apple of my eye. Read the book and you will fully understand why I use it. What makes you think I haven't read the book? As you know, an inquisitive mind can get you in a lot of trouble but its totally worth it IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 11:46:55 GMT -5
Its the way you wrote it.. I think you know that.. but whatever. As I stated before, I was raised in Church and NEVER was I ever taught Halloween was wicked and we had to lock our doors and turn off the lights. That is just stupid Are Christians okay with Pagan rituals?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 11:50:54 GMT -5
I am not arguing for argument's sake (or am I?!? ) but weren't Atheists chastised a couple of pages back for suggesting that something someone else believes is "stupid"?!?! Your remark just drives the point home that most Christians pick and choose what aspect of their Religion they wish to follow, which IMHO is hypocritical.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 27, 2011 12:01:20 GMT -5
Perhaps we can approach this from a different angle. Does the bible condemn demonology and the occult? Yes or no?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 12:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:06:44 GMT -5
I am not arguing for argument's sake (or am I?!? ) but weren't Atheists chastised a couple of pages back for suggesting that something someone else believes is "stupid"?!?! Your remark just drives the point home that most Christians pick and choose what aspect of their Religion they wish to follow, which IMHO is hypocritical. I never pick and chose. I grew up Trick or Treating. So, Halloween, according to you is now evil? No one had an issue with Halloween until some Christians got uptight and started "new" rules. I already told you I do not follow a Churches set rules. I answer only to God and unless its in the Bible, "do not dress up and go trick or treating for halloween" then I will continue to do so. I am not an uptight person and I don't think its hypercritical to enjoy life.. Chill, really.. jeeeshe
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Oct 27, 2011 12:12:24 GMT -5
HALLOWEEN Halloween is considered by most in the United States as a fun holiday, mostly for children, but it has roots in ancient religions and folklore, including paganism, ancient Roman religions, early Catholic Christianity, Irish folklore, and even British politics! Children and adults alike enjoy this holiday today, with funny costumes, candy, and parties, while some countries observe this time as a remembrance of departed loved ones and religious saints. Here is a short history of this holiday: History Halloween is a holiday with ancient roots that had a much greater meaning than the boisterous, costume-filled holiday that we know today. Around 2,000 years ago, the Celts, who lived in what is now the United Kingdom, Ireland, and northern France, had a festival commemorating the end of the year. Their New Year was November 1, and this festival was called Samhain, pronounced sow-en. The end of their year signaled the end of summer, the end of the harvest season, and the beginning of a long, hard winter that often caused many deaths of animals and people. Weaker livestock were often killed and eaten during this holiday, since most likely, they would not survive the winter anyway. Because of this, and the cruel winter to come, this time of year signified death to the Pagan Celtics. They believed the night before the New Year, that the wall between the living and the dead was open, allowing spirits of the dead, both good and bad, to mingle among the living. Some of these spirits were thought to possess living people, cause trouble, ruin crops, or to search for passage to the afterlife. Read more here . . . www.halloween-history.org/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 12:12:29 GMT -5
I know lots of people who consider themselves spiritual rather than religious, so no biggie there. Actually I was more interested in your take on the "calling other's beliefs stupid" part.
Didn't you and femme opine about the "bad atheists" calling believers "stupid" about 10 pages back or so?
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:13:00 GMT -5
Mean? Because I pointed out that the bible says to avoid demonology and the occult? How on earth is that mean? I didn't write the thing, just drawing attention to the dichotomy. I'm sorry if it makes you feel threatened. Don't shoot the messenger. Let me try it like this.. You wrote: I do hope you good Christians will denounce Halloween and not let your children participate. It is, after all, the work of Satan.That, IMO, was rude. Had I come on this board and said I do hope you bad atheist will denounce Christmas and not participate because after all, its the Day that Christians celebrate the birth of Christ. Now, that is rude and mean as well, and I would expect you to say so. Now, I can see this is just leading into old MSN BS.. and I have no desire to participate. So, I will use the ignore button.... I like positive posts..not much into the negative BS.. Have a nice day everyone!
