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Post by Colleenz on May 31, 2011 7:51:01 GMT -5
What do you think?
Moderate, fiscally conservative Republican.
Trounces Obama in experience both domestically and abroad.
Completely neutralizes the "race card".
Decorated veteran with appeal to moderate Democrats.
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Post by busymom on May 31, 2011 7:53:06 GMT -5
I think he'd be an improvement over some of the "new" candidates. AND, most people respect him. Do you think he'd run?
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Post by Colleenz on May 31, 2011 7:54:49 GMT -5
Sadly I believe he said he would not run, but he would sure stand out versus the rest of the field right now. Maybe we can start a write in campaign
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Post by cme1201 on May 31, 2011 7:55:06 GMT -5
no.
Powell showed his colors when he turned his back on the party, instead off stepping up and being the leader that many felt we needed to originally go against Obama. Powell is not the answer, unless you want Obama Light.
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Post by Bluerobin on May 31, 2011 8:11:14 GMT -5
Snerdley hit the nail on the head!
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 8:12:20 GMT -5
We had this same discussion in 2008 and I started the thread but Colin Powell's wife issued a letter to the public and said her husband had done enough for his country after over 40 years of military and government service and she didn't want him to run for president.....also as you can imagine there were a lot of death threats at the Powell's which had Mrs Powell very upset.
You can google this item and check it out if you care to..or you can trust my integrity to post a truthful comment again....
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Post by Colleenz on May 31, 2011 8:20:41 GMT -5
I trust your integrity PI - I had also thought I had read somewhere that he would not run for personal reasons. The USA is in a much different (dire) spot than we were in 2008. I did not know if that might change the Powell's perspective on the matter.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 8:32:50 GMT -5
I trust your integrity PI - I had also thought I had read somewhere that he would not run for personal reasons. The USA is in a much different (dire) spot than we were in 2008. I did not know if that might change the Powell's perspective on the matter. The General is @ 75 years old and I was told by some old buds that he was giving speeches to the military and veterans groups and said when this question comes up that he will NOT serve in the government again and I think Obama wanted him to head up some groups and he respectively refused.. Thanx for trusting my integrity which has been called into question lately here by our resident critics who have nothing else to do but challenge each and every word by anyone who is NOT a Liberal Democrat which is sad..
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Post by billisonboard on May 31, 2011 9:01:12 GMT -5
CHEESE.COM - All about cheese!.Cheese - everything you want to know about it. Search cheese by name, by types of milk, by textures and by countries. Alphabetical list of cheeses - Cheese by names - Cheese by countries - Cheddar www.cheese.com/ - Cached - Similar
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Post by cme1201 on May 31, 2011 9:05:51 GMT -5
CHEESE.COM - All about cheese!.Cheese - everything you want to know about it. Search cheese by name, by types of milk, by textures and by countries. Alphabetical list of cheeses - Cheese by names - Cheese by countries - Cheddar www.cheese.com/ - Cached - Similar I am guessing that you do not like the topic there bills and would rather talk all things cheese?
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Post by billisonboard on May 31, 2011 9:12:49 GMT -5
CHEESE.COM - All about cheese!.Cheese - everything you want to know about it. Search cheese by name, by types of milk, by textures and by countries. Alphabetical list of cheeses - Cheese by names - Cheese by countries - Cheddar www.cheese.com/ - Cached - Similar I am guessing that you do not like the topic there bills and would rather talk all things cheese? Topic is fine. Sometimes cheese is just a nice compliment to other items being served up.
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Post by cme1201 on May 31, 2011 9:14:52 GMT -5
I am guessing that you do not like the topic there bills and would rather talk all things cheese? Topic is fine. Sometimes cheese is just a nice compliment to other items being served up. So where is the wine? or Whine?
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Post by billisonboard on May 31, 2011 9:16:42 GMT -5
Topic is fine. Sometimes cheese is just a nice compliment to other items being served up. So where is the wine? or Whine? Always in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on May 31, 2011 9:26:35 GMT -5
I don't want a candidate to "neutralize the race card," I want the best candidate. I don't feel like catering to people (from any side of the political spectrum) who will or won't vote for a candidate based on race or gender.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 9:28:45 GMT -5
Powell showed his colors when he turned his back on the party, instead off stepping up and being the leader that many felt we needed to originally go against Obama.
