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Post by maui1 on Jul 12, 2011 9:20:13 GMT -5
lets look at greece............the value of their life investments, in their country is being taken away, and they have NO control over it...........
want to bet on how many of them, are wishing that they had put their life investments in gold and silver, and not into things that their gov't pushed them into?
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Post by maui1 on Jul 12, 2011 9:51:01 GMT -5
Perhaps people are starting to realize that what counts right now are earnings and screw Europe and the EU. Their failure is our success.
wyz- if you think the usa lives in a world vacuum, you really are living in a dream world. if everything that is happening in the euro zone is bad.........then it also must mean that everything that we are doing in the usa is bad, as we are doing exactly the same thing.
the euro zone issues are easier to see because they are comprised of sovereign countries, but we are in the same place as the euro zone, if you replace italy with calif, or new jersey, and the fed with the eu.
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Post by decoy409 on Jul 12, 2011 9:59:17 GMT -5
maui1, simply some will never accept what you are showing them. But good luck all the same.
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Post by maui1 on Jul 13, 2011 10:41:55 GMT -5
Stocks rally as Bernanke vows to help economy The Fed chief says the central bank will step in if things get worse.
why does our gov't think it can fix things? 3 years and 3 trillion fiat dollars later, our gov't still has not learned that is can't fix, what it can't fix!
is our gov't that stupid as to risk the future of america, for what THEY THINK will help them get reelected?
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Post by maui1 on Jul 13, 2011 10:45:58 GMT -5
with the feds willingness to do qe-3, the markets and gold are off to the races.
imo- the markets for immediate greed, and gold for fear of the future.
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Post by decoy409 on Jul 13, 2011 10:47:18 GMT -5
maui1,hit it on the head there! It's all about the glammor of pole position and has little if anything to do with the common folks of America. Next door somebody stated the same thing and that they were not on the rep. or dem. side as they are the same peas in the pod. Or as I like to put it playing the old good cop bad cop theatre roll.
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Post by usaone on Jul 13, 2011 10:48:18 GMT -5
here are the facts........ the people in the markets are edge. when the market moves down with any momentum, the fall will be dramatic, as everyone will be thinking "this is it"! - just the opposite of what you guys are saying about gold and silver. i don't see that with gold and silver......as everyone knows it is measured against an arbitrary valued, fiat, currency, that is solely based on 'public confidence'. holding silver and gold, is security, and can not be taken away. the value of your paper money and paper stocks, can be taken away, with loss of confidence, which can be the result of many reasons, to many to mention. What facts do have to back that up? The market has gone down several times and rebounded very well...including today. Frank and Bruce said 1775 on Gold and that looks correct so far.
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Post by maui1 on Jul 13, 2011 10:52:27 GMT -5
What facts do have to back that up?
my facts are............. that i saw it written somewhere..........
ya..........i wrote it, read it, and then posted it here.
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Post by maui1 on Jul 13, 2011 10:56:41 GMT -5
Frank and Bruce said 1775 on Gold and that looks correct so far.
frank- lately, since proven wrong....over and over again, just says what is obvious. how can you say gold will plunge from 1300 on one day and the next say, it is going up to 1775?
and you.........will buy a turd from frank- if that is what he is selling today.
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Post by usaone on Jul 13, 2011 10:56:48 GMT -5
Opinion.....nothing wrong with that.
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Post by kadee79 on Jul 13, 2011 11:22:58 GMT -5
YES!
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Post by maui1 on Jul 13, 2011 11:28:07 GMT -5
Quote:is our gov't that stupid as to risk the future of america, for what THEY THINK will help them get reelected? YES!
i hope everyone in america realizes it, and votes out every last one of these assholes in 2012
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Post by silverguy25 on Jul 13, 2011 11:33:14 GMT -5
Yeah, right. Because everyone in America is completely in touch with reality : (
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Post by usaone on Jul 13, 2011 11:39:16 GMT -5
We just voted everyone out in 2006.