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:13:54 GMT -5
I know lots of people who consider themselves spiritual rather than religious, so no biggie there. Actually I was more interested in your take on the "calling other's beliefs stupid" part. Didn't you and femme opine about the "bad atheists" calling believers "stupid" about 10 pages back or so? I don';t think so, never called anyone stupid. I called a statement made stupid
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 27, 2011 12:15:50 GMT -5
I know lots of people who consider themselves spiritual rather than religious, so no biggie there. Actually I was more interested in your take on the "calling other's beliefs stupid" part. Didn't you and femme opine about the "bad atheists" calling believers "stupid" about 10 pages back or so? I don';t think so, never called anyone stupid. I called a statement made stupid I never called anyone stupid. Thank You. Why don't you take a happy pill?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 12:16:18 GMT -5
Got it. Well, that's compelety different than what I said.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 27, 2011 12:17:59 GMT -5
Please don't be putting my name in statements where I'm not involved. I actually come here every morning to say good morning to everyone. But all I hear around me is nastiness and people twisting words, as always.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:20:16 GMT -5
Halloween is a holiday with ancient roots that had a much greater meaning than the boisterous, costume-filled holiday that we know today. Around 2,000 years ago, the Celts, who lived in what is now the United Kingdom, Ireland, and northern France, had a festival commemorating the end of the year. Their New Year was November 1, and this festival was called Samhain, pronounced sow-en. The end of their year signaled the end of summer, the end of the harvest season, and the beginning of a long, hard winter that often caused many deaths of animals and people. Weaker livestock were often killed and eaten during this holiday, since most likely, they would not survive the winter anyway. Because of this, and the cruel winter to come, this time of year signified death to the Pagan Celtics. They believed the night before the New Year, that the wall between the living and the dead was open, allowing spirits of the dead, both good and bad, to mingle among the living. Some of these spirits were thought to possess living people, cause trouble, ruin crops, or to search for passage to the afterlife.Wow, thats interesting!
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:21:50 GMT -5
Got it. Well, that's compelety different than what I said. You didn't say that I called someone stupid? Ok
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:23:20 GMT -5
I don't know.. I think everyone needs to chill and stop poking. I never said atheist were bad.. nor stupid.. Everyone has a different view, belief, non belief. What happened to tolerance? Acceptance? Its a big world..
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:25:26 GMT -5
I said the statement was stupid, not anyone.
As I stated before, I was raised in Church and NEVER was I ever taught Halloween was wicked and we had to lock our doors and turn off the lights. That is just stupid
I am not arguing for argument's sake (or am I?!? ) but weren't Atheists chastised a couple of pages back for suggesting that something someone else believes is "stupid"?!?!
Your remark just drives the point home that most Christians pick and choose what aspect of their Religion they wish to follow, which IMHO is hypocritical.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 12:25:34 GMT -5
IIRC, you and <she who wishes not to be spoken about> complained that Atheists were implying believers are stupid and then <she who wishes not to be spoken about> invited you to her God Loving Thread.
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 27, 2011 12:26:51 GMT -5
Its the way you wrote it.. I think you know that.. but whatever. As I stated before, I was raised in Church and NEVER was I ever taught Halloween was wicked and we had to lock our doors and turn off the lights. That is just stupid Are Christians okay with Pagan rituals? Not all of them. As welts said, the Bible speaks against it, even IF the churches do NOT.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 12:27:07 GMT -5
I know lots of people who consider themselves spiritual rather than religious, so no biggie there. Actually I was more interested in your take on the "calling other's beliefs stupid" part. Didn't you and femme opine about the "bad atheists" calling believers "stupid" about 10 pages back or so? Just catching up. Who is this post referring to? All of my remarks on this are directed towards nana. I could be wrong that she was the one having a conversation with <she who wishes not to be spoken about>.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:28:32 GMT -5
Just catching up. Who is this post referring to? All of my remarks on this are directed towards nana. I could be wrong that she was the one having a conversation with <she who wishes not to be spoken about>. LOL.. That wasn't me dear.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:29:18 GMT -5
Are Christians okay with Pagan rituals? Not all of them. As welts said, the Bible speaks against it, even IF the churches do NOT. Where does it say Going trick or treating is bad and evil? I have never seen it.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 27, 2011 12:31:23 GMT -5
Gawd, are you guys always this uptight? ;D No one happy today? Its almost Friday.... Weekend is here.... The weather is nice....
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