gavinsnana
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 26, 2011 10:21:19 GMT -5
BBL.. Gotta get some work done!
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 10:21:24 GMT -5
My nose is so stuffy and I have the worst sinus headache ever!
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 10:21:43 GMT -5
Later Nanna!
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 10:30:52 GMT -5
But a true loving god would not ask to be obeyed. ? Did your parents want you to obey them as children? You don't think there should be rules? Of course. As a child we got grounded, punished, sent to our rooms, spanked or whatever for punishment by our parents. As a child of God, He expects us to choose a path. We have to choose....He also gave us repentence. He is merciful and good. Repent of your sins and He forgives. He is very merciful.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 10:32:29 GMT -5
My nose is so stuffy and I have the worst sinus headache ever! Femm...might want to try this. It works great for me. Clears me up in about 25 minutes. 2 tablespoons of Apple Cider Vinegar (not white) 1/2 teaspoon baking soda (to cut the acid) I don't need it. and a little honey if desired. I don't need it. Google it. Lots of people use this remedy. Hope it will help you. Thanks wolf... I would try it if I had any of those inngredients here but I don't.
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 26, 2011 10:38:35 GMT -5
3 If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through (2 Corinthians 4). God/god is a title, you can make a god of anything. Satan is called the God of this system the ruler of the world. I'll be back later, okay. Agreed! Hello, Spakle. Nice to see you again!
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 26, 2011 10:41:12 GMT -5
I had a female semi-friend, a Jehovah Witness, show up at my house one day, years ago and she was really upset. Let me state, she was not a nut case and very into her church. She said that while at church that day the congregation had been informed that the word GOD referred to the true god and LORD referred to Satan. She said that was the reason both titles would be used in the same sentence or paragraph. That has stuck in my head for years. What was she talking about? Got me. I have always referred to God as Lord. Satan is Lord of Lies.. so dunno. JW can be confusing as well. They, IMO, teach away from the teachings of Christ[/b] Maybe you never really understood what the JW teach? Nothing could be further from the truth...
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 26, 2011 10:45:56 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with her Comprehension skills. To be clear, my issue with Mr. Osteen is MY OPINION and I really am only concerned not so much with him but with the millions of dollars annually that he takes from the pockets of wonderful kind hearted people such as yourself. Mr Osteen is a marketing genius, he's found his niche/cash cow. Now to be fair, I have nothing against motivational speakers in fact I am familiar with quite a few of them that have gotten very wealthy and I don't have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the vehicle of which Mr. Osteen has chosen, rather brilliantly, to use to market himself and get rich. He is using religion to become a very wealthy person. I take issue with people that use the blind faith and open pockets of such wonderful people as yourself. So you see it is only because I care that I see Mr. Osteen as a man taking advantage of a situation that he was dropped into when his father died. You notice his church does not have the obligatory cross and he really doesn't reference the bible that much. The man lives like a rock star for gosh sake, he is not humble nor is he much of a philanthropist, he is however a great motivational speaker and even better marketing machine. well said!
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 11:05:21 GMT -5
Did your parents want you to obey them as children? You don't think there should be rules? Of course. As a child we got grounded, punished, sent to our rooms, spanked or whatever for punishment by our parents. As a child of God, He expects us to choose a path. We have to choose....He also gave us repentence. He is merciful and good. Repent of your sins and He forgives. He is very merciful. We, as parents are not pure and our children are even less so. God is pure, so don't see how this can compare. A loving god, IMHO, would allow his children to learn, he would not force them to learn. Gotta run...hate to leave this awesome debate. Have fun. Will catch up later. He is a very Loving God. But we have to have some kind of suffering for when we do wrong. He sacrificed His own Son for our sins. That, alone shows His undying, unconditional love for us. You have murderers, rapists, child molesters, all kinds of sin. Are you saying there should be no repercussions for that? A sin is a sin is a sin according to the Bible. It says what you do to someone you will get back sevenfold. He does it to teach us. His spirit guides us when we're wrong and helps us to know better next time.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 11:05:46 GMT -5
See you later, Wolf. Hagd.
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Post by Shirina on Oct 26, 2011 11:38:19 GMT -5
A Christian's relationship with God sounds suspiciously like the relationship a battered wife has with her abusive husband.
But wait ... are you saying that God could do nothing else other than send disobedient people to Hell? This is God we're talking about, right? I thought God could do whatever God wanted to do?
First of all, a truly loving God would not have put the apple in the Garden of Eden in the first place, much less have let Satan romp around a place that was supposed to be a paradise. I don't know about you, but my definition of "paradise" does not include the presence of demon lords.