Then we voted everyone out again in 2008.
Then we voted everyone out in 2010.
So if we vote everyone out again in 2012 that will help?
Nope.
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Post by maui1 on Jul 13, 2011 11:55:11 GMT -5
85 out of 635 is everyone?
usa- do you have access to a dictionary?
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Post by maui1 on Jul 13, 2011 14:22:51 GMT -5
the dow looks like it might finish the day down, off its highs of up 150. silver and gold way up for the day.
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Post by usaone on Jul 13, 2011 14:29:18 GMT -5
But off there highs like the stock market.
Markets still up 60. Not bad.
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Post by Driftr on Jul 14, 2011 11:56:24 GMT -5
Well just put about $300,000 into a basket of big cap American Iconic product nice dividend paying companies plus four mutual funds for a relative. Which ones and what %'s assigned to each?
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Post by maui1 on Jul 14, 2011 12:02:48 GMT -5
moldering......good word, that is descriptive of an even less than kissing your sister event
xyz- your are the brave one. i would not touch that with a ten foot pole, especially with my knowledge that the stock market is going to "plunge". lol
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Post by Driftr on Jul 14, 2011 13:12:40 GMT -5
Thanks. Lots of nice names there. GIS is actually one I've been toying around with adding in the future.
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Post by maui1 on Jul 15, 2011 9:46:14 GMT -5
xyz- this morning i thought you had Clorox in the group you bought yesterday..........sorry it wasn't
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Post by maui1 on Jul 15, 2011 11:13:53 GMT -5
let me admit something.......but you have to promise you won't tell anyone.
when i was 28 (over 30 years ago), i went to ef hutton, and talked to someone there about buying silver. i bought 1000 ozs at about 4 bucks, but more importantly, what i didn't do, was put that 4000 bucks into a stock she was recommending me to buy, instead of buying silver. that stock was msft.
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Post by maui1 on Jul 15, 2011 11:34:46 GMT -5
when i was 28 (over 30 years ago),
right......i was wrong, i was still in colo then.......must have been 86/7, as i was in hi at the time
i can remember......i even got mad at her as she seemed pushy as she must have had a better sales commission on the stock, than selling the metal
i have done a lot of good things over the years, but i also have done some stupid things as well.
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Post by maui1 on Jul 15, 2011 12:21:26 GMT -5
that silver is worth $38,000 25 years later
ouch!
could have been millions.....it was a gift for my wife at the time.....she sold at $13 a few years later, if i can remember.
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Post by maui1 on Jul 15, 2011 12:24:08 GMT -5
maybe not......she is ex now.....so i guess it turned out ok........i would have really been pissed if she got msft, and we got divorced.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 13:00:11 GMT -5
wxyz
love the list with one exception
Apple scares me......if owned i would keep, but buying at this level with health of Steve Jobs is risky in my opinion. Rest are tried and true good dividend companies...solid earnings, solid balance sheets.
Nice composition.....
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jul 15, 2011 22:41:13 GMT -5
I don't want to steer this away, but I have to say maui1 wxyz is a
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Post by smackdown on Jul 17, 2011 7:05:01 GMT -5
Anything in cash? At least 10,000 points of the Dow are owned by you identically-invested zombies. Doesn't bode well for when things go to Hell. Kind of like a 6th floor fire, only one exit and the door opens to flames and fire in the well. When you JUMP, it's a long way down to really hard ground.
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Post by frankq on Jul 17, 2011 10:07:28 GMT -5
Anything in cash? At least 10,000 points of the Dow are owned by you identically-invested zombies. Doesn't bode well for when things go to Hell. Kind of like a 6th floor fire, only one exit and the door opens to flames and fire in the well. When you JUMP, it's a long way down to really hard ground. We're still waiting for your DOW 2000 prediction to materialize.
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Post by smackdown on Jul 17, 2011 11:55:10 GMT -5
"We're still waiting for your DOW 2000 prediction to materialize"
Hope you're holding your breath.
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