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Holly Smith
Message #187 - 01/12/08 01:39 AM

For those of you who planned your pregnancy, how did you know that you and your DH were ready to be parents?

1. We quit sleeping in on the weekends, and woke up at the same time every day, whether or not we set an alarm.
2. We became more consistent in our habits
3. We kept the house cleaner more often, not just because company was coming over.
4. We really, really wanted children, and nothing could convince us otherwise.

I had some goals we needed to accomplish first, but those were specific to us.  This is how we "knew."

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #188 - 01/13/08 10:06 PM



OK, I have a weird question - how soon can you test & have it be accurate?  I am thinking that I might be pregnant, but I am not sure.  I took one test that said no, and one that I could not tell if it was a yes or no.  Its been 4 weeks, but I dont want to go too crazy buying lots of tests either (those things can be expensive!).

Hmmm, just one more thing for me to worry about right now.....

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Sarahsmiling
Message #189 - 01/14/08 05:07 AM

Sam---it usually doesn't take too long, a couple of weeks.   I would just hold off for a week and then test in the AM---the hormone is higher in the morning I believe---and then see.  My sure fire way to tell is that my brea$t$ got tender.  And I have been pregnant 5 times!!  (3 kids and 2 MCs)   Or if you just can't stand to wait, ask your Dr to do a bloodtest.  It may save you a lot of stress. 

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Lakshmi_ff
Message #190 - 01/14/08 05:43 AM

Mittenkitten & Holly Smith, thanks for sharing! My husband and I want to have two children but I don't think we'll be done before I'm 35. I'm 33 now and we're going to start trying in April. I can decide how much time to wait before having a second after my first. Ideally I'd like 4 years so they wouldn't be in college at the same time but given my age I'm not sure how smart that is. DH laughs because I'm thinking of our second when we don't have a first!

Sam, I'm with Sarah wait another week before taking another test.

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oped
Message #191 - 01/14/08 05:55 AM

 Ideally I'd like 4 years so they wouldn't be in college at the same time

Is this for financial reasons? because people frequently get more financial aid if they have more than one child in college at the same time...

See how easy the first one happens, but i would be nervous to wait until my late 30s. While its not fullproof by any means you may want to talk to your mother about her fertility/ when she started menopause/etc...

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Sarahsmiling
Message #192 - 01/14/08 07:00 AM



Lakshmi   I have two DDs that are 3 years and 8 months apart and they bicker all the time!!!!     I think it is maybe better to have kids kind of close together  (no one flame me please--mine are 11, 7 and 2).  My kids don't play together as much, they are argue because one wants to be the boss, they just don't have as much in common.  I also have a lot of different problems to deal with at the same time---one has had her first period, first crush and started braces this year.  The other one is getting settled into first grade, learning to really read and make friends.  The little guy is not quite two so I have diapers, nursing, ear infections, and two year old attitude. 

When it is time, I would think about the 18 years before college!!  Good Luck!!

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Lakshmi_ff
Message #193 - 01/14/08 05:59 PM



Oped, you're right on. My reason was financial. My DH and I make about $140,000 a year so I'm not sure how much/if we'd qualify for financial aid so I thought having our children 4 years apart would help. But it does make me nervous to wait until my late 30's. My mom's fertility was good and she had children in her late 30's but I hate to bank on that and then be disappointed/frustrated.

 

Sarah, my alternative to waiting 4 years is having them about 18 months to 2 years apart which sounds tough but fun.

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dakota4600
Message #194 - 01/14/08 06:28 PM



Lakshmi_ff

My DH & I decided to start trying 1 year after getting married. We had discussed the kids issue prior to the wedding and agreed that if our marriage was not "rocky" at one year we would start trying because of our ages (me 34 him 31 when we got married). Luckily our marriage has gotten better with time and we started trying as soon as we finished hiking the Grand Canyon for our 1 year anniversary.  We were fortunate we got PG within 2 months, I have a friend that got married in 03 and started trying in early 04 and is having her first in 3 weeks after IVF treatments.  I'm 35 and will give birth about 2 weeks before my 36th birthday.   I was high risk to start out, but after the level 2 u/s at 18 weeks they removed that label.   Though I've already told DH that if we decided to try for one more it will have to be soon as I don't want to do this at 38.  So we may end up with Irish twins.  I've had an "easy" pregnancy so far, but it does take a toll on the body.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #195 - 01/14/08 07:14 PM

I'm having a girl!  At least according to the last ultrasound.    I'm going to have them doublecheck at the next ultrasound though.  I'm considered high risk, at age 37, so I've had 4 ultrasounds so far with at least 1 more coming - and my due date is 05/15/08!  My ob/gyn says that my baby is looking and sounding great so far, but he considers everyone over the age of 35 to be high risk.  And the pregnancy is going smoothly too, except for a miserable acid reflux problem. 

We're finally starting to clean out what will be the baby's room.  Thank God for the cover on the pool table, because it's going to be full of the Christmas stuff until we get the shelving moved and set up in the basement.  DH is protective of the felt on the pool table.  lol. 

Beth

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Lakshmi_ff
Message #196 - 01/14/08 07:16 PM



Dakota, Congratulations on your pregnancy! How exciting 2 weeks to go! Do you know what you two are having? Part of my motivation to wait originally was to make sure we could weather the first few years of marriage. Everyone warned me how tough the first few years are. I'm glad we waited and I hope we don't have trouble getting pregnant.  That's for sharing!

BTW, what are Irish twins? 

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MittenKitten
Message #197 - 01/14/08 07:24 PM



Lakshmii:  I believe Irish Twins are when you have kids within a year of each other.  So not really twins but REALLY close. 

I had a friend who did that since her DH was quite a bit older then she is and they had their first when she was over 35 and may have been closer to 37 or 38.  So her kids are 11 months apart.  She is happy with it.  I also have a friend who didn't quite make the Irish Twins part but the second was a surprise and is 14 months from the first and she was also happy.  Then at least you go through the diaper phase more quickly.  The rate I am going by the time I am done with diapers we will have been dealing with them for 7-8 years .  Goodness I never thought of that one before.

Beth congrats on the girl, have you thought of any names?  I HATE coming up withe names.  Plus the family is in an uproar since even after we do come up with a name we will not tell anyone.  So we are just telling them we are naming her Tabitha Kathleen, short for Tabby Kat.  (My mom has people at work who know me convinced this is the actual name!)

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Lakshmi_ff
Message #198 - 01/14/08 07:28 PM



Congratulations Beth! Wasn't feeling baby fever before but I'm starting to!

 

Mittenkitten, you're really helping me warm up to the idea of irish twins! But my body may not like me after that or I may not like it!

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boos_mom
Message #199 - 01/14/08 07:55 PM



To be honest, I could not even THINK about having a second baby until the first one turned 2 years old.  I am in awe of women who have babies so close together.  My body and mind were exhausted with just the one, and emotionally, I was worried because the first pregnancy was so uncomfortable and I felt pretty awful for nearly 5 months.  I could not go through a second one like that with a small infant/toddler to care for at the same time.  Yes, some say just get it over with, but I wanted to enjoy my first and not miss out on some of that baby time because I was busy with/gestating another one. 

It would've been ideal to have gotten pregnant right away when we started trying again and have them be less than 3 years apart.  But, it didn't happen as planned, of course.  I did want to keep the children within 4 years of age because after that it is harder since they'll rarely be into the same things at the same time.  Pretty much, plans don't always go through, especially when kids are involved, and your plans/feelings may change once you have your first.  Good luck!

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #200 - 01/14/08 08:27 PM

Nope, we haven't started seriously talking about names, mitten.  Just tossing them out there and sometimes giggling over them - like Germaine Viola (pronounced in my family like the instrument).  She was one of my great grandmothers.  Sorry, Dad, no one is naming their daughter after her!  We've got a baby name book, we just haven't started looking at it yet.  

Although I did feel movement the other day when I said Kelly to DH.  lol.  

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dakota4600
Message #201 - 01/14/08 08:36 PM



We are having a boy.  But I'm not due in 2 weeks.  I'm due in May.  So I've got a ways to go yet, but it is very exciting.  We haven't even started on the name game as my brother and a good friend are due before us, so we are waiting until they decided on names to start tossing them around.  We'll start that about Valentine's Day.

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MittenKitten
Message #202 - 01/14/08 08:42 PM

Good luck on the name finding.  I never would have guessed it was so HARD to come up with a name but we had a hard time with both our boys and Tabby Kat is proving to be just as difficult to name.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #203 - 01/14/08 09:54 PM

One of my cousins has her names picked out right after she found out she was pregnant.  She was shocked when DH and I admitted at Christmas that we didn't have names picked out and weren't really thinking about them, other than the names we knew were NOT going to use.  To each their own!

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Lakshmi_ff
Message #204 - 01/14/08 10:02 PM



Boos_mom, you've got a point. My husband keeps telling me to focus on one at a time and that is probably the best advice to follow.

 

Actually, we've been playing with names for years (since before we got married) so I've kept a list of them and have had to take names off after relatives or friends have had children (our list has dwindled significantly in the past two years).   

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Sarahsmiling
Message #205 - 01/14/08 10:11 PM



We had a boy and girl name for our first and then my sis took our boy name!!  (We had a DD--she said I wasn't using it).  When we were PG with our boy, we didn't have a name.  Well, two weeks before he was due, my water broke, my DH was 8 hours away by car and as he flew in the door of the hospital room (after I drove myself there)  he said "how about Tyler?"!!   We hadn't agreed on any other names and I wasn't fighting about it  It fits him though! 

One piece of advice---don't tell a lot of people because people will comment on your choice and then you have to defend yourself.

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dakota4600
Message #206 - 01/14/08 10:39 PM

I agree Sarah.  No one will hear our "real" list of choices until after the baby is here.  (However for anyone who asks our short list is Wenchaslaus, Charvis and Steve, names we would not use for various reasons) However my brother & SIL just sent out a name our baby poll from some website.  They were able to list the top names, which one liked it and put comments in.  The top ones so far are Nathanial, Alexander, Spencer and Sebastian.

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MittenKitten
Message #207 - 01/18/08 12:07 AM



Still looking for names.  Have been through one website and working on another.  I have a book I am looking at but am having a hard time.  DF hasn't even started looking at the names. I know we have awhile but I want one picked out.  So far there are only a few I like. 

So she is still Tabby Kat for now.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #208 - 01/18/08 03:12 PM



My friend just had her first boy.  She had 2 girls before that & she said it was easy to pick out girl names.  Girl names can be cute their whole lives, but not too many grown men want to be called "Timmy" - lol.  She finally picked a name 2 weeks before she had him! 

Side note - no baby yet for Sam.  Whew!!

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cran.vodka
Message #209 - 01/18/08 03:35 PM

wisconsin beth:  CONGRATULATIONS!  is this your first baby?  i have a couple of friends who are in their early to mid-thirties and having problems conceiving.  i'm hoping they can conceive since they have been trying and wanting a baby for a little over two years...at times it seems discouraging but when i hear about women over 35 having a baby it gives me hope again.

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dakota4600
Message #210 - 01/18/08 03:36 PM

Sam- My brother said the same thing, though they are waiting to meet the baby to pick the name.  Girls are much easier to pick out names for.  He thinks it is because guys names have more nicknames associated with them and while the formal name is fine, the nicknames aren't. (Henry=Hank, James=Jimmy, Robert=Dick were the ones that they eliminated because they didn't like the nicknames).  Though when DH & I were talking about this we came up with a boys name we both like, but my brother is considering something very similar, so it may not be available.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #211 - 01/18/08 04:01 PM

Hi Cran.vodka, yep, this is our first and we weren't trying.  I'm 37 and DH is 38.    DH was supposed to take 2008 off from work and pound out a bunch of credits for his computer programming degree while we lived on my salary.  So much for that plan!  But everything is going really well so far, except for an acid reflux problem I've been having for a while.  All the tests are coming back negative for any of the bad stuff, at least so far.  I go on lots of ultrasounds, but my ob/gyn sends everyone over the age of 35 on lots of them.  So warn your friends that they will likely be going on more appointments.  I get a ton of paid sick leave as I've worked for the same employer for 15 years, so for me it's not a problem.  But for some women, sick leave and multiple appointments can be a problem.   

We, ok, I started to call the baby The Tadpole, because I needed to call her something in the early days.  And DH picked it up.  DH felt her kicking last night!  An exciting first for him.

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boos_mom
Message #212 - 01/18/08 09:08 PM



Sam814 - glad to hear!

Naming a child is the hardest thing to do!  I didn't realize how hard it is until we had to do it.  We had trouble picking names that go with our surname.  So, many names that I liked did not sound good with the last name.  So, our search took months.  I did think we came up with girl names easier than boy names.  We get to go through it again, and I don't think I want to use any of the names that were possibilities, so I have to check out some baby name books at the library.  We might get to find out in a few weeks at the next ultrasound, IF baby cooperates....  That'll help so we can focus the search (although it's always good to have a back up for the opposite sex, just in case!). 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #213 - 01/18/08 09:15 PM

Yeah, I don't quite trust the ultrasound tech and doc. who said we're having a girl!  So we've been prefacing telling people with "the ultrasound tech and the doctor both think it's a girl"  lol.  Next ultrasound is next week, so I'll ask them to doublecheck!  

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Sarahsmiling
Message #214 - 01/19/08 06:31 AM



Good to hear Sam!!  Our first one was a surprise and that kind of started our whole expensive debt mountain.  Baby, wedding, honeymoon, bigger car, daycare, another baby...... But I am trying to make a molehill out of that mountain

I had babies at 27, 31 and 36(almost 37).   Definitely more appts for the last one, but the "advanced maternal age" label bugged me more than anything

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Sarahsmiling
Message #215 - 01/19/08 06:47 AM

Oh, to all who are picking names...just a friendly word of advice...take it or leave it.    Please try for names that are of a traditional spelling for your child's sake.  My DDs have friends that are forever being asked how to pronounce their names...common name--uncommon spelling of it.  The parents try to make it original but it just causes difficulties later on. Coming from someone who had to spell and pronounce her unusual last name at least once a day for 16 years---they will thank you for it!  I'm off my soapbox.  May the flaming begin!!