Secondly, who is this "we?" I didn't eat any forbidden fruit. Why should I be punished for what Eve did? So much for the idea of God being fair. Where is my choice?
And ... if we're all sinners, then I guess we don't have the free will not to be sinners.
It couldn't have been all that perfect if Satan was there. Or did Satan's "Scooby-Doo" serpent disguise actually fool God?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 12:29:52 GMT -5
But a true loving god would not ask to be obeyed. ? Did your parents want you to obey them as children? You don't think there should be rules? Of course. As a child we got grounded, punished, sent to our rooms, spanked or whatever for punishment by our parents. As a child of God, He expects us to choose a path. We have to choose....He also gave us repentence. He is merciful and good. Repent of your sins and He forgives. He is very merciful. If he forgives all sins why is there a "hell". How can Christians possibly project a deity of such cruelty and vindictiveness that he would create hell an everlasting torture upon his creatures? A god who would do that is "more nearly like Satan." Perhaps everlasting punishment belongs more to pagan Greek notions than the bible? Did the bible"originally" mention a place of eternal damnation? No, if you mean "originally" as in the Old Testament. Yes, if you mean some versions of the New Testament.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 12:30:58 GMT -5
Hello JA.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 12:32:11 GMT -5
Hello ff.
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gavinsnana
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 26, 2011 12:37:18 GMT -5
God can only forgive when we confess our sins and ask for forgiveness.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 12:38:16 GMT -5
God can only forgive when we confess our sins and ask for forgiveness. So people who sin and ont' ask for forgiveness, hell is the place they go?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 12:43:23 GMT -5
God can only forgive when we confess our sins and ask for forgiveness. So people who sin and ont' ask for forgiveness, hell is the place they go? Well we can't say who's going to heaven or hell. We can only say that God says repent of your sins. That's all I know.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 12:49:00 GMT -5
So people who sin and ont' ask for forgiveness, hell is the place they go? Well we can't say who's going to heaven or hell. We can only say that God says repent of your sins. That's all I know. So if you are not a religious person and you do not repent your sins the result would be going to hell?
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gavinsnana
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 26, 2011 12:51:44 GMT -5
God can only forgive when we confess our sins and ask for forgiveness. So people who sin and ont' ask for forgiveness, hell is the place they go? Dunno, I'm not God.. and don't judge anyone. ALl I know according to the Bible, the wages of sin is death.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 26, 2011 12:53:40 GMT -5
Well we can't say who's going to heaven or hell. We can only say that God says repent of your sins. That's all I know. So if you are not a religious person and you do not repent your sins the result would be going to hell? According to the Bible, in order to have eternal life, you must beleive upon Him. Meaning God. and the only way to God is thru Jesus, His Son. I would rather believe and live eternally than not, IMO. Free will/free choice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 12:53:51 GMT -5
So people who sin and ont' ask for forgiveness, hell is the place they go? Dunno, I'm not God.. and don't judge anyone. ALl I know according to the Bible, the wages of sin is death. The wages of sin is death. I see, thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 13:04:16 GMT -5
So people who sin and ont' ask for forgiveness, hell is the place they go? Dunno, I'm not God.. and don't judge anyone. ALl I know according to the Bible, the wages of sin is death. That's just what I was about to say.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 13:04:55 GMT -5
You guys, I need help picking an avatar...Can you tell? I keep changing them. I'm too picky.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 13:14:51 GMT -5
I think I found a winner! ;D
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 13:19:16 GMT -5
I think I found a winner! ;D Good one. Thanks...
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 13:19:53 GMT -5
Kind of matches my wild personality.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 26, 2011 13:40:39 GMT -5
Thanks wolf... I would try it if I had any of those inngredients here but I don't. Might want to get some and try it. I've even stopped stomach aches with it. I will have to remember this and try it too. I know when I have congestion/cold, sometimes I use honey/wiskey/lemon. tastes kind yuk, but it works!
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 26, 2011 13:42:41 GMT -5
Thanks wolf... I would try it if I had any of those inngredients here but I don't. Might want to get some and try it. I've even stopped stomach aches with it. I will have to remember this and try it too. I know when I have congestion/cold, sometimes I use honey/wiskey/lemon. tastes kind yuk, but it works!
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 26, 2011 13:43:33 GMT -5
You guys, I need help picking an avatar...Can you tell? I keep changing them. I'm too picky. Femme,. why do you keep changing? I liked the Peace sign!
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 26, 2011 13:45:29 GMT -5
Might want to get some and try it. I've even stopped stomach aches with it. I will have to remember this and try it too. I know when I have congestion/cold, sometimes I use honey/wiskey/lemon. tastes kind yuk, but it works! The whiskey sounds good.
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