deziloooooo
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 18:17:42 GMT -5
So you feel he would fail a test that you can't describe. I think your pushing me ..why? It isn't up to me.. you brought up just one point, and it's true..no support because. I would love to see him run, he won't and I don't beleive the pubs would allow him to be a candidate for them, simple reason they have to many who walk around with a stick some where, have to fulfill all those little things that are so important to Republicans. Look when McCaine ran, had the nomination and before Palin was chosen as the VP running mate, campaign going no where. The Religious right, not happy, not voting, the ultra right not giving money as they always do, staying home, not happy Pubs have to meet to many criteria, and for the last time, for to many of your people, better to lose the election rather then have some one be the nominee that doesn't fit the majority of the litmus test head on, very little lee way. Way you all are..where as more most dems..we go with the flow. IMHO
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Post by cme1201 on May 31, 2011 18:24:56 GMT -5
I am pushing you, for an answer. Thank you for that.
I can agree with a majority of what you said, the religous right expect a canidate who holds there ideal, as well as the far right. Which are neither a majority of the republican party, they just happen to be most staunch at turning out to vote.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:35:06 GMT -5
Dezi-- the "way we all are" ? How does that work? At this point I vote conservative, and am not conservative on ALL issues, just the ones that can have the most impact. Tell me how we all think.
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Post by cme1201 on May 31, 2011 19:06:19 GMT -5
Dezi-- the "way we all are" ? How does that work? At this point I vote conservative, and am not conservative on ALL issues, just the ones that can have the most impact. Tell me how we all think. pointless jabbing krickett. not really needed.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 19:16:42 GMT -5
Yes, sir...
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Post by ameiko on May 31, 2011 22:15:37 GMT -5
What do you think? Moderate, fiscally conservative Republican. Trounces Obama in experience both domestically and abroad. Completely neutralizes the "race card". Decorated veteran with appeal to moderate Democrats. Definitely not. Given his stance on certain issues like abortion (it's been a while since I considered him a possible candidate), he would alienate too much of the base. Also, he stabbed the GOP in the back by supporting Obama over his party. He clearly made his decision based on Obama's skin being closer to his and then went begging for a job in the adminstration to boot! No, Powell made his bed and now he can lie in it. No way I will support a turncoat who puts race above experience and party loyalty; we don't need yet ANOTHER racist in the oval office!
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 22:27:28 GMT -5
What do you think? Moderate, fiscally conservative Republican. Trounces Obama in experience both domestically and abroad. Completely neutralizes the "race card". Decorated veteran with appeal to moderate Democrats. Definitely not. Given his stance on certain issues like abortion (it's been a while since I considered him a possible candidate), he would alienate too much of the base. Also, he stabbed the GOP in the back by supporting Obama over his party. He clearly made his decision based on Obama's skin being closer to his and then went begging for a job in the administration to boot! No, Powell made his bed and now he can lie in it. No way I will support a turncoat who puts race above experience and party loyalty; we don't need yet ANOTHER racist in the oval office! Forgetting your feelings of personal what ever with Powell..and he is NOT interested I know so it's a subjective question I ask, the actual happening, it is not .... IF he was interested , he is still a registered republican , he does support many of those items that Republicans hold dear..and after Polls, some campaigning, the Polls indicate that by far and wide he would be the best candidate to win the Presidency from the Republican side, and polls indicate a good , very good chance of beating the POTUS for the grand prize, do you think the Republicans would go along with having him run as their candidate, no change of ideas, abortion, what ever, just take him as he is..to get the prize, best shot and a good shot of winning, didn't say a great one, your going against a sitting President, so a good chance..what say you, may I ask.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 31, 2011 22:36:03 GMT -5
First, he's a liberal. Second, he endorsed Obama- so what's his case to replace him now? Third, the race card isn't neutralized EVER with liberals or the press.
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Post by burnsattornincan on May 31, 2011 22:51:42 GMT -5
do you think the Republicans would go along with having him run as their candidate
It doesn't matter what the Republicans want. It is the day of the Tea Party or worse (better in reality). Some huge changes are coming and the result will be riots and many dead. I will have to look into Mr. palmbeachpaul's thread concerning this starting to happen now. There is no possible way things will keep going relatively normal as they have been for the last 3 years since the culmination of bad fiscal policies roughly beginning FDR's "New Deal". 5 generations of welfare, out of control unions demanding unsustainable salary/benefits, unmitigated litigation of any purpose and a land of zombies on prescription drugs. Its over.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 23:02:05 GMT -5
So no one will tackle my scenario? The idea is, to get back into power, you have a candidate who is electable over any that has shown and in this scenario by polls, no others have a have a shot ..except him, Powell, and I realize he doesn't meet all the litmus tests that a real donkey head would like in their candidate but he is of your party, and is electable , some flaws but he is a Republican , has many of the same thoughts on many things ...so?
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 1, 2011 6:36:36 GMT -5
For what it is worth I like the General and think he was one of our best Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs..And I also believe with every once of my being he would have been a much better president than Obama who has been a complete disaster and utter failure IMHO so deal with it or take up your complaints with this opinion with my legal team which is headed by Mr Burns of course..
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 1, 2011 13:21:18 GMT -5
While I won't go along with the "complete disaster and utter failure", and I would have had to hear more speeches and interviews of how he feels about many topics, ones that the POTUS would be involved with, I believe he would have been a very , very good POTUS , understanding he might have been a supporter of legislation that I am not in favor of, it comes with the territory, disagreements with the populace are what it is, hoping they are right in their decisions and we, the populace are wrong , especially in the "big picture" rating of these things, For example as a example, if he was in favor of continuing the Bush tax cuts, my feelings on , as known here, makes so little sense, yadda Blah, been done, but if so, then so be it...I would live with it and not change my support if over all I felt he is doing a good job in the role of POTUS. That is whee I feel I and most middle to the left, [not saying ultra lefts, their way is their way or the highway , same as the ultra rights, same thing in beliefs] vs most conservatives. They , IMHO, are not able to easily accept differences with the leadership. While not as extreme as the ultras , they are much closer in their feelings toward leadership then the more moderates, which the middle to the left are. Hey, I am the expert on those since I am one, thus speak from authority. One of our motto's, we have many , " live and let live ". another is "Go with the flow ", and another.."don't sweat it " or 'so be it, [sigh] " and.... ; ;D
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