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #216 - 01/19/08 07:05 AM



Sarah - there was an article I saw on a parent's page awhile back that asked people to stick to more traditional names because unfortunately ethnic names can really disadvantage the child later on in life when he/she is applying for jobs.  It should not, but unfortunately some people are still biased like that. 

 

WHEEEEEW MOMMMA you should have seen the flames on that one!!!!!!!!

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #217 - 01/20/08 07:14 PM

Well guys, apparently I was pregnant.  The reason the tests showed negative is because I was mis-carrying   I had to spend last night in the ER.  Not only am I emotionally up & down, I get to pay ER bills now.  BLAH!

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beej67
Message #218 - 01/20/08 07:33 PM

Sam, I'm sorry to hear what you've gone through.  Hope you are ok physically.  From what I hear, the emotional side can take time, regardless of whether the pregnancy was planned or not.  Take care of yourself.

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EconStudent07
Message #219 - 01/20/08 07:46 PM

Well guys, apparently I was pregnant.  The reason the tests showed negative is because I was mis-carrying   I had to spend last night in the ER.  Not only am I emotionally up & down, I get to pay ER bills now.  BLAH!

I'm so sorry! This happened to me in July, so I kinda know what you're going through. I hope you're doing okay.

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Holly Smith
Message #220 - 01/20/08 09:21 PM

I don't know.  The names were pretty easy for us to pick out.  We're happy with our choice in Elizabeth Isis for a girl.  I know that people have told us to be careful, that she might turn out to be a boy, but it's not a big deal either way.  Nothing but clothes will be gender-specific.

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livingalmostlarge
Message #221 - 01/21/08 02:02 AM



Thoughts and prayers with you Sam.

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MittenKitten
Message #222 - 01/21/08 03:45 AM

Sam:  So sorry . Take care of yourself. 

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boos_mom
Message #223 - 01/21/08 07:39 AM

Sam, I'm very sorry.  We're here for you if you need us.  Take care of yourself!

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ladyinbrightred
Message #224 - 01/22/08 04:38 PM

Sam, I am so sorry you had to go through that.

Ladies, I am wondering how much you tried to save up before TTC.  I'm thinking I'd need at least 2 months' salary, since I'd be taking unpaid leave, plus $2k for after-insurance delivery costs.  I know I'll need to come up with a plan for child care and that the baby will cost alot after that in terms of diapers, food, etc, but also I don't want my goal to be so high that I wait too long and risk complications (I'm hoping to start TTC when I'm 32). And other factors will change before then. I don't know where I'll be living or what I'll be making at work at the time. I want to get started though! DH and I have a decent ER rolling which we just started this year, but I'd want this savings to be separate.

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dakota4600
Message #225 - 01/22/08 05:34 PM



We saved nothing before trying to TTC, I conceived at 35.  To put your mind at ease a little, 5 of us that went to HS together have had or will have children at 35 or 36 and there have been no complications.  We just all got lots of early sonograms to determine risk of birth defects, luckily we all ended up being low risk.

I'm shooting for a 7K baby fund and I'm due in May.  Right now I'm at about 3K, but we just started saving last month.  We should be ok, we paid off our 2nd mortgage in November, so that plus the excess is going to the baby fund.  So far we've spent $650 on Furniture, though we don't start paying on it until July and then have until Dec 2009 to pay it off (I don't think I'm taking that out of baby fund since $40 a month will pay it off on time).  I owe the Dr's office $450 here in the next month or so for my prenatal & delivery care.  I have no idea what the hospital bill will be, I'm planning on about $1k in bills there with my deductible and my 10%, plus baby expenses.  I am taking 2 months off, but will be paid for basically 4 weeks with PTO time. Then I have STD insurance at about $1K a month.  I would definitely look into short term and long term disability before you get PG or they will not cover the pregnancy.  I have AFLAC and they exclude pregnancy for the 1st 10 months the policy is in force. (I'm due on the 1 year anniversary of my policy.)   I didn't get the long term in place before hand and they have excluded this pregnancy, but will cover subsequent ones.

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GusitaRenker
Message #226 - 01/30/08 01:41 AM



Hi everyone,

If you could choose, would you have your first child before you really start your career (ie. while going part-time to school), soon after starting your career (ie.within a year or so), or after getting a firm start in your career (ie. after 3 years or so)?  What would be the pros and cons to each time frame?

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Ignorance is bliss...
Message #227 - 01/30/08 05:59 AM

Dh and I want to start trying in Sept.  That is if my conditions are met- pay off my cc debt which I should be able to do and we have two months expenses saved off- DH is a firefighter so he will be able to save up sick time and take most of a month off and then he only works 8 days a month and I am going to work 4 days a week.  My job is 10 min from my house (from driveway to desk).  I have been working out lately and watching what I eat.  I weigh about 117 pounds and want to get down to 105 before I get preggo (I am 4'11''- so I will look like a fat pumpkin when I get pregnant).  Then gain about 20 pounds just like my mommy did.  I am nervous because handsome DH is very focused on working out- he has a great body (firefighter calendar style) and I am nervous he won't be attracted to my body after the pregnancy- did anyone else worry about this?

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boos_mom
Message #228 - 02/10/08 06:29 AM



We went to our 4 month ultrasound this week and found out baby is a boy!  We both really thought baby would be a girl, so that was a total surprise!  I told my sister to stop giving away her hand-me-downs to others since I'm going to need it now . 

Then gain about 20 pounds just like my mommy did.  I am nervous because handsome DH is very focused on working out- he has a great body (firefighter calendar style) and I am nervous he won't be attracted to my body after the pregnancy- did anyone else worry about this?

Ignorance -- the range of recommended weight gain is 25-35 lbs.  So, "aiming" to gain only 20 lbs. is not necessarily going to be something your doctor might recommend.  Being so conscious of your weight gain during pregnancy where you are almost dieting is truly not healthy for you or the baby.  Please talk to your husband about your concerns before getting pregnant.  My husband, and many men, find the pregnant body very sexy.  Of course, the pregnant woman herself may not feel sexy, but that's a different story.  If you are able to establish a healthy eating and exercise routine (once your dr. clears you) post-partum, there is no reason why you cannot get back to your pre-pregnancy weight.  Warning: you may get back to the same weight, but your body may never look the same anyway.  And, those super flat, tight abs you see on celebrities are NOT something you should expect to have within even 12 months after giving birth.  I dropped all of the 35 lbs. I had gained in about 6 weeks (sleep deprivation, too tired to really eat, and breast-feeding might do that for you), but my body just felt stretched out for months.  That saggy skin bugged me too!  My tummy was just starting to look almost like it used to after about 3 years.  And frankly, once the baby came, you'll have so many adjustments to make, being sexy is the least of the problems.  Trying to just find some time together alone will be a bigger challenge.   

Ladyinbrightred -- I think our savings goal was to save enough for my unpaid time off and also to be able to comfortably live within the daycare budget.  So, to start saving for the leave, we instituted the daycare budget and just applied that savings toward my leave.  And then contintinued to try and save that even after we met that goal for other baby-related stuff, equipment, furniture, etc.

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MittenKitten
Message #229 - 02/10/08 07:18 AM



Congrats boos mom!  Makes it all seem more real doesn't it?  When is your due date?  I have 10 weeks left and it seems like FOREVER!  Then again it is going to come quicker then I am ready for also LOL. 

So I can't remember if I posted here or not in regards to DS#1 who is 4 1/2 being bullied at preschool.  Anyways we enrolled him in Karate and he LOVES it.  I am not sure if the school got the child with the issues under control or what but since DS will probably be one of the youngest and smallest for a long time figured it would help him to have the skills and confidence Karate can give him. 

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boos_mom
Message #230 - 02/12/08 12:20 AM



Thanks mitten!  We're due in mid-July, but baby probably will come a little early, again.  If baby is going to be around the same size as the first, then yes, come early!  Good to hear that DS is enjoying karate and hopefully the bullying has stopped regardless.

We still have to get the baby's room ready, so I'm glad we have several more months to go.  I have to get rid of the relative who's been staying with us.  It was nice to have the extra money for contributing to the household expenses, but it will be really nice to get back that bedroom and hopefully organize and de-clutter before baby arrives. 

I'm a bit anxious about going back to caring for an infant again and those first few months with a newborn (euphoric but unbelievably hard).  I am hoping that kid #1 will be very helpful and loving and not have a fit when we bring baby home.  She got a baby doll and diaper bag over the holidays and played nicely for a few weeks.  But, it's lost its charm.  We'll talk about our baby and she kisses my tummy, but still....  Still haven't gotten to borrow any children's books to help prepare her.  I think I'll try and reserve some today.

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MittenKitten
Message #231 - 02/12/08 07:01 AM



Boos mom:  How old is DD again?  DS comes up and pats my tummy none too gently and says "Hello, is anybody in there"  Very cute and silly.  Hopefully she will feel important being the "big sister" and helping mom.  If you can buy her a gift and give it to her from the baby, in the hospital if possible.  May help her perspective of the baby being a gift and not an intruder. 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #232 - 02/12/08 03:37 PM

We cleaned out the baby's room, it's just got my clothes in it still.  My sister and Mom came to help me sort out the room and take stuff to Goodwill/trash.  So I need to get my stuff out and scrub the walls/ceiling, then have DH paint it and we can start moving the baby furniture in there.  I'll be registering soon, so we get this going.  My shower will be March 15, because it works best for my sisters.  

I talked to my boss, after my FMLA is up, I'll be going back to work fulltime.  BUT he approved me working 2 days from home.  So I'm trying to convince my Mom to watch the baby 3 days a week for the first 2 years or so, except when DH is home from school.  He's working part time and in school part time.  Mom's not sure she wants to do it, but she also doesn't want any of her grandchildren in day care.  She also knows that if she truly doesn't want my child in daycare, she's going to have to be the one to do it.  For the previous grandchildren, it just worked out that way - 1 MIL was a SAHM, 1 MIL was retired and my other sister and her DH worked interesting schedules to keep their kids out of daycare.  But I'm trying hard not to pressure her about it.  It's her choice and I know now that she's retired she's got plans and I don't want to disrupt her and Dad's life.  

So things are moving along for us.  

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Holly Smith
Message #233 - 02/12/08 06:33 PM

Is anyone spending way more than they thought they would?  My crib ended up costing $350, and I really wasn't all that picky.  The one at Ikea I had planned to buy was so low that the highest point for the mattress came to my knee, and I'm average height.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #234 - 02/12/08 07:54 PM

Not yet, but we cruised though BRU and USABaby on Sat. and DH is expressing interest in a changing table.  We're getting a gently used crib (it meets the safety regs) and a used dresser and a loaner glider (both from Mom).  I told DH that as far as I was concerned, The Tadpole could have used furniture until she's in a reg. bed.  That she can match then.  

Would you use a gently used infant car seat?  My cousin emailed me to say that she had a panic moment 1 year ago when her 2nd son was born and bought a 2nd one, which she would like to pass on to us.  I grew up with her and she's responsible and reliable.  She wouldn't offer it if there was a problem with the infant seat or anything.   Her DS turned one on Sat, so it's not like it's 10 years old or anything.  

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Sheila in Cali
Message #235 - 02/12/08 08:10 PM



Beth- If the car seat is less than a year old and has never been involved in an accident than you should be fine.  I think the big concern about used car seats comes in to play if they don't meet current safety standards and or have been in an accident.  It's like with Bike Helmets- if you are in an accident severe enough to crack the helmet it needs to be replaced.

 

As for the changing table- we used a changing pad on top of the dresser and that worked just fine for us. Changing table isn't bad so long as it has another function- dresser, storage etc. 

 

Good luck.

 

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Holly Smith
Message #236 - 02/12/08 08:53 PM

Yeah, as long as you know the condition of the carseat and it's not more than six years old you should be fine.  Most carseats are no longer guaranteed to be safe six years after manufacture.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #237 - 02/12/08 09:20 PM

Ok, thanks.  DH is fine with using it, but I wanted reassurance from other moms.    Apparently it's a Graco Snugride and has never been in an accident or been used on an airplane.  

Yeah, I changed lots of diapers on floors, bed, tables and couches with my younger brother and various family, so I'm kinda bemused by his interest in one.  He's 6'2" and concerned about leaning over when it's his turn to change diapers.  He's got back problems, so I get why he wants one, but I'm just surprised is all.  

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boos_mom
Message #238 - 02/12/08 10:27 PM



Beth -- I've taken used car seats from trusted people.  I think all car seats have an expiration date somewhere on them, maybe like 5-7 years.  So, if no accidents, check the expiration date and the safety recall website for any notices for that model.  Why would a car seat not be good after having gone on an airplane?  Are you talking about checking it as luggage vs. using it in the cabin? 

We never used a changing table.  I think I had enough trouble getting the baby cleaned up when #2 happened (and sometimes it was A LOT of stuff), that trying to ensure that the baby wasn't going to roll off of a changing table would've been too much.  I've found the carpeted floor (we don't wear shoes in our house) and even the crib (when the baby poops in their sleep) was perfectly fine. 

Mitten -- DD is 3 years old, so it's a fun age.  She says she wants a baby sister, but I think she'd be happier being the only 'princess'.

Holly -- our crib and mattress cost $180 from one of the -Marts.  I don't know if you were seeing the cribs with the lowest levels adjusted, but they can be raised higher for newborns and then lowered as the kid grows.  I think at the lowest level it's almost knee-level but raised it's much higher. 

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ff991
Message #239 - 02/13/08 04:03 PM



I apologize if I missed this in one of the earlier postings on this thread, but does anyone have any good pregnancy website recommendations?  Some ladies at work were talking about babycenter.com, but I wasn't sure if there are others that people are gravitating towards.  Thanks in advance!

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #240 - 02/13/08 04:23 PM

Why would a car seat not be good after having gone on an airplane?  Are you talking about checking it as luggage vs. using it in the cabin? 

Yes, apparently car seats that are checked as baggage or checked at boarding time are commonly tossed around and manhandled and presumably more liable for damage/safety issues.  

