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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 12:55:47 GMT -5
Religion - History class without the facts.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 12, 2011 12:56:29 GMT -5
I like a challenge, but you may be a tough nut to crack. mmmm, hold on, there may be some hope. So you read all of my posts over the whole thread did you now ? That is a lot of drinking for one not so thirsty, you protest too much methinks. The thot plickens. Happy days.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 12, 2011 13:02:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:02:47 GMT -5
lol weltsch
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:03:48 GMT -5
Ewww.. I don't like plick thot, got any cream?
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Post by Tosh on Oct 12, 2011 13:04:31 GMT -5
I have seen the reference to Kool Aid all over the American boards, will somebody please explain to a lowly Scotsman the significance of this remark.
I assume it is not a compliment ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:05:48 GMT -5
Drinking the Kool-Aid" refers to the 1978 Jonestown Massacre; the phrase suggests that one has mindlessly adopted the dogma of a group or leader without fully understanding the ramifications or implications: at Jonestown, Jim Jones' followers followed him to the end: after visiting Congressman Leo Ryan was shot at the airstrip, all the Peoples Temple members drank from a metal vat containing a mixture of "Kool Aid" (actually Flavor Aid), Cyanide, and prescription drugs Valium, Phenergan, and chloral hydrate. Present-day descriptions of the event often refer to the beverage not as Kool-Aid but as Flavor Aid,[10] a less-expensive product reportedly found at the site.[11] Kraft Foods, the maker of Kool-Aid, has stated the same.[12][13] Implied by this accounting of events is that the reference to the Kool-Aid brand owes exclusively to its being better-known among Americans. Others are less categorical.[10] Both brands are known to have been among the commune's supplies: Film footage shot inside the compound prior to the events of November shows Jones opening a large chest in which boxes of both Flavor Aid and Kool-Aid are visible.[14] Criminal investigators testifying at the Jonestown inquest spoke of finding packets of "cool aid" (sic), and eyewitnesses to the incident are also recorded as speaking of "cool aid" or "Cool Aid."[15] However, it is unclear whether they intended to refer to the actual Kool-Aid–brand drink or were using the name in a generic sense that might refer to any powdered flavored beverage.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 12, 2011 13:15:48 GMT -5
Joey, Aha, I should have guessed, thanks, the Americans can be quite clever on rare occasions. I like it. I don't think I have ever been described as nice before, I must be mellowing with age ..... ....or ff has dementia.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:22:16 GMT -5
Joey, Aha, I should have guessed, thanks, the Americans can be quite clever on rare occasions. I like it. I don't think I have ever been described as nice before, I must be mellowing with age ..... ....or ff has dementia. pssst...I'me no americano...eh
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Post by Tosh on Oct 12, 2011 13:26:50 GMT -5
You may have mentioned this before.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 12, 2011 13:28:26 GMT -5
pssst...I'me no americano...eh ----------------------- Seriously? Lol! Do you hail from the Land of the Noble Beaver and double-doubles?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 12, 2011 13:32:18 GMT -5
56 pages for Tosh to deny the existence of God. I think we get the point. Hey Fritz, I have a God thread I'd like to invite you to if you want to visit. Just letting you know.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 12, 2011 13:36:38 GMT -5
Thanks. But, i don't believe your thread exists. You can't prove that it does. It may just be in your imagination. Lmao! Well according to Tosh, if you can see it, you can believe it. It's on here. ;D
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Post by Shirina on Oct 12, 2011 13:36:40 GMT -5
Today I woke up to find a platypus staring at me through the wall. I blinked my nose and he blinked back, doffed his green and white derby, then flew away on angel wings made from cotton candy. How boring, I thought to myself. Why can't I see something more unusual, like a magenta cheetah with stars instead of spots playing "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" on the harpsichord? Instead, it's always the same old platypus in the green and white derby.
So I grabbed my piano and put it on my head before going outside into the violet sunlight hoping to see a magenta cheetah. Over there was a tree standing on its leaves whistling the Star Spangled Banner backwards, and there across the street was a group of five aliens from Zeta Reticuli drinking paint thinner with their ears ... nothing unusual so far. Just the same hum drum stuff.