I have yet to find a good pregnancy website/board.  I either ask here or go to the www.thenest.com and find an appropriate baby board.  But I cannot stand their board setup (double scrolling and a super tiny message display area.  I swear 3/4s of the page is ads for the other boards or baby stuff.  I've used webmd for information as well.  

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MittenKitten
Message #241 - 02/13/08 04:24 PM



Babyzone dot come I have used for names, I am sure there are others I just can't think of them. 

Carseat:  I have taken a used infant seat and used it for my first two kids.  The third one I am actually getting a newer one from a friend as I no longer trust the other one.  Since I know where it is coming from I trust it and the person to be truthful about whether it has been in an accident.

Crib:  I think IKEAs are lower then normal.  I also spent around $180 for the crib and mattress but this was 5 years ago now.  And if the money is gone then I wouldn't worry about it, you did't go totally over board.  We found our crib online at K Mart, not the best crib but it did fit our price range.  Got the Mattress from BRU. 

If anyone is looking for books about pregnancy I HATED "What to expect when your expecting."  I know a lot of people look at it as a pregnancy bible but I just found it TOO restrictive and unrealistic.  I preferred "The Girlfriend's Guide to Pregnancy".  also the Babies Bargains book was a good source. I think that is the name of it, very famous been around for years. 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #242 - 02/13/08 04:39 PM

Mitten, I've got all 3 of those books!  I read the appropriate stuff every week, then go back and tell the best bits to DH.  One of those books has the lamest "Dad Tips" ever.  DH and I either laugh at them or are just confused by them.  There was one about how he should remember that your pregnant and help out with the shopping and the cleaning.  Um, yeah, shouldn't he be doing that anyway, pregnancy or no?  

Babybargains also does a website.  I haven't checked it out yet as I'm still reading the book.  The author also did some other books like Baby 411 and Toddler 411, according to the Baby Bargain book.  My cousin (the one with the car seat) recommended it to me.  she took hers with her to register and I'm probably going to do the same.  I bought the book, because baby books are not always easy to find at the library, after working in them for 18+ year, you learn things!  And I didn't want to wait.  Plus it keep me from buying the hardcover book I was contemplating buying.  lol.  

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Holly Smith
Message #243 - 02/13/08 04:55 PM

Baby sites: IVillage is a good site for general information and bulletin boards.  I'm on several of them, and serve as a community leader for the May 2008 Expecting Club.  Americanpregnancy.org is a good site for more detailed information, as is mayoclinic.com.

Cost of crib: It dawns on me that part of the reason why our crib was more expensive was that we wanted solid wood and no drop-side.  The drop-side cribs seemed so flimsy by comparison.  I guess I shouldn't complain too much since my parents paid for it.

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Susan in Texas
Message #244 - 02/13/08 07:00 PM



Holly,

When Elizabeth is almost two and the mattress is set to the lowest level so she can't climb out in the middle of the night, you will LOVE that drop-side.  Keep the latches for it secure (tighten the screws every now and again) and there's nothing to worry about.  Ours has lasted for almost six years.

 

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Holly Smith
Message #245 - 02/14/08 02:02 AM

We didn't buy a drop-side crib.  As I said, they were quite rickety.  A few that I tried out in the store came crashing down when I rested a hand on them.  I can see the convenience and I'm sure that most are not like that but I didn't want to take any chances.

I might well have her in a toddler bed by that point, if she's so inclined.  My sister put her kids in toddler beds on their first birthday (I don't know why she did this) and only one kid out of four seemed to have a real problem with it.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #246 - 02/14/08 02:01 PM

I'm assuming my DD will be in her crib until about two, then moving into a twin bed.  But we'll see if it actually works out that way.  DH and I both were handled that way.  In fact, I don't even remember having rails on the side of my twin or any of my younger siblings.  That doesn't mean they weren't there, just means I don't remember them.  

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Former_Roomate_99
Message #247 - 02/14/08 04:21 PM



My friend just put her 3 toddlers in crib mattresses on the floor and newborn babies go in a laundry basket with a towel in the bottom.  Seems ok as long as the floor gets cleaned often.  She was never able to get any of her kids to sleep in cribs. 

 

By the way, the really expensive crib mattresses are really hard and the cheaper ones are softer.  My son refused to sleep on the expensive mattress a friend gave me.  We got a cheap, soft mattress at Target and he's been sleeping in the crib ever since. 

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Former_Roomate_99
Message #248 - 02/14/08 04:34 PM

The doctors and baby books love to scare pregnant women to death.  If you follow every piece of advice, you'll make yourself miserable and sick.   For example, my coworker was told she could only take Tums for heartburn while my doctor said I could take the more powerful Zantac.  My coworker spent most of her pregnancy sleep deprived due to her untreated heartburn, was perpetually sick the last trimester due to being sleep deprived, and gained a ton of weight due to being sleep deprived.   I slept 8-10 hours every night, didn't get any colds, and only gained 15 pounds.  Who do you think had a healthier pregnancy?   

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Susan in Texas
Message #249 - 02/18/08 07:38 PM



Holly, I must have misunderstood, I thought that you did not want a drop-side crib but your parents had bought you one anyway.  I do stand by the comment though.  I am perfectly happy to keep my kiddos in cribs for as long as they fit and are not trying to climb out--but it's not easy to gently lay a 30-pound toddler in the low-set mattress.

 

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MittenKitten
Message #250 - 02/18/08 08:07 PM



I would be happy for the kids to stay in cribs as long as they want.  DS#1 climbed out 2 weeks after he turned 2.  DS#2 we will see he is 21 months now.  Of course I would actually be fine with him climbing out.  Then I can use the crib for the baby who will be in the pak n play until that time. 

I don't know that they had the rails when I was a kid but we did use them for DS#1 when he climbed out of this crib.  Worked well for us and we will use the rail again once DS#2 is in the bed. 

Now we are in limbo as to what vehicle to buy.  And in May we are going on vacation and really need either to rent a vehicle or have a new to us vehicle purchased.  I am going to have SUCH a hard time as we will probably end up with a minivan.  (I drive a Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 quad cab now.)  I DON'T WANNA BE A MINIVAN MOM .  But this is what's best for the family.  If I HAVE to drive a minivan I would like it to be a new Crysler town and country with all the whistles BUT I don't want to spend $27,000 to get what I want.  Unfortunately we really like the table and the captains chairs that are new in 2008.  Now how do I find one that is either repossessed or someone has to get rid of cheap..........

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Susan in Texas
Message #251 - 02/18/08 08:46 PM

Check the classifieds, go online and look on CarMax's website (you can specify the search distance), check the used lot at the Chrysler dealership--if that's what you really want.  It will take some patience, though.

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boos_mom
Message #252 - 02/19/08 01:35 AM



mitten - you could check out the newer Nissan Pathfinder, not the Armada size (not sure if '08 was redesigned).  SIL said that the 2nd row seems to be able to hold three car seats.  She's having #3 in April.  But, her oldest is 6, so that one is in a booster seat. 

Of course, the price is still around the same as the T&C, but it's not a minivan....  Yes, I don't want a minivan either.  Of course, that lower floor is a lot easier to lug kids in and out of than the suvs. 

For cribs, I did really love the drop railing, and yes, our kid was very plump.  It was wonderful to keep her in the crib as long as possible so as not to have "the midnight visitor."  Once the kid moved into the toddler bed, I was getting some unrestful sleep being kicked and jabbed when the kid snuck into our bed and I was too tired to protest.  Thankfully, she's back to sleeping nicely in her bed all night!  woo-hoo. 

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New-Mummy
Message #253 - 02/19/08 02:45 PM



Ladies, I've got a cravings vs. budget problem.  I'm in 6th month and my appetite has been mostly gone since about a month ago.  I cook for the boy and DH fine but the food just doesn't appeal and so I don't eat often or regularly.  The only thing I want is buttermilk ($2.19 for half gallon - aargh and if I buy some then it's gone really fast) and sometimes beans (ok budgetwise) and tomatoes and avocados or guacamole (not ok - tomatoes are around $3/lb no matter which kind you get and avocados are .50 to .78 EACH and guacamole premade is $3.48 - $3.50 except it was a bit cheaper superbowl weekend which is the last time I got any). 

 

I tried to eat a normal size regular meal again the other day and as I suspected would happen, I threw up.  So mini snacks are what we're down to.  Anybody think of any budget friendly ways to keep something down?

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newmommy_SC
Message #254 - 02/19/08 02:48 PM

I have just had my first baby and started back to work.....and I hate it!!  I didn't know if anyone knew of a way to find at-home work, any help would be appreciated!!!

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jdnstl
Message #255 - 02/20/08 06:19 PM

i just skimmed through the last 22 pages of this thread. it's been very up & down.
happy moments when i read someone's announcement that yes they were preggo or it's a boy or a girl.
sad moment for sarah (i think that was the one)
and nausea moments reading about the epidurals, pain killers... i don't deal well with needles. i've fainted several times just having blood drawn.
which makes it difficult being 7 weeks pregnant. i felt sick just typing  ep******.

anyway, my question goes back to pets. i read how you all have prepared your dogs for a new baby...but what about a cat? i know it sounds funny, but i really need help with this. nestle is only about 3 yo. i got her from my mom's ex fiance when he died & he only had her 5 months before that. here are her issues: she doesn't like closed doors, she follows me everywhere (even to the bathroom), she's very protective of me (as i found out when i brought home a new cat 5 months ago), & she sleeps in my arms at night, literally. i can't not give her attention because she jumps on my lap if i sit & she meows the whole time i'm standing & not holding her. i know she's extremely spoiled but it was only me & her for several months & it just kinda happened. cats are suppose to be more independent, non-chalant...she is NOT.
so what do i do with this spoiled kitty?

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MittenKitten
Message #256 - 02/20/08 06:58 PM



jdnstl:   You do a lot of the same you would do with a child or dog.  I would buy a doll and start carrying it around at times and putting in the crib for nap and closing the door etc.  Better for her to deal with a doll at first then a newborn.  Close the door to the babies room so the kitty can't get in there now.  (that way if she is jealous after the birth she isn't doing nasty things in the baby's room)

When I first brought DS#1 home my cats were MAD!!!!  They hissed at him the first day.  But they got used to him very quickly.  have someone bring home a blanket the baby has been wrapped in while you are still at the hospital.  Let the kitty get used to the scent. 

I would also have a spray bottle with water ready just in case.  She won't like it but it won't hurt her either if you need to use it.  Get a bobby pillow that way you may be able to hold both the baby and the kitty. 

Good luck

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #257 - 02/20/08 07:07 PM

I would start shutting the door to whatever room is going to be the baby room now, so she has time to get used to it.  My cat likes to sleep on my hip or DH's hip when she's desparate.  I won't risk her trying to sleep on the baby, so Thea doesn't get access to the baby room.  In our case, we used to use the room for storage and kept the door closed anyway.  

Firmness and a spray bottle should help.  You can also call your vet or an animal trainer and see if they have any suggestions.  Or your local shelters - I'm sure they'd prefer to help you and your cat re-adjust to the forthcoming situation rather than have to place her at a later date.  And try to find a a pets board somewhere here on msn - there must be one somewhere.  Or on a baby board.  You'll probably get more responses than here!  lol.  

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boos_mom
Message #258 - 02/20/08 07:40 PM



NewMummy - I totally am having avacado cravings as well.  I like it in my sandwiches, turkey, lots of sprouts, tomatoes, a smidge of mayo, or with salads.  I would say, continue buying the tomatoes and avocados, since you're having issues with eating.  Any wholesale places near you that your neighbors go to?  If so, could you split a box with them?  Cheaper and a lot of it?  Or try large cans of diced tomatoes?  Also, how about apples and peanut butter, or pb and banana sandwiches?  Small portions are definitely recommended.  Don't force yourself to eat large amounts.  Pick up some nuts (I love cashews right now) or trail mix and snack on that.  Whole grain crackers and cheese.  Baby carrots and cottage cheese.  Try to stick with proteins, healthy fats (like the avocados) and whole grains for your snacks to give you the feeling of fullness.  Make sure you tell your dr. about your eating difficulties.  Maybe he/she can give you some recommended menus/foods to try, or check out some of those pregnancy websites. 

Unfortunately, they won't be the "cheaper" foods.  But, you want to eat healthier foods for you and baby.  Did you ever try reapplying for WIC?  That should help with the cheese and milk (although, not the buttermilk).  Best wishes!

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Susan in Texas
Message #259 - 02/20/08 08:15 PM

newmommy_SC, there is a whole thread addressing your question, it's a few months old now, but a search should turn it up.

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New-Mummy
Message #260 - 02/21/08 07:08 PM



There were some good tips about the kitty cat up there, but you might be pleasantly surprised by the kitty - mine was a very possessive kitty too (passed away now, unfortunately - I miss her), hated it when I got married and never could stand my husband a bit.  The boy, though, she attached to immediately when I brought him home.  She would come stand at his door if he cried and miaow loudly to make sure I was coming fast enough, jump up in his window and stand guard while I was changing diapers, and even put up with him pulling her tail, when she got sick of it she would just miaow once and get up and walk off.  She even put up with him hugging her, I have the cutest picture of him hugging her and she was just laying there purring.  I was shocked because I was really expecting her to hate this intruder, especially since she was so old and set in her ways, so here's hoping you have as much luck as I did.

 

Otherwise search online for "Calling All Pets," it's an NPR show where an animal behaviourist, Patricia someone (McDonnell? McDonald? I can't remember right now)  answers questions, I think she has several times addressed babies and pets so I bet there is a synopsis on the website.

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New-Mummy
Message #261 - 02/21/08 07:25 PM



Well, my glucose test came out badly yesterday so I've got to go in for the three hour on Tuesday.  Talked to my mother and she is going to let me come raid her freezer and fridge this weekend, we are going to lay out a menu and precook some stuff on a diabetic controlled diet, because odds are the eating issues, the constant thirstiness, and the extra frequent urination which I thought were just pregnancy quirks are in fact symptoms of gestational diabetes.  The PCOS I have put me at risk anyway, so we're just going to act "as if" for the rest of the pregnancy to try and get things as straightened out as possible.  My mom is going to help me out  by letting me come take food from there so that's the temporary solution, then I will just buy perishables like milk for the boy and such.

 

WIC was again a no-go, they just really don't like my employment situation and basically told me that if I got bonuses, they couldn't determine my income and so would automatically decline.  So that's that, I've tried several times now and I think I'm better off just trying to budget like mad.

 

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dakota4600
Message #262 - 02/21/08 07:37 PM



I'm sorry new-mummy, I have several friends who had GD and they all had healthy babies and were able to control it without meds.  My GD test came back ok, but I am seriously anemic so I'm having to take these nasty smelling horse pills once a day. 

Did anyone here use a doula?  My DH & I are seriously considering it.  We both like the idea of having someone who went through this before with us during L&D.  An added bonus would be that most are certified in massage and can do that between contractions.

 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #263 - 02/21/08 08:53 PM

New-Mummy - I had to take the 3 hour GD test a few weeks ago.  Bring a book or something to read, because even with DH there, it was pretty boring.  My ob/gyn told me that about 1/2 of the women who take the 3 hour test pass it.  I did pass it and I'm PCOS too.  
Good luck!
Beth

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jdnstl
Message #264 - 02/21/08 09:24 PM

newmommy - what's funny is that when my husband moved in she attached to him pretty good. he doesn't spoil her like i do, but she will sit in his lap too if we're on the couch together. so maybe she'll be ok with a new baby, but because she likes to sleep ON me (on my lap, chest, arms, neck, wherever she can find) i am definitely afraid she may try to sleep ON the new baby. right now we don't have a separate room for the baby. we have an open loft above the kitchen that we use as an escape room, but there's no door & there's not really a wall, just a railing on 1 side. we plan to move within a month or so of (s)he being born, but i'm pretty sure (s)he will sleep in our room until the move. maybe i'll try the doll trick & see if she tries to smother it when i hold it.
thanks everyone for the advice!!!

[Virgil Showlion]

boos_mom
Message #265 - 02/22/08 12:43 AM



Oh, I finally got confirmation that my OB received the results of the integrated screening and the bloodwork and ultrasound results all looked 'normal'.  Even though the specialist said everything looked okay, I guess I was a bit anxious without knowing the actual blood results as well.

NewMummy - I had an elevated reading for my 1 hour test with my first, a lot of people do actually, so don't start to panic yet.  Then, the 3 hour test came out okay (although I may have skewed my results since for the first couple of readings I did stroll about a bit outside, while for the third reading I just sat and read a book).  My 3rd reading was the highest, but since the other two were in the normal range, they didn't do anything, and I didn't mention why it might've been more normal....

I too am pretty thirsty much of the time, but wondered if I just had too much sodium in the foods I was eating.  Hmmmm...  I expect to have to go through the 3 hour test again this time around as well.  I think the tendency toward GD runs on my mother's side, as we all have large babies for our petite sizes.  DH's family all have like 6 lb babies, while my side it runs close to, if not over, 8 lbs.  But, definitely being more conscious of watching your diet in terms of GD is a good idea.  Usually, everything can be okay with a careful regimen, but the down side is that some think that having GD may predispose you to diabetes later on. 

I'm glad that you'll be getting some help for groceries from your mom.  Sorry that WIC didn't work out for you. 

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Susan in Texas
Message #266 - 02/22/08 03:37 AM



New Mummy,

Do keep us posted.  I had GDM with my boys and it was easily controlled with diet.  Does your doctor have experience with this or the ability to refer you to a nutritionist?

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MittenKitten
Message #267 - 02/22/08 11:39 PM

Okay I am 30 weeks now.  I figure I will go sometime between 38-39 weeks and we have YET to have a name picked out!  ARG!  I really HATE naming kids.  Am hoping I have not tramatized the kids we have already LOL.  DS#1 at 4.5 years LOVES his name.  DS#2 is just under 2 so cannot express an opinion yet.  At least if nothing else he can go by a version of his middle name. 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #268 - 02/25/08 04:05 PM

MittenKitten - I'm at 28 weeks and we don't have a name picked out either.  We've got a few we're considering but that's about it, so you're not alone!

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SullyKitty
Message #269 - 02/26/08 05:10 PM

In regards to the kitty question.  I use to babysit for a woman who's son would constantly try to climb out of his crib.  She put the white netting thing over the top of his crib that was made for preventing climbing out and climbing in of small pets.  You could see through it and it wasn't scary.  It had velcro to strap it to the top of the crib.  There was a place to unzip on the side so you could lower baby into the crib.  It almost looked like a little pop tent.  They also had a cat and it kept the cat from climbing into the crib as well.  I'm not sure if it had a specific name or not but my mom told me she has seen them in catalogs before.  I have two cats who like to cuddle up close to people's faces so I will probably invest in one when baby comes for added piece of mind.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #270 - 02/26/08 07:40 PM

Well, I saw the ob/gyn this morning for my monthly appt.  I'm 28 weeks, 5 days and gained 12 lbs so far.  Everything is looking normal.  Yay!  Now I move to ob/gyn appts every 2 weeks, per my ob/gyn's standard operating procedure.  That part kinda sucks, but at least my job is understanding about it.  
Beth

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btvsrcks
Message #271 - 02/26/08 08:32 PM

The PCOS I have put me at risk anyway, so we're just going to act "as if" for the rest of the pregnancy to try and get things as straightened out as possible.

I also have PCOS, and was recently diagonosed with Diabetes (Note: I am 35).  If I might make a suggestion, try to stick to the diabetic diet AFTER the pregnancy as well.  I sure wish I had listened when they said 'Insulin Resistance' a million times after my diagnosis.  Small changes now can make big ones later.

 

Now I am currently trying to get pregnant.  I am watching my blood sugar like a hawk, as the worst times to be off are the first two months of pregnancy.  Luckily, because of my PCOS, I was diagnosed but still with a fairly low blood sugar (never been over 200, even with the worst food) so it is easy to get back in line.

 

Wish me luck ladies.  And good luck to all of you.

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New-Mummy
Message #272 - 02/27/08 12:34 AM



Well, sat through the three hour test today.  Results in a day or two.  To be honest, my mother thinks my blood sugar being off is a result of my cost cutting and making the pasta, rice, and potatoes the basis of everything, since I don't drink juice or soda or eat a lot of refined soda, she figures it might be just too many simple carbohydrates.  She might be right, but other stuff costs so much...guess I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and figure out how to budget for a bigger grocery bill.

 

Meanwhile, she has me doing glucose monitoring 4 times a day.  If the 3 hour comes back within limits I get to come back down to morning and evening sticks.  If not I guess I'll have pretty sore fingers by the end of the pregnancy. Sometimes, like now, I'm very glad my mother's an advanced practice nurse, but it's very sad that she's providing more medical care for me than the OB/GYN.  I've been reporting abnormal nausea and thirst for a while now and all I was told was "drink more" and "take some tums."    The guy doesn't listen very well.

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Susan in Texas
Message #273 - 02/27/08 03:48 PM



New Mummy,

Can you get another OB/GYN?

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MittenKitten
Message #274 - 02/27/08 04:09 PM



New Mummy:  I agree with Susan.  That is terrible advice.  Of course I also prefer a woman Obgyn.  My favorite moved a state away so I couldn't go back to her.   Best of wishes on your test.  Did you eat differently for it?

btvsrcks:  Best of luck in getting pregnant.  From the sounds of it you should know pretty quickly if you are successful or not!  I know one lady who didn't know until she was 10-11 weeks and that was b/c her DH told her to take a test!  I on the other hand suspected with DS#1 at 4 weeks and knew at 5 (he was BC failure, we were going to try in 9 months.)  DD who is due in April I knew at 4 weeks (she is also a BC failure and a complete surprise LOL). 

WI Beth:  I WISH I was only at the 12 lb weight gain.  Oh well more to lose later I guess.  So far I am at 21 lbs gained and 9 weeks left.  Then again I think my weight gain will slow since there is no room for any food in my belly with baby!

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #275 - 02/27/08 04:19 PM

Mitten, I'm at the eating everything in sight phase.  The doctor said it's likely to continue though the end of the pregnancy.

New Mummy, I second seeing if you can get a new/different ob/gyn.   I really like my male Ob/gyn and I think he's good for DH, who also has never been in a relationship with a pregnancy before this.  But if you can't change - stand up to the doctor and keep on saying "that's not what I'm asking/saying" and go into the problem again.  Repeat until you get a response that at least addresses the problem.  

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New-Mummy
Message #276 - 02/27/08 10:12 PM



Don't get me started on this OB/GYN.  I hate him, but when I tried changing doctors - hoo boy.  Big mess.  Thought I had a new doctor, in fact had an appointment and scheduled a followup, then got sent a letter saying "find yourself a new doc, we don't want you anymore."  Looks like when they got my whole records they decided I would be too much trouble.  So I had to politely ask to come back to this one.  And my mother is watching things like a hawk to try and make sure he does what he needs to, then I'll find someone else after the baby comes.  Found out he wants to use Dermabond instead of sutures (not good for skin under stress, for instance - the abdomen of an overweight woman who will be chasing a toddler) so we're attacking that too.  He just seems to be one of these "god complex" doctors who doesn't want any input from outside sources, and thinks the patient should just shut up, which annoys me no end.  Anyway, I guess I did get started on him anyhow...

 

3 hour results came back - they "passed" me, but looking at the numbers I was awfully close (for example, 1 hour, "normal" is <180, and I had a 179) so I am guessing my mother is still going to have me watching things very closely.

[Virgil Showlion]

boos_mom
Message #277 - 02/28/08 06:23 PM



Yay, I think we figured out baby's name last night!  It's a merging of 2 names, 1 that he really liked and 1 that I thought sounded really good with our surname.  Boys names are definitely harder to figure out for some reason for us.  So, unless the baby is a girl, we'll probably stick with it (or my choice as a back up). 

I took a spill (more like a splat) yesterday, on the sidewalk as I was meeting DH to go to my dr. appt.  I think my hands and arms took the brunt of the fall, but that was so unusual that I couldn't recover from the trip.  Too much weight in the front I guess.  DH came running, along with 3 other men.  Dr. said just to check for amniotic fluid or blood (none so far).  Baby's heartbeat was fine and baby has been moving around as usual.  So, I think all is okay.  Dr. said since I was just under 20 weeks, the hospital Labor & Delivery wouldn't even accept me for monitoring anyway.  Anyway, I'm being careful about those uneven patches on the sidewalk now! 

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Holly Smith
Message #278 - 02/28/08 06:43 PM

Yikes, falling can be so scary!  I've almost fallen a couple of times.

I had a minor car accident (guy sideswiped us) a couple of weeks ago.  I went to L&D just to be on the safe side.  Those beds are really uncomfortable.

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Susan in Texas
Message #279 - 02/29/08 03:39 PM



New Mummy,

If he is a solo practitioner, does he have a call partner who might be willing to take you?  Or would that be out of the frying pan into the fire?

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debtinheritor
Message #280 - 03/02/08 04:42 PM

I have a question for all of you.  When your period was late, how long did you wait to take the pregnancy test?  Right now I'm only 2 days late, but normally right on schedule, and I just have a feeling about it, which I guess sounds silly.  DH thinks we should wait til Wednesday, that would be 5 days late.  I'm just impatient and want to know.  We have been trying, so I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I just have a feeling about it.

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Holly Smith
Message #281 - 03/02/08 07:10 PM

The cycle I got pregnant, I did not wait until I was late.  I actually chickened out and took a test on Monday when my period was due on Friday- I was 11 days past ovulation.  It came back inconclusive- the slightest second line, but I wasn't sure if it was actually there.  Tuesday I did the same thing and came back with the same.  Wednesday I took a FRER (first response early result) and it quickly came back positive.  By Friday the second line was dark.

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MittenKitten
Message #282 - 03/02/08 08:08 PM



Debt:  When my period didn't show on time I took it then.  Sure enough positve.  I am one of these really regular gals.  In fact one or two months after birth my "friend" was back even though I was nursing .  Oh well just really fertile.  DS#1 I took the test a week after I it was due but I suspected a week before that.  DF thought I was nuts.  DS#2 last period started the 8th of Aug and I took the test around the first part of Sept which was either right when I should have been getting it OR right after I should have gotten it. 

I don't know if any of you lerk or check into the no spend threads but DS#1 who is 4.5 yrs is quite the handful.  I am going to start sending him outside EVERY day regardless of how cold it is.  He needs to burn some energy off, apparently preschool and karate are not enough.  Unfortunately I will have to send him out alone which I can understand is somewhat boring but not much I can do about it.  This week he has taken his half brothers chapstick (with my niece as co-conspiritor) and wrote on his closet walls, put a stick on the closet door, tried to flood the bathroom, dumped part of the baby shampoo in MY bathroom out, taken the bandaids and put about 10 on himself (no where near where his sore was) and a few other things. 

DS#2 I am thinking of calling the doctor's office about having him evaluated for developmental delay.  He seems to be about 6 months behind on everything and always has been.  He is 22 months not talking (he said quite a few words at 7 months and then just stopped.)  I would rather have him evaluated now then after I give birth.  I really don't want to have to carry him and a baby everywhere AND keep track of DS#1 (who is actually very good when we go places.)  Wish me luck, I am a little frightened of what they may say. 

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Jewellya
Message #283 - 03/03/08 03:11 PM



Yippee!!!! I was late this weekend and took the test last night.  we've been waiting and hoping since last summer. so, um... besides getting a doctor's confirmation...what to do? and when would be the best time to tell my supervisor? It's funny because I ride a vanpool with her and we're really friendly and the company promotes a family atmosphere so I REALLY wanna tell people, but hate being all "ME ME ME LOOK AT ME, I'M SPECIAL", and all that jazz...

 

really, I kinda knew from day one. since I've been waiting for a while, with any little twinge my body makes I'd think I was preggers. then two fridays ago I felt a small pain in my lower abdomen like i was getting a shot.  and I think "wow, that's different. this may finally be it...don't get too excited...wait a week for your cycle..."