About an hour later, the sun went nova, so I had to postpone my search, but at least the explosion was pretty. When it began to rain Rubics Cubes and My Little Ponies, I pulled out my battleship and placed it over my head for protection. When the storm abated, I resumed my search for the ever elusive magenta cheetah.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:36:53 GMT -5
56 pages for Tosh to deny the existence of God. I think we get the point. No, apparently you don't.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 12, 2011 13:37:42 GMT -5
Great story Shirina!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:38:26 GMT -5
pssst...I'me no americano...eh ----------------------- Seriously? Lol! Do you hail from the Land of the Noble Beaver and double-doubles? tall double double english toffee coffee, maybe some bits too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:39:09 GMT -5
56 pages for Tosh to deny the existence of God. I think we get the point. Hey Fritz, I have a God thread I'd like to invite you to if you want to visit. Just letting you know. Dear Fritz, remember...don't drink the koolaid.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 12, 2011 13:40:36 GMT -5
Snicks, I see you are beginning to grasp the whole concept of existence exists, I am impressed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:47:34 GMT -5
I see how it works now.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 12, 2011 13:49:56 GMT -5
tall double double english toffee coffee, maybe some bits too. ------------------------- Well, that explains a great deal! It's the Rest of the World, against those zany Americans and their quaint ideas.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 12, 2011 13:54:13 GMT -5
Snicks ! Snicks ! Its me, Tosh !
I am behind the burning bush.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 13:57:52 GMT -5
tall double double english toffee coffee, maybe some bits too. ------------------------- Well, that explains a great deal! It's the Rest of the World, against those zany Americans and their quaint ideas. hmmm...that is interesting now isn't it. ;D
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Post by Cj on Oct 12, 2011 13:58:17 GMT -5
No direct offense FF, this is just an example of what always seems to happen from all sides. I find when people think they can convert or change someone, it just isn't going to work. Usually the conversation devolves and someone mentions kool aid. lol
If everyone agrees that no one can or will be convinced to change their stance, THEN and only then will the discussion take on a real positive debate of theories. Personally, I'm looking for that level of conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 14:00:09 GMT -5
No direct offense FF, this is just an example of what always seems to happen from all sides. I find when people think they can convert or change someone, it just isn't going to work. Usually the conversation devolves and someone mentions kool aid. lol If everyone agrees that no one can or will be convinced to change their stance, THEN and only then will the discussion take on a real positive debate of theories. Personally, I'm looking for that level of conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 14:03:37 GMT -5
I foresee terrible trouble on the horizon. A believer and non believer thread side by side, cheek by jowl, no wait, the “Does Good Exist” tribe is on top of the “God Loving People”, will there be fire and brimstone, friction, panty raids, will jock straps be flung, sneak attacks, vandalism, nasty graffiti, will the bird be flipped, will the four horsemen of the apocalypse make an appearance. Stay tuned…
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 14:04:30 GMT -5
I recently saw a documentary on the Stone of Destiny as well as the Muslims Black Stone. Space stones that need some scientific investigation me thinks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 14:05:26 GMT -5
I foresee terrible trouble on the horizon. A believer and non believer thread side by side, cheek by jowl, no wait, the “Does Good Exist” tribe is on top of the “God Loving People”, will there be fire and brimstone, friction, panty raids, will jock straps be flung, sneak attacks, vandalism, nasty graffiti, will the bird be flipped, will the four horsemen of the apocalypse make an appearance. Stay tuned… Robert, I'm all about the love dude.
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Post by Shirina on Oct 12, 2011 14:10:45 GMT -5
Rarely have I found that level of conversation between believers and non-believers. As I've said in one of numerous unremarked posts I've written on this thread, religion is non-negotiable even in discussion. They really don't want to discuss the merits of their faith, for doing so would require them to discuss the merits of their core being. It is what I have always found dangerous about religion; a person often cannot extricate themselves from it even temporarily. Thus challenging religious belief is the same thing as challenging them personally. Thus discussions like this often result in believers lashing out or drowning out atheists with heaps of "praise the lords" and other platitudes.
Granted, there are a few nasty atheists, some of whom I have had the misfortune of meeting, and they are an embarrassment to the atheist belief system. It would appear, however, that many see no value in having a discussion simply for the sake of having it. Instead it comes down to needing to change a person's mind, and if that cannot be done, it's back to the usual banality of flirting and talking about food and weather reports.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 14:14:36 GMT -5
Rarely have I found that level of conversation between believers and non-believers. As I've said in one of numerous unremarked posts I've written on this thread, religion is non-negotiable even in discussion. They really don't want to discuss the merits of their faith, for doing so would require them to discuss the merits of their core being. It is what I have always found dangerous about religion; a person often cannot extricate themselves from it even temporarily. Thus challenging religious belief is the same thing as challenging them personally. Thus discussions like this often result in believers lashing out or drowning out atheists with heaps of "praise the lords" and other platitudes. Granted, there are a few nasty atheists, some of whom I have had the misfortune of meeting, and they are an embarrassment to the atheist belief system. It would appear, however, that many see no value in having a discussion simply for the sake of having it. Instead it comes down to needing to change a person's mind, and if that cannot be done, it's back to the usual banality of flirting and talking about food and weather reports. The shallow end of the pool eventually gets full, doesnt it?
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