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #284 - 03/03/08 04:04 PM

Well, when I was reading the boxes trying to decide which test to buy, they all seemed to say that the longer you wait after your missed period the more accurate the test is.  

I told DH I was going to take a PG test after I was late.  I knew something was up with my body, but I wasn't sure what.  Pregnancy crossed my mind, but was discarded since I was on the pill and DH and I both have medical **** going on that was supposed to make it hard to get me pregnant  After the test was positive, I called my doctor and made an appt.  After getting there, they did their test and said the stick they used turned color IMMEDIATELY.  Since we weren't trying to get pg and I'm not real regular even with the pill, I had no idea when my last period was.  We thought I might be about 5 weeks along, so they sent me to get an U/S, which determined that I was closer to 10 weeks along.  What I thought was a period turned out to be implantation spotting.  

My physical symptoms before the testing were EXTREMELY sore breasts and an inablity to eat the amounts I normally ate (not necessarily a bad thing since I'm overweight).

As for what happens next regarding work, I think it depends on where you work and their attitude towards you and pregnant women employees.  Mine place is great, but it's a local gov't job, so they play by the rules.  I told everyone right away - but I also knew I was protected.  You may want to quietly check out your employee handbook/rules and see what that says about pregnancies.  Also check your paperwork or call your insurance and find out what's covered and what's not so you know what expenses will be coming up during the pregnancy, with the birth and for the first year or so.  

Good luck and congratulations!
Beth

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debtinheritor
Message #285 - 03/04/08 01:16 PM

Well, we decided to take the test last night and it was negative.  It's so weird though because I still feel like something is different with my body and because I still haven't gotten my period.  It was very disappointing that it was negative.  Not sure what is going on.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #286 - 03/04/08 01:56 PM

Debtinheritor, I would wait another few days and try the test again if your period doesn't come.  

On to another topic - bras.  My underwire bras are getting uncomfortable and I need to be fitted and sized for new bras, probably maternity or nursing styles.  I'm almost 30 weeks along and a size 38/40C.  Anyone have any recommendations for me?  I'm going to repost this question on the VS thread that's going, since people are recommending on it.  

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Susan in Texas
Message #287 - 03/04/08 05:52 PM



Mittenkitten,

Best of luck with your son's evaluation.  Been there, done that.  Just try to keep in mind that the earlier you can get him help, the better off he will be.  We'll be thinking of you.

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Holly Smith
Message #288 - 03/04/08 06:12 PM

Maternity bras are so expensive!  I've been going to Ross to get my bras, and I've been really happy with that.  I can get the really expensive brands for $5.

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boos_mom
Message #289 - 03/04/08 06:16 PM



debt - you may want to ask your OB if you can have a blood test done.  First kid was confirmed only via a blood test.  Otherwise, wait another week for your period and try testing again at home. 

jewellya - I didn't tell anyone during the first trimester whom I wouldn't be comfortable telling that I had a miscarriage.  Because I was worried about having a miscarriage, I just kept it to immediate family and my best friends.  I told my boss after 3 months and my my staff (and my workplace is very family friendly).  I also kind of waited for the results of my integrated screenings, which wasn't complete until about 18 weeks before I felt okay with telling anyone else.  If there were some "issues" or concerns, I wanted to have time for me to process emotionally before having to explain to other people. 

mitten - definitely get testing done ASAP.  If DS#2 does qualify for the 0-3 program, it is only until he turns 3 years old.  After that, you would need to pay for continued services unless he qualifies for Special Ed with the Dept. of Education.  My 2nd nephew had speech delay and got less than a year of speech therapy b/c the assessment process took a couple of months due to rescheduled appts.  Luckily, BIL's cousin is a speech therapist so she voluntarily assisted them after nephew turned 3 years old.  You know your son best, so don't let them brush you off if you think he really needs some assistance.  My sister is teacher so she was in denial for a bit before she finally got him evaluated.

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Jewellya
Message #290 - 03/04/08 06:45 PM

I didn't tell anyone during the first trimester whom I wouldn't be comfortable telling that I had a miscarriage.  Because I was worried about having a miscarriage, I just kept it to immediate family and my best friends.  I told my boss after 3 months and my my staff (and my workplace is very family friendly).  I also kind of waited for the results of my integrated screenings, which wasn't complete until about 18 weeks before I felt okay with telling anyone else.  If there were some "issues" or concerns, I wanted to have time for me to process emotionally before having to explain to other people. 

so much for that... oh well, I didn't go blabbing it to my whole department. I suppose my supervisor would have to know if there were problem cause I'd have to take a day or two off work. other than her, I told the lady I work with directly and no one else. I don't feel the most comfortable broadcasting it anyway. It's funny, I don't even "feel" pregnant. yeah, I feel a little goofy and I have more indegestion than usual, but I really feel that I shouldn't get too comfortable with the Idea because one of these days, I'm gonna wake up.

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Susan in Texas
Message #291 - 03/04/08 06:56 PM

I second the "only tell who you have to" motion.  Or rather, only tell the people whose support you would want if something bad happened.  They'll all know soon enough  even though it seems like forever.

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Susan in Texas
Message #292 - 03/04/08 07:02 PM

Re: the maternity bra thing; I had good luck with Hanes when I was really huge and Motherhood when the weight started coming off.  Another possibility is to wear the kind of sports bra that zips up the front, especially under t-shirts or other "sloppy" clothes.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #293 - 03/04/08 07:13 PM

Ok, thanks.  

Good luck with the testing and the telling ladies!

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sjk279
Message #294 - 03/05/08 02:46 AM



Have any of you had to have a pre-pregnancy consultation with a perinatal doctor? My OB referred me to one due to some of my health conditions. I guess it's just a little unnerving knowing I will have a high-risk pregnancy before I'm even pregnant, so I am wondering if any of you went through this too. I've read studies about my health condition and pregnancy (I'm not going to say since it's rather rare and want to stay anonymous) and things should be ok, I will just have to be monitored a little more closely.

Regarding the maternity bra, my sister had to buy the bra extenders (I think you can order them at penney's) that added on 2 inches. It helped her get through the last few months so she didn't have to keep buying new bras. Once she was nursing she knew more of the size she was going to be and bought the right size.

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New-Mummy
Message #295 - 03/05/08 03:18 AM



My old OB/GYN (who specialized in high risk pregnancies) did a follow-up with me before he retired, and recommended I see him again when/if I planned to become pregnant again, but since this pregnancy was accidental...well, let's just say I was almost through the first trimester before I figured it out so prenatal preparation was kind of out of the question.  And then I found out he had retired and had to pick a new guy at the practice. So, the baby's due in May and everything is probably fine at this late date, but this new picked out of a hat OB/GYN is NOT doing the testing I had with my first one, and it's making me very nervous.  I've only had two ultrasounds, just standard determining date of conception and checking spinal cord/gender, when last time I had five, checking for that and for other issues.

 

Oddly enough, the extra attention reassured me.  With my first pregnancy, before we knew I had any problems, I had only seen a midwife once, everybody was just very laidback and I felt stupid asking questions.  Then I miscarried and was just kind of left to deal with it.  Only when I had the second pregnancy did they start figuring out there were some problems.

 

I miss my old doc.  At least he made me feel like he was paying attention, and in fact the extra monitoring meant we had a little time to get ready for my son's kidney issues because he couldn't find the left kidney on ultrasound, and he recommended up my son's pediatric urologist and notified my chosen pediatrician that there might be problems after delivery.  Not as bad as it could have been, but still, it was good to be prepared for it.

 

So I guess what I'm saying is it can be better to have someone monitoring you all the way along than sitting there wondering "is this normal or is this a sign that..." even with relatively mild health issues, and if you have other problems then it can be reassuring to know that the people looking after you really know what they're doing.

 

 

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sjk279
Message #296 - 03/05/08 04:07 AM



New-Mummy, thank you so much! Those are the words I needed to hear. I guess I'm a little freaked out right now with making the decision to make the BIG JUMP into parenthood, that it just seems odd to be discussing this so much with people other than DH before 'the act' has taken place. Ah well. (My OB said I will have a 'well-coodinated' pregnancy.) You are right, I have an excellent medical team looking after my well-being, and when I decide to get pregnant, they will still be there.

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Jewellya
Message #297 - 03/05/08 01:55 PM

um, anyone know anywhere to get bras larger than an H? I'm already an H and have maxed out Lane bryant's sizing chart. I suppose the bra extenders can help for a while, but I know that having a cup size that's too small is no picnic.

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Jewellya
Message #298 - 03/05/08 02:14 PM

NeverMind, I googled it. I'm surprised how many options I have.

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dakota4600
Message #299 - 03/05/08 03:44 PM

For those looking for bra extenders, try JoAnn's or other fabric stores.  I got several and there were in the $1-$2 range.   My friends who are breastfeeding highly recommend the sports bra type of nursing bra that Target carries and both of them are large in the chest to begin with.  Also check with your birthing center and see if they have a lactation store where they can measure you after 36 weeks for a nursing bra.

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bibliomaniagrl
Message #300 - 03/06/08 07:55 PM



On the maternity bra topic:  I'm almost 17 weeks.  I've already gone from a B to C and even that is getting tight.  How many sizes is "normal" to go up? 

 

As far as actual bras go when I was at Kohls getting a couple C's the lady in that department directed me to the new Barely There style (I usually buy that brand).  Anyway they have some that unclasp like nursing bras (at the top of the cup to the strap) but are "normal" in style and price.  I usually wait until they go on a big sale or buy one get one free which they have a lot at Kohls.  I also have a Kohls card so I occasionally get those additional 15-30% off coupons.  That makes it a little less expensive.

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MittenKitten
Message #301 - 03/12/08 06:16 PM



Bra sizes:  It depends.  My "girls" have grown conserdably with each pregnancy.  I joke that if I were to run I would knock myself out now and I started as a C.  I think 2 bra sizes is fairly regular.  I also like the sports bra nursing bras.  Actually I go back to normal sports bras fairly early I HATE that the closures stick out some and I find it not too hard to just pull a sports bra up.  and I have nursed EVERYWhere.  DS#2 couldn't take a bottle and when one is at a little league game and has a hungry baby you feed him!  (I was always descrete and used a blanket although I wouldn't smother him either.) 

Went to the doc they suggested going through the school system for DS#2 not speaking and having his hearing checked (Just as I figured they would.)  Waiting on a call back from the school system.  Nice thing is through the school system is that it will not cost us anything and they have to service him as long as he qualifies.  I am very happy I worked for Mpls public schools in the spec ed dept so I know how the process works and my rights.

How is everyone doing?

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #302 - 03/12/08 06:55 PM

Well, my FMLA forms were completed by my ob/gyn.  They're mailing them to my house.  I need to submit soon, as my job prefers them as early as is feasible.  
We're going to our first baby class tonight!  .  It's 2 hours and includes a tour and is supposed to cover new dads as well as new moms.    We still need to sign up for birthing and breastfeeding though.  
I bought 3 bras for $42.00 at JCPenney's last weekend.  They're incredibly itchy though, so they're going back in the washer again.  It was frustrating to buy them in the first place - and now I don't wanna go back out shopping for nursing bras.  
My shower is this weekend, so I need to buy stamps and decide if I want to use the leftover thank you cards from our wedding.  They're pretty and have a Thomas Kincade scene on them, but it's not remotely a baby shower thank you.  

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boos_mom
Message #303 - 03/12/08 07:19 PM

decide if I want to use the leftover thank you cards from our wedding.  They're pretty and have a Thomas Kincade scene on them, but it's not remotely a baby shower thank you

I vote to use your wedding cards.  No one will care if it's cutesy baby-related thank you's.  The sooner you can get the Thank You's done, the better for you, so you don't have to worry about them once the baby arrives. 

I wish I had bra related problems.  My "girls" were barely a B before the 1st one.  They shrank to less than A's after I stopped BF-ing/pumping  .  Now, they're back up to a B.  They did get HUGE when my milk first came in (I felt like Pamela Anderson, wow!), but since little newborns can't drink all that milk, I lost it.  I will have to make a concentrated effort to pump right away this time around when I've got that much milk.  If so, maybe I won't even need to use a little bit of formula with the 2nd one. 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #304 - 03/12/08 07:28 PM

I was a C cup before the pregnancy, when measured on by the clerk, she calculated that I was a 44E and then asked "Did that sound right."  Um, no it didn't.  Then they didn't have ANY bras available for me to try on in 44D or 44E, but she assured me I could order them from the website.  No, I won't be.  I don't order online/catalog unless I KNOW it's gonna fit because I hate doing returns, which I explained to her.  So she said I can come back next week when the new shipment is in, maybe they're have my size then.  So we ended up at JCPenney's, where I discovered I could grab a handfull of fabric in the cups of the 44D I was trying on.  I went back to the C cups.  I'm getting support, I'm not spilling over or bulging, so I'm sticking with these for now.  But it shouldn't be this hard to get freaking bras - 2 malls and 4 stores before success?  Sorry about the rant.  

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #305 - 03/25/08 08:48 PM

Well, I'll be buying a dresser after all.  We invited my parents and younger brother over for Easter dinner.  I told Mom we'd have the baby room painted and ready to stick the dresser she's giving us in it.  It's a leftover bought 40+ years ago when Mom was expecting.  Brother tripped going up the 1 step to the porch and smashed the dresser!  It wasn't the prettiest or best dresser, but it would have worked until we were ready to move into a big girl bed.  Oh well.  
I think DH and I will be hitting stores to see what kind of dresser-changing table combos they have.  DH would feel better with a changing table for when it's his turn to change diapers.  I've changed enough diapers on all sorts of surfaces, so having an official changing table is the least of my concerns, but it will make DH happy.  

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livingalmostlarge
Message #306 - 03/26/08 03:42 AM



I read this on another board. Is this real?  www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=397672&in_page_id=1879&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=FEMAIL&ct=5  Do people really feel like this?

 

I get my MIL tells DH she wishes she didn't have him, but only because she hates being marred to FIL.  NOT because she didn't want kids, she just regrets well you know?  Marriage cause of a baby.

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Aspiring2BeMore
Message #307 - 03/26/08 04:01 AM

Regarding taking care of children while mom/dad work.  My daughter was fortunate her husband had two days off during the week for several months and the grandmothers gladly pitched in the other days.  Now both the grandmothers have taken over.  You can't help but want to be there to love your grandchild and help raise them.  Of course, this only works if the grandparents are retired and are able and willing to take on the challenge.  My son's child is due in April and the same scenario is going to take place.

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MittenKitten
Message #308 - 03/26/08 04:55 AM



JN:  Wow and I only read half the article.  Why did this woman have kids? 

35 weeks and counting now.  Soon DD will be here.  Just wish me luck she comes early otherwise I am camping out at the doctors office insisting I be induced. 

Been a very sickly house around here, if I were working outside the home I would have been off for the last 2 weeks with illnesses.  DS#1 has his first ear infection and has been up in the middle of the night most nights.  (he will be 5 in June.) 

As it is all of a sudden Real Estate is booming for me but everyone knows there will be a week I will be unavailable.  (yes knowing me that is all it will be and I will be doing whatever needs to be done.)  Unfortunately one of my clients will be my sister who is moving to North Carolina (we live in MN).  Not looking forward to dealing with the house as not many have moved in her neighborhood. 

Hope everyone is doing well. 

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coset
Message #309 - 03/26/08 02:42 PM



Mitten: we ran through that a few weeks ago -- somehow we got lucky and got strep in the house twice this winter with the same child.  Wondering if we get to win something........ha! 

 

I am wishing you tons of luck!!!  I am really hoping that I go into labor on my own......the thought of pitocin again makes me just want to cry!  They have done it twice before and I swear my body just shuts down with it.....ugh.  I was on it for 2 days for child #2.

 

On this end we are 32.5 weeks..........suppose I should call the hospital and let them know I will be coming, huh?  LOL For a type A organized person I sure haven't done ANYTHING yet for this munchkin............though I have been working with DD to get her room purged so we can put a crib in there and re-do her room (it is tiny, but bigger than DS) with a loft to maximize floor space.  huh.......maybe when I get some more energy....oh yeah....that was being saved for vehicle shopping....LOL

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MittenKitten
Message #310 - 03/26/08 03:19 PM

cosett:  Where in MN are you (if I may be that nosey)  I live in St Michael and grew up in Minneapolis.  We also need to do the vehicle thing, just hard to do since we would need someone to watch the boys while we go.  Have you decided which vehicle to buy?  I have no energy and my house is a disaster.  Actually much better since my dad's wife picked things up yesterday while they watched DS#2 and I took DS#1 to the doctor.  I am hoping to get the kitchen floor swept and mopped (with the swifter wet jet .)

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #311 - 03/26/08 03:35 PM

Oh, bummer on being sick.  I hope everyone gets healthy and stays that way!
Beth 

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coset
Message #312 - 03/26/08 03:52 PM

cosett:  Where in MN are you (if I may be that nosey)  I live in St Michael and grew up in Minneapolis.  We also need to do the vehicle thing, just hard to do since we would need someone to watch the boys while we go.  Have you decided which vehicle to buy?  I have no energy and my house is a disaster.  Actually much better since my dad's wife picked things up yesterday while they watched DS#2 and I took DS#1 to the doctor.  I am hoping to get the kitchen floor swept and mopped (with the swifter wet jet .)

kids and car shopping: I know that one........I really don't want to take the kids but now I am starting to wonder....ugh!  LOL  as far what to get.......I dunno...I need to see what they have and who will give a good value for the trade in..........I "should" go this weekend I suppose.....you and I are running out of time!  LOL

I am about 25 minutes from you in Becker. Too funny!

ohhhhhhhh my house is a disaster too.

I just brought the garbage out before it came and took a quick walk in one of my gardens only to find that the *bleeping* deer ate one of my brand new (2007) 4' shrubs down to about 18"............and my burning bush one down to nothing too (sigh)  I'd cry if I thought it would do any good.  I am too tired chasing the 2 kids and keeping them from fighting since it is spring break. ha!

I had hoped that the free MN Baseball Hall of Fame was something pretty cool up in STC but isn't what I had hoped so we will be home today after all.  LOL  That is okay. I prefer to save the gas anyway.....yesterday was errand day and deals and such and I got a TON done so I am happy to stay home today....Just carrying all that in wore me out!!  The sun is shining and that helps too!

Wanna come do my floors too?  I soooo need to sweep today.....LOL

[Virgil Showlion]

Wisconsin Beth
Message #313 - 03/26/08 04:03 PM

At least you have a trade in!  DH's car died in late Dec. and we've been carpooling in my truck ever since.  Unfortunately, the truck is NOT baby safe.  And it's been hard to car shop here in Milwaukee the last 3 months - too cold or too snowy.  I was hoping to hit carmax and a couple of other places on Sunday, but we're supposed to get another freaking 3-8 inches of snow this week, so that might be out.  I want to wander around on a Sunday when the dealers aren't there to harass us, but we might have to go when they're open because we've got about 7 weeks left in my pregnancy and I'm starting to get nervous about not having a vehicle we can bring DD home in!  

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MittenKitten
Message #314 - 03/26/08 04:09 PM



Cosett: Sorry it was hard enough to get my kitchen floors done BUT I did it.  Probably be the last time until sometime after baby.  That is too funny you are so close.  We are still trying to decide what year to get but figure it will be a minivan, probably town and country or grand caravan.  I want the stow and go seats so it will need to be 2006 or newer.  I just don't know when we will find the time.  I want to go look at one and see how everything works before making any final decisions.  We are the same way where will need to go to a dealership and get a decent tradein value as we won't be able to be without a vehicle. 

It is spring break here also (hmmm where is the spring part of that in the weather so I can send the kids outside to play or even waddle to the park?)  At least I feel better since DS#1 would have been out ill anyways so we didn't waste any money on tuition for preschool.  Sorry to hear of the deer thinking your vegetation is dinner.  Which hospital are you going to?  I am going to Methodist in St Louis Park.  I had a great experience with them with DS#2.

Beth:  Thanks for the well wishes.  It is such a pain to be pregnant, sick AND dealing with ill kids.  Even if I could sleep with the baby DS#1 is keeping me up.  Oh well this too shall pass.  When are you going to get your dresser?  Where are you going to go?  You may want to check out the thrift stores first.  I found a nice one for $35 for DS#2.  That is one thing we need to do before we get a new vehicle, go dresser shopping.  I am going to check out the thrift store and if we can't find anything go to Ikea.  If you end up buying a changing table not the end of the world, maybe check on freecycle to see if anyone has one sitting around or craigslist. 

 

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anciana
Message #315 - 03/26/08 04:14 PM

  Beth, have you tried looking online to figure out what you want and who has it so once you do need to go out, it won't be that bad. And you don't have to deal with dealers so much. That's what we've done searching for cars, we already had our minds set on some and just went to those places. That way you do most of your research ahead and you can practically just go to one place and buy the car.

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MittenKitten
Message #316 - 03/26/08 04:19 PM



msn is doing odd things, it lost my post then found it.  How does it do that? 

 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #317 - 03/26/08 05:01 PM

DH wants a changing table, so we registered for one.  After the dresser died, I suggested that we remove the changing table from the registry and add a dresser w/ changing space for DH.  He's ok with that, but it means another trip to babiesrus, because he's tall and needs to figure out what is a good height for him for changing.  And heck if I'm braving that store alone!  And if no one buys it for us, which is likely, we'll get a discount from the store.  I do want to check out my favorite furniture resale shop too though, just in case I find somethine good there.  

Yeah, I've seen some good sounding deals online at carmax.  The problem we have is we don't care what we end up with, as long as it's got 4 doors, gets decent gas milage and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.  It's hard to hold your ground with salespeople when you're at this point!  lol.  We need to spend some time online looking at cars together and figuring out just what we want we can or can't live with so we can get this over with.  

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coset
Message #318 - 03/26/08 05:18 PM



Mitten: hee heee.....I figure the sun is shining --- I kicked them outside with a bucket of bubbles!  LOL!!!!!!  it will be a multiple mitten day around here for sure!  hee hee

ohhhhhhh sleep...........man..........I got a call last night 2am from a wrong number (grrr) and he proceeded to argue with me and say all this awful profanity about how he did NOT have the wrong number.  I hung up.  He called back. and again. Finally I padded downstairs and put the phone on DND and went back to bed........but couldn't fall asleep until almost 4am.  UGH!!!!  I am just dragging -- even after my coffee!  I will take a ton of vitamins today and it will be better.  LOL

Hospital:  STC.  My OB practices up there and she specializes in Fibromyalgia and I really like her so that is cool.

Beth: I am due about the same time you are -- I hear ya about being nervous and need to get this stuff done!!  Yes, I would agree with Mitten....check freecycle.  When my DS was born I got two decent dressers which I painted to match his room.  One of them I rebuilt a bit to fit a changing pad on top (put sides on it, etc) as it was at the right height and WAAAALAAAH!  I had a great changing table that could store stuff underneath.

Car searching is helpful somewhat online....but I find that I need to sit in the seat, look at the back for room, etc.  I am so visual.  ha!  I do need to call the ins company and see what they charge for some of the ones I am considering...........and look up MPG for these things.....I don't have a ton of cash to play with so I have to be careful what I "fall in love with."  ha haa

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Holly Smith
Message #319 - 03/26/08 05:44 PM

I'm 34 weeks 4 days now.  I was doing so well with preparation work in January that I'm surprised I still have so much left to do now with only about a month left.  DH needs to do some organizing and moving furniture that I can't do, and he's been majorly procrastinating.  I'm washing the prefold diapers today to get them ready for baby.  I've got my infant care basics class tonight, and then we've got our childbirth classes this weekend.

I've been sick too!  I finally got the cold/flu that was going around in the middle of February and had it for three weeks. Then, just as I was getting over it, DH went to Washington to visit his sick grandmother and brought back another cold, which I have now had for almost three weeks.  He had the cold for two days.  This really sucks.  He started coughing last night, and I told him he's not allowed to make me sick again.

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MittenKitten
Message #320 - 03/26/08 09:13 PM



Holly:  I SO sympathize with you.  Doesn't it bite that while pregnant and sick you can take basically NOTHING!  ARG!  DS#1 is getting better with lots of energy and I just want to take a nap!  Not that I would sleep mind you.  You must be due May 3rd?

Are you working?  I think if I knew I would be where I am now I may have done cloth diapers for DS#2 but since this is our last I think I will stick with disposables.  Although I do use reusable swim diapers that I got on clearance.  That alone is saving us a ton!

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coset
Message #321 - 03/27/08 01:02 AM



whew!!  Okay I am taking a 5 with my "wine" --- hee hee.  I love this Archer Farms Italian Soda......Peach Pear is my favorite!!  The had it on sale for $2.11 for the bottle the other week. soooo good!!!  My splurge! Put it in a pretty wine glass and a little cherry juice and I am a happy pregnant chic!!!   I am soooo easy!!!  LOL

I never did get the floor swept!  BUT!  I spent some time in DD's room with a tape measure trying to figure out which way the furniture needs to go so I have a better idea.  I just need to cut down the legs of the loft bed so it just clears the dresser for underneath....even starting to wonder if I should just leave it as high as it is....BUT I don't want to try to make a bed that high up (change sheets, etc).  I think I have decided that I will not paint it white to match the rest of the pieces...it is light pine...I think I will just leave it the way it is. It will be fine (Of course tomorrow I will change my mind back to painting it...geeish!  I am so indecisive these days).  I also cleaned up 1/2 the garage so that was cool. It is getting so bad out there...too cold to move outside....who wants to crush boxes and the like when it was -10 and colder this winter.  we were just tossing them out there and everything else for that matter...can you tell we can't park in there??  LOL  I also went through a bunch of stuff to bring to the food shelf tomorrow on my way to the OB appt.  Need to get my WAG stuff together too as I drive past there to appt........need more Lysol deals....

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coset
Message #322 - 03/27/08 01:13 AM

Does anyone use a doula?  I never have but the first two births were so long and I started to get discouraged.  DH is getting ancy.  I have a friend who is a doula for a volunteer service...........thinking about paying her for #3.........

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New-Mummy
Message #323 - 03/27/08 03:08 AM



Hey ladies, I am a mess today.  Finally talked the world's most worthless doctor into doing an ultrasound because the baby has not been kicking well.

 

Extra amniotic fluid and the head is measuring 38 weeks 2 days when I'm 31 weeks 4 days along.

 

So, not good news.  Being referred to a specialist for further testing.

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boos_mom
Message #324 - 03/27/08 05:31 AM



NewMummy - I'm sorry that you had to be the one to force your stupid doctor to check on the baby!  But, it's a good thing that you did!  I hope your specialist will be MUCH better and more supportive and experienced and that the rest of your pregnancy will be better monitored so that baby will be fine.  I'd be a mess too if I were you, so stressed and pi$$ed at the doctor right now.  Take care of yourself and keep us posted.

I went to my 24 week check up.  I gained about 6 lbs. these past 4 weeks .  I have to do the 1-hour glucose screen.  I'll try to do it on Saturday.  I have a feeling I'll have to go through the 3-hour test again though.  We're supposed to do a weekend getaway next month, so if I'm on a restricted diet, that will be kind of junk for me on our vacation....  Oh well.  My tummy feels huge, and I've got 3 more months to go.  At least baby seems to be doing well so far.  

 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #325 - 03/27/08 03:05 PM

Oh, New Mummy, I'm sorry to hear that.  Keep us posted and keep nagging at your stupid doctor.  

I can't believe I have 7 weeks to go.  My tummy feels like a drum already, I don't know how my body's going to expand any more!  

There is a pregnancy board here on MSN - it's under Lifestyles.  I've found the May 2008 dd ladies to be helpful, in case anyone else likes having a baby board to check with.  

Beth

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coset
Message #326 - 03/27/08 06:39 PM



New Mummy ---- stand yer ground, hang in there and keep us posted....

Had an OB appt today ..........am a firm 33 weeks dilated to 1 and 70% effaced.  And one other word: possible breech (okay 2 words)  Baby did some flipping around in there...still have time to get that straightened out.  Will do an ultrasound next visit to be sure.

Beth: thanks for the note on the May 2008 board.

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New-Mummy
Message #327 - 03/27/08 11:00 PM

Ok - quick update.  I am so much relieved right now it's not even funny.  My mother found another maternal-fetal specialist at her hospital who can see me Tuesday at 9 am after ridiculous doctor's office told me that it would be 2 weeks before "their" specialist could see me.  It will be out-of-pocket then reimbursed, they literally just stole this guy from a big hospital in Minnesota last week so I will be one of his first patients down here, he's not in network with any insurance yet.  But I called my boss, let her know what's going on, and she offered me a paycheck advance so I can pay it out of pocket.  No official benefits at this job, but boy she has come through for me in a very tight spot right now.  I'm extremely grateful, I don't know what I could have done without that except waited and worried myself sick, then probably go in for the c-section day after we confirm the diagnosis...also this new doctor's office has scheduled the same day for me to see a lactation consultant to talk about preemie feeding and tour the NICU in case of so I can be ready.

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boos_mom
Message #328 - 03/27/08 11:38 PM

NewMummy - Wow, great news!  I don't think I could wait 2 weeks to see a specialist either since it's such an extreme situation.  The specialist already sounds so much better and more sensitive to the needs of the patients.  I hope everything goes okay, even if you do have to deliver baby early.  Your boss also sounds very understanding!  Sending positive energy/thoughts to you and your family. 

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coset
Message #329 - 03/28/08 12:24 AM



NewMummy: that is wonderful news!!!!  Well....maybe not the part about a great doc leaving MN () but the rest is fabulous!!!  Total kuddos for your boss and that that new place will help you get a plan in place just in case.  SOOO good!!!

 

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livingalmostlarge
Message #330 - 03/28/08 12:28 AM

New-Mummy, good luck and best wishes.

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Holly Smith
Message #331 - 03/28/08 12:39 AM

Are you working?  I think if I knew I would be where I am now I may have done cloth diapers for DS#2 but since this is our last I think I will stick with disposables.  Although I do use reusable swim diapers that I got on clearance.  That alone is saving us a ton!

Yes, May 3.  It's creeping up on me!

I graduated from college (I worked part-time coaching debate at my old junior college) last May.  I was looking for jobs over the summer, but I abandoned my search when I got pregnant.  I honestly didn't think it would only take two months.  Someone emailed me about a high school that needed a debate coach, so that's what I've been doing now.

In the fall, I'll be headed back for grad school.  I have a BA in history, which is essentially useless, and I want to be a college professor anyway.  I'm going to try to get some kind of fellowship, which shouldn't be a problem considering my grades and honors during my undergraduate.  I'll need daycare twice a week, so I'll have to find some disposables I can live with for those days.  Otherwise, I'll be home with the baby (doing homework at least some of the time, I'm sure), so the cloth will work fine.  As well as being so economical!

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Susan in Texas
Message #332 - 03/28/08 04:10 AM



New Mummy,

Please keep us posted.  There are lots of positive thoughts headed your way.

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MittenKitten
Message #333 - 03/28/08 03:15 PM



New Mummy:  Yes keep us posted.  YIKES!  Sending good thoughts and wished your way.  Hopefully with the specialist you can ditch your current doctor.   Which hospital in MN did your specialist come from?  At least you will be reimbursed and DON'T have to wait the 2 weeks!  Nothing like a little bit of stress you don't need!

Somehow they find a way to expand. I am now at the waddling phase.  Oh and the not sleeping phase.  Good friends with the bathroom etc.  Last night I actually got to sleep at 11 pm.  1 am DS#1 was in the extra bed in our room moaning etc.  Finally got him some medicine but only got about an hour of sleep after that.  ARG! 

Beth:  How often do you have to do the glucouse screenings now?  I feel for you there.  I hated doing the one!

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MittenKitten
Message #334 - 03/29/08 05:45 PM

Was it something I said?  Hope everyone is doing well today

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boos_mom
Message #335 - 03/29/08 07:14 PM

mitten - it was me doing the glucose screening.  Just took it this morning.  The syrup still tastes weird.  Took me a couple of minutes to drink that small bottle!  I'll probably hear from my OB this week whether I will need to do the 3-hour test.  Normally, around here, you just do the 1 hour test at around 24-28 weeks.  But, 1st pregnancy, I had a higher reading at my 1-hour screening, so I went on to do the 3-hour test (4 pokes - baseline, 1 hr, 2 hr, & 3 hr readings).  The junk thing is that I have small, hard to find veins, so if the technician isn't seasoned, I turn into a pin cushion or they collapse my veins, which is a big problem if you need 4 draws on the same day!  I hope to get a good technician again if I must do the 3 hour test.  The guy was so good, it didn't even hurt when he poked me.  I hope he's still working!

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coset
Message #336 - 03/31/08 08:59 PM



We got a vehicle that fits 3 car seats!!!  Well, we found it on Saturday and will drop off a check tomorrow due to weather and pick up the vehicle.  Mitten: don't you just LOVE this spring weather?!??!!?  I just don't want to see 7-9" of snow for today..........ugh.

 

Anyway, ended up with a great deal on a 2006 Town and Country after trade-in and tax refund.  I am relieved and pleased.  It isn't everything I wanted but it is certainly everything I need right now.   

 

Hope all is well!

[Virgil Showlion]

MittenKitten
Message #337 - 04/01/08 05:35 PM



Cosett:  Where did you find it?  May I ask the cost?  That is very similar to what I am thinking of down to the year.  I still think you may be my twin .  And yeah love the extra snow in spring (hear the sarcasm) I SO want to have nice weather and be able to go outside and play (or for me to at least be able to take the kids outside and watch.)

Special ed people were out here to look at DS#2 and evaluate him.  Now they will go run the results but it looks like he will qualify for Special Ed services for Developmental Delay (DD) AND Speech Therapy.  Mixed feelings about it but not surprised at all.  He will be 2 in May so for the first year a teacher will come out once a week to work with him (and me to help him.) Then they will put him in preschool when he turns 3 (the pick up and drop off sure will be nice.)  I am very glad I worked with the special ed paperwork for the largest MN school district.  Gives me an idea of my rights and what to expect.  These are the two labels that are easiest to "fix".  The DD label they have to either get him where he needs to be by the age of 7 or put him in a more specific catagory.  I know he is smart but he needs to catch up. 
Why is parenting so hard?

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coset
Message #338 - 04/01/08 08:05 PM



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Too funny (well if your bday is in May then it just might be scary!!  hee hee)!!!!! We went to Dan's in Big Lake.  I have heard soooo many good things about them -- they are smaller and very personable and fair (!).  We had also hit the Monticello dealerships (blach).  Dan's is located on Hwy 10 right next to Coborns.  Check them out!!!  We paid about $16k for it.............very low miles and still some warranty. There was a 2005 T&C there, too, for a bit more $ because it had a few more bells and whistles which I would have loved....but I just couldn't justify it.....

Snow and nice weather: (sigh) YES!!!   or we will be delivering in a snowstorm at this rate!!!  ugh. Yeah, I more like SAW the sarcasm!!!  It was dripping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want my front garden planted before I go to the hospital.  LOL  Then I can come home and sit on my new rocking chairs (I hope!) on the deck and rest to the sound of robins..........(dreaming)  I did see a TON of them yesterday morning before the snow started.

Awww....yeah all those parenting details......ya know we have had comments about DS (2.5) and his speech.   He was a very late talker --- but I think DD's (6.5yo) enthusiasm had something to do with that.....but he is hard to understand sometimes and I am with him all the time......even DH will look at me and say "WHAT did he say?!?!?"  One day at a time girlfriend!!!!!

You'd be proud though -- I remembered through my preggo brain to call the plow guy and say DON'T COME HERE for this last storm!  Saved $40 to put towards diapers.  hee hee  I also went out today and registered at Target so I could get the $20 gift card for free.  I was thrilled!!!!!  It was so much fun too!!!  Much more fun than with the first child as I had no idea!!  LOL  I never did it with #2 and so this was a good time....of course I was scanning diapers and formula too!  ha ha!  too funny!!

Have you ever used a doula, BTW?

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MittenKitten
Message #339 - 04/01/08 08:24 PM



Cosett:  What is the deal with registering at Target and getting a GC?  I may have to do that.  Do you need a coupon or anything?  I could buy diapers with the GC LOL!

No never had a doula.  My births have been normal, just give me the epidural and we are good to go.  Back labor killed me with DS#2.  What does a doula do exactly?  Help coach?  Does insurance cover it? 

Great job on cancelling the plow guy.  Our driveway is already melted. 

I started the eval with DS#2 now since I know there are issues and I didn't want to deal starting it with a brand new baby.  He literally does not speak at all.  Cute little guy though. 

I am exhausted AND I have an appointment this evening to show a house.  Which  may lead to listing a house....... AND within the next two weeks my sister is going to want to list her house as they are moving to NC. (At least we knew this BEFORE we bought the new to us vehicle.)

Did Bills give you a good trade in value?  Would be great if we could end up even.  We have some of our tax return to use but the more we can keep of that the more that can go to finishing the basement for a room for my stepson who is 11.  And of course put an amusement room down there.  If we weren't having the baby I would be putting that money into savings but oh well.

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coset
Message #340 - 04/01/08 08:50 PM



Mitten: I traded for a coupon that says to bring your new baby registry to customer service and they will give you a $20 GC. Ask around you might find a good deal on one.  I think the coupon was a home mailer and expires 4/12 or 4/16

Doulas: yeah kinda like a coach.....would help DH through the stages and coach on what would be good then and so on.  I seem to have very long labors (#2 I was on pitocin for 2 days....shudder) and we both get frustrated.  Yeah, back labor with both.  ugh.

Ha!  Our driveway is MUD!  LOL

Whew!  I hope you can get a little rest before showing that house.  I feel for you!  I am just beat -- so

much for 30 minutes on my feet and 20 minutes on my butt today!!!!!

Dan's (not bills -- ) gave us a good trade in, yeah.  Just down from blue book really which is fair since it needs a few things done to it -- but nothing major.  Yeah we originally thought about getting an older van for around $10K somewhere else and save some $$ to put towards a few other things....but a reliable van seemed more important...EVEN with AAA Gold. 

Off to lie down for a spell before friends come over to bring supper and help with a few projects --- DH gone for a few days so trying to surprise him.

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MittenKitten
Message #341 - 04/02/08 05:50 AM



Cosett: So the Doula is for DH .  2 day labors ICK!  DS#1 my water broke, I did need some petocin but 16 hours labor 1/2 hour pushing.  Not bad, especially with the epidural.  DS#2 water broke, hospital didn't believe me, so worked that day on a real estate deal then the next at my second job (no longer have this job).  That night I started having contractions.  10 hours labor 15 minutes pushing.  More painful before the epidural though.  FUN FUN! 

Are you going to join us on the No spend thread? 

I almost wish the doc would tell me to rest.  How are you doing it all with DH gone and you supposed to be resting?  Hmmm I wonder where I could find that coupon.  I haven't gotten any mailing from Target lately. 

Boosmom:  Have you taken your next glucose screening.  I so HATE that stuff.  Plus then the baby moves tons from all the sugar. 

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coset
Message #342 - 04/02/08 05:13 PM



Mitten:  ha ha!  Yeah, she will be for him....though I am hoping for some benefits too!  LOL  She is actually a friend of ours from church who is trained to do this and volunteers for moms who have no support network, young, etc.  Never used a doula before and trying to figure out what they should cost.  She isn't telling me an amount and I want to offer her something.  The pushing part has always been good -- about 30 minutes or less but the dragging on to get there is the worst!!!

No Spend Thread: okay no laughing, but I can't seem to follow the logic of how it all works (since each person "makes up the rules") and I wouldn't remember to check in (that is the bigger thing).   I get that folks want to have days they don't spend -- DUH!! that part is easy.  hee hee  That isn't that hard around here as I don't leave the house much and only on-line shop when I find cheap bday or Christmas stuff on my list. So for me I think it isn't that I didn't spend anything for a bunch of days but rather that I didn't overspend -- we are getting into expensive school year time again.    So we'll see I guess!  Trying to pare down the things I have to remember to do as we get closer and I am supposed to be resting from here on out.  I know I have posted on other threads but then I can't find them on the list or there are so many pages (grocery!! hee hee) that I just can't keep up...too many other things on the "home to-do list." 

Coupon: ask on Grocery thread -- someone has seen them.  There were quite a few floating around for awhile. I got a "clipless coupon" mailing from Target last....I don't care for those and really hope they don't switch to them.  Speaking of Target....I assume you go to the ST in Rogers?  Do you know what their small Market Pantry OJ costs?  The kids like this brand and there are store qs for .50/1..................rumor has it that the Rogers store has small ones for .77 each as opposed to the the 1.19+ elsewhere.

Resting: ha....yeah, that is a small detail that is a challenge.  I got a free DVD player on freecycle since ours broke and I have to say that the Cars movie is a great nap opportunity!!!!!!!!!!

Boosmom: Will keep fingers crossed for you!  Mitten, I hated that stuff too.  I only had to do it with #1.  The other two the Doc let me eat a ton of jellybeans instead since that sludge made me so sick. The lab came out and asked how I was feeling.  Told them I felt like I needed to brush my teeth!!!!!!!!

[Virgil Showlion]

MittenKitten
Message #343 - 04/02/08 06:20 PM



I have issues keeping up with the grocery thread also.  Since I keep track of the no spend threads I do fine there.  I can understand where you are coming from.  I don't get out to spend much either with the boys.  I don't spend a lot but it keeps me from cheating on some days and buying an easy fast food lunch I really don't need. 

Just dropped DS#1 off at preschool and one of the moms asked if I was expecting.  Yeah JUST A LITTLE BIT LOL.  Nice gal she had a baby 6 months ago so is busy with her own stuff, just had to laugh at that one.  But she told me I looked good . 

I will check those out when I get to Target.  I try not to go too often as then I spend $$.  But I do want to get diapers for the new baby.  I have some but would like a couple more packages.  Then again CVS will be having a deal next week so I may buy them there.  We will see DS#2 also needs more so.... Always something isn't it? 

I am figuring out DS#1s schedule for summer and what to spend where.  Monticello ECFE is much cheaper then St michaels and not all that far so I may put him in swim lessons there in the evenings when DF can watch the other kids.  $28 in Monticello for the same program vs St Michaels $43?? 

BTW my e-mail address is mittenkittenwir @ gmail.com if you want to e-mail.  Although I think most others have abandoned this thread.

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Susan in Texas
Message #344 - 04/02/08 06:53 PM

No, I think it's been a slow month--most of the expecting ones are at the point of nothin' to do but wait.  And then New Mummy's news yesterday is pretty sobering.  All our maternal nightmares are looking us in the face right now, which doesn't encourage chatter.

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boos_mom
Message #345 - 04/02/08 07:31 PM



I agree with Susan.  I was practically in tears at work yesterday, and even today when I think about her situation. 

I haven't heard from the doc's office about the results of my test.  I called yesterday, but they hadn't received it yet, so they said they'd call if I need to do the 3-hour test.  That will be tough as kid has a dental appt. and dance class on Saturday AM which would be when I could do a 3 hour test.  We'll see if I get the call today. 

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coset
Message #346 - 04/02/08 08:15 PM

OH NO!!!  Bad news?  I missed it as I haven't been reading much other than this thread and my screen isn't showing any posts from her..............can someone share what happened??? 

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boos_mom
Message #347 - 04/02/08 08:37 PM

NewMummy Message #21 - 04/01/08 10:27 AM Hydranencephaly incompatible with life.  Will be off the boards for a while. 

The thread itself is here: 

 

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MittenKitten
Message #348 - 04/02/08 08:41 PM



OMG I totally missed it.  Poor gal!  Well my thoughts and prayers are with her.  Makes me want to cry for her.  Okay I will probably do so anyways.  Yes that definately puts a damper on things.

Thanks for the heads up ladies.

[Virgil Showlion]

coset
Message #349 - 04/03/08 03:18 AM

ohhhhhhhhhhh geeze................that is just awful..............

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #350 - 04/03/08 03:43 PM

I know, it's terrible.  And sort of makes me feel guilty for getting a thumbs up on the The Tadpole being healthy and on target this morning at my umpteenth u/s.  Stupid, I know.  
Beth

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MittenKitten
Message #352 - 04/03/08 05:39 PM



Beth:  Stay positive for yourself.  Let New Mummy's situation just make you appreciate yours all the more.  We all feel for her (every time I think of it I want to cry.)  Glad things went well for you. 

I am SO ready for my tadpole to become a guppy!  Eviction notice in process.  36 weeks and 1 day.  If there is a God she will be early.  Unnamed but early. 

Weather is nice here finally , for MN anyways.  Sunny and I am going to have DS#1 go outside and draw with caulk on the driveway. 

So I have been looking into summer programs for DS#1 (DS#2 isn't ready for anything).  Swimming in my town for the Red Cross program is $43 for 8 sessions during the day.  The town next to us (Monticello) has the SAME swim lessons 10 during the day or 8 in the evening for $28 for non district residents!  WHAT!!! AND a friend of mine thinks the other town has better instructors!  I figure I will do the evenings since then dad can watch the other 2 kids and I won't have to worry about them.

In addition I am thinking of putting him in T-Ball.  Next town once a week for 8 weeks is $15 including a tee shirt.  Here $46 for a ball program that meets 2xs a week for 5 weeks! (so 10 times.)  For the extra money I will probably do the T-ball thing in the next town.  (He is also in Karate so I am trying to make sure nothing overlaps.)   

I hope everyone is doing well today!

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #353 - 04/03/08 05:52 PM

Yeah, I definitely appreciate knowing that the Tadpole is healthy.  And she's still unnamed too Mitten, I can see DH and I in the delivery room saying how about Karen?  No, how about Fiona?  Probably won't happen as we've got 6 weeks or so to go.  
Beth

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bibliomaniagrl
Message #354 - 04/03/08 06:05 PM



I agree horrible news about New Mummy! 

 

I'm not sure I even want to continue this post...

 

I found out yesterday I'm having a girl.  We are wicked excited!  This is our first...any suggestions on what to and not to register for?

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coset
Message #355 - 04/03/08 06:45 PM



ohh I am just dragg'n today.............I have been wanting to go back to sleep since I put the oldest on the bus this morning.............(yawn)...and with such lovely weather I think I must really be "off" as I have been just waiting for this........Mitten: yes it is fabulous weather today --- last read the thermometer at 56.7 degrees ABOVE zero!! 

Beth: it is awful AND a healthy u/s for you is still great!  I go in for #3 u/s next week.  When are you due again? I have 6.5 weeks to go.

ohhh good -- I am not the only one with an unnamed peanut.  whew!  we just can't agree on names --- as usual.........

I still haven't pre-registered at the hospital yet (gulp) whoops........oh well!!!  I have tried calling but I get Vm so I left a message....tried online but apparently i need some special code....THAT is helpful.

Mitten: Monti is good for many things and, yes, they are cheaper by far.  STM/Rogers area has gotten quite spendy I hear.  Our oldest is also looking at T-Ball like last year -- ours is just $15 too for playing, tshirt, hat.....debating about soccer for her too....but maybe nothing.  Kinda nice to not have to run anywhere at all....especially with new one coming.

Bib: congrats!  as far as registering.....get a nice variety of prices and know that many of the "gizzmos" you really don't need.....like the wipes warmer and the diaper genie (those things get expensive...).......keep it simple and it will be much easier for you to get out the door on days.  Also, register with "further down the path" in mind....like for a potty chair and sippy cups, alllll sizes of onsies, etc.  It is helpful....I'd even toss some disposable diapers or formula canisters on there if you go that route.  People will NOT think you are nuts. 

Mitten: How many size 1 diapers are you stocking up on?  I can't even recall how many I used to go through in a day/week to know how much i have.  LOL  I get older and the memory is SHOT! LOL (BTW: I did email ya off board. )  Last baby was 8lb 9oz so we might be going up from there.  Might need to get some size 2 just in case!  ha!

 

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #356 - 04/03/08 06:46 PM

bibliomaniagrl, go and find a current edition of the book Baby Bargains (there's a website, but I've never been there).  The authors are parents and go thought what's necessary, what's not necessary and what other parents thought of the product.  It's broken down by item/category and includes a rating on what they (and the other parents) thought was the best product in that category and why.  

There's also a thread of the YM board started by I.love.elephants (or I.like.elephants I can't remember which) on what the actual costs involved in a pregnancy are - he got a couple pages into this thread here on WIR and couldn't get past the comments on the physical side of pregnancy we go though!  

Congratulations and good luck!
Beth

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coset
Message #357 - 04/03/08 06:49 PM

Bib: on another note.........there will be things you will want to pick up to have on hand for after delivery that you probably will not be registering for () such as Tucks Pads -- or at least a bottle of witch hazel for your bottom, breast pads -- also called nursing pads -- even if you don't nurse as they "catch" any milk coming out during the day so it doesn't leak through your shirts, etc.  I also appreciated having Cottonelle wipes close by and used to add Chamomile tea to the bath when I would soak my stitches.  SOOOO much lovely information....but stuff I wish I had known with #1 that I made sure I had on hand before delivery with #2....

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coset
Message #358 - 04/03/08 06:51 PM



"THE BAG"

okay girls -- what is going into your bag for the hospital??  What stuff can't you live without -- stuff you think you might need, etc.

For #2 I did two bags and that was helpful ...... bag 1 was for delivery and bag 2 was for the stay there....

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #359 - 04/03/08 06:54 PM

cosett, I'm due May 15th - 6 weeks to go!  I'm really hoping she'll be a week or two early, to be honest.  I'm tired of being pregnant, so she's probably be a couple of weeks late, just on general principle!  

Bib, also, MSN has a pregnancy board.  Go to the MSN homepage, click on Lifestyle, click on parenting.  I think you'd need to click on pregnancy/child birth (something like that anyway) further down the page, then click on pregnancy.  It looks like there's threads for each months due dates, plus any others people want to start.  I pop in a couple times a week to see how everyone's doing and to ask questions on the May 2008 due dates thread.  I tried a bunch of other pregnancy boards before I found that one, couldn't get comfortable with them.  

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #360 - 04/03/08 06:56 PM

Lord, we haven't even started with "The Bag" yet.  We did get a handout from the birth class on what to pack.  I'm more concerned with getting a car, getting the baby's room finished and getting the Thank You notes out from the shower!  

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jdnstl
Message #361 - 04/03/08 07:13 PM

Are birthing classes necessary? I just don't think DH will ever be off work early enough to do them.

ETA: I'd love to know what you include in the bag. I have several months to go but haven't even thought about it.

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MittenKitten
Message #362 - 04/03/08 07:16 PM



cosett:  I didn't get your e-mail.  can you try again mittenkittenwir @ gmail.com (I may have forgotten to include the wir part .)  No spaces.  For Xmas my mom bought me a large box of 1-2 diapers.  That mixed size.  So I think I have at least a months worth there.  The challenge is I have peanuts and will need some newborn diapers and only have 1 pack of those.  So I want to have some more on hand of those and will keep the receipt with them incase I need to exchange them later.  I think Newborn size lasted us 3 weeks, then we were into 1s and those lasted a month or two.  It is easier once they hit size 3 as I know usually a large box lasts us a month. 

Hospital Bag:  I pack some snacks, especially for when my kids come visit. Licorice, cheezits, fruit snacks, granola bars (need to buy a lot of it yet.)  Things that DF can eat.  I have my ipod packed, books, paper tablet, couple pens as people seem to steal mine.  chapstick, toiletries, and a change of clothes.  I will use their hospital gowns so mine don't get nasty.  Probably make sure my PDA and phone are charged.  My PDA has a lot of games on it so it doubles as entertainment.  Clothes for the baby.

Bib:  In the first couple of pages on this thread I posted what I felt was essential.  Definately go for the larger size clothing.  In fact I returned a lot of what I got and bought stuff for when DS#1 turned 2, 18 months etc.  Baby Bargains is an excellent resource.  If you want a lot of pink let everyone know it is a girl, just FYI it is a little harder to reuse the clothes if you have a boy the second time around.  Otherwise be pretty specific that you don't want girly colors! 

Beth:  If I remember correctly it was the whole bra issue that really put elephants over the edge LOL.  The joys of coming to an all/mostly women thread who are pregnant.  I also am SO ready to be done being pregnant.  Since this one is unexpected I was really set to be done from the beginning truth be told.  I may be stopping by a mexican restaurant on the way home from the hospital for a margarita!  This pregnancy just wasn't as easy as my other two.  I am hoping she comes 2 weeks early.  Now we will see what really happens.!

ETA:  Jdn:  I never did any of the parenting classes and I don't think we missed out on anything.  I did take the hospital tour and that was nice.  For DS#2 I was in a different hospital but my mom had surgery a few weeks before I had him so I went to their birthing ward and asked if they could just quick show me what was what.  I also never did the birthing classes.  I figure women have been giving birth for eons and I knew I wanted an epidural so I figured I would be fine and I was.

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Wisconsin Beth
Message #363 - 04/03/08 07:18 PM

Since neither DH or I have gone though a pregnancy, we think they're necessary for us!  But my older sister's first DD was born 7 weeks early, about 1 week before my sister was scheduled to start classes (this was about 14 years ago, if that matters.)  She managed fine with our SIL coaching her (Mom stood in the corner and tried to pretend she wasn't there).  I'm not sure if she took classes for her second DD or not.  

jdn, I'll try to type in the list tonight or tomorrow on this thread for you.  

Beth

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jdnstl
Message #364 - 04/03/08 07:49 PM

MK - You want a margarita & i want a double shot coffee shake from my fav local coffee shop!

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boos_mom
Message #365 - 04/03/08 07:58 PM



The bag - hmmm, with #1, I procrastinated and water bag ruptured.  Was at work, went home and packed the bag before going to the hospital.  I think I only did one change of clothes, undies, nursing bra.  I used  the hosptial gowns the whole time there.  Toiletries - toothpaste, toothbrush, skincare.  A sweater, in case it's chilly.  Definitely consider snacks (extra for during labor for DH).  A camera.  I didn't bring a whole lot of recreational things (books, ipods, etc.) as we had a frequent trail of visitors and you only get to stay 2 nights (and if you give birth before midnight, they'll still only do 1 more night, if there are no complications).  A change of clothes for the baby, baby blanket, and burp cloth.  The hospital gave us bottled formula in case we needed it, as well as some newborn diapers for your trip home.  The car seat should be installed before you leave the hospital - many hospitals check your carseat or won't discharge baby without seeing a carseat.

Birthing classes - it was nice to do for #1.  It was something DH really seemed to enjoy.  I think it was helpful, but we went kind of early, I was only like 6 months along, so I forgot some of the things by the time baby came.  But, some folks wait too late and never finish the class, so you have to figure out what's better for you.  I wouldn't mind doing a 1-day refresher class on breathing techniques, but I don't want to go through a 6-week class.  I'll try to see how bad the pain gets (maybe not so overwhelming if I don't get the pitocin???), but I will get the epidural if need be.  I pushed for over 1.5 hours and that was absolutely draining.

SIL gave birth over the weekend, and #3 was 8 lbs!  Her other two were 6 pounders.  She went to the "busy" birthing hospital and couldn't get the epidural b/c 6 women came in at the same time, so all 3 kids were no drugs, but it wasn't exactly by choice (although she may have gotten some painkillers via the I.V. drip).  I will be at a different hospital, specifically b/c the other is too busy and it just seems not so personable b/c they are so busy all the time.

 

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jdnstl
Message #366 - 04/03/08 08:03 PM

Someone mentioned registering with the hospital in advance. How far in advance? Don't you just go to the hospital your doc is associated? So why register?