I don't think that's exactly true. His wife (as I remember) was under psychiatric care at the time. Rather than have the mud slinging that would come up & the further pressure on her I believe that he took his name out of the running. Let's face it, politics is a dirty game where stuff that didn't happen will be brought up & with something like psychiatric care in the backgound there is no way that it wouldn't become one of the main issues of the race.
The reason that I remember it so well is because I thought he was a viable candidate & would have voted for him.
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Post by billisonboard on May 31, 2011 9:33:28 GMT -5
I trust your integrity PI - I had also thought I had read somewhere that he would not run for personal reasons. The USA is in a much different (dire) spot than we were in 2008. I did not know if that might change the Powell's perspective on the matter. The General is @ 75 years old and I was told by some old buds that he was giving speeches to the military and veterans groups and said when this question comes up that he will NOT serve in the government again and I think Obama wanted him to head up some groups and he respectively refused.. ... A life well spent. A (semi-)retirement well earned. May he enjoy the remainder of what will hopefully be a long life in whatever way he sees best. (we need a "salute" icon).
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 9:47:53 GMT -5
Powell showed his colors when he turned his back on the party, instead off stepping up and being the leader that many felt we needed to originally go against Obama.
The General did a lot of good things when he was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and has been spending a lot of his time lately visiting our wounded....I read his autobiography a few years ago, and he had a rough time climbing the ladder in the Army by rising from a Lt to 4 Star General because of his race and not being a graduate of the US Army Military Academy at West Point...he was in the ROTC but later did some good things in Nam that helped to punch his ticket for future promotions...so anyhow I am a big fan of General Powell and wish he had been our president instead of Bush or Obama..
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Post by b2r on May 31, 2011 9:58:12 GMT -5
General Colin Powell endorses Obama and shoots down McCain
Maybe he's happy with his choice and would throw the election.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 10:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by b2r on May 31, 2011 10:00:57 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 10:10:43 GMT -5
This message has been deleted. OOOOOOOOOOps weird things here today. Powell said in his heart of hearts to Larry King he could not get himself to vote for Palin as VP and didn't think she would be a good president...
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Post by b2r on May 31, 2011 10:18:08 GMT -5
Powell said in his heart of hearts to Larry King he could not get himself to vote for Palin as VP and didn't think she would be a good president...
Yeah, I'm sure that's it.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 11:01:24 GMT -5
no. Powell showed his colors when he turned his back on the party, instead off stepping up and being the leader that many felt we needed to originally go against Obama. Powell is not the answer, unless you want Obama Light. Not dissing you CME but I believe your comment shows why he would not be a candidate for the Pubs, to many would feel the way you do, doesn't toe the "Party Line "..and just not going to cut it. He could get away as a Democrate..the party is much more diverse. It has the far left, [to extreme for me } and the middle to the left, me, and also middle a bit to the right, a diverse group, what we are use to and can handle, and that is just not how Republicans are. You have the extreme true, the new Tea Party, I know they say they are "A" political, just find themselves running on Republican ticket, and the rest...and Powell would not fir in. You all really are more comfortable marching in lock step to the same drummer, granted a few beats off center from time to time but then the beat goes right back on, the same. Nothing wrong with it, who you all ae, and if comfortable with it, so be it. I think he would have been a fine candidate and if he did run on the pubs ticket, yes I would have been VERY, VERY interested in hearing what he has to say, as I know many dems would and definitly the independents, and in a way, I am sorry we are not going to get that opportunity. Personally I feel it may be the country's loss, yet I can understand why he did not take that road....unfortunatly for us I believe. PS: I do believe I remeber the family issue back then, and that is not inconsequently. The man is not a political, usually that is where you get that drive and so many times the spouse, IF that as the reason, who knows for sure, is either on board or not but understands the situation , so might climb on reluctantly, but climbs on for the ride. Her duty of..in this case, she climbed on over 40 years ago to be the spouse of a career military , a military wife, possible her own career too, not sure , but the spouse of a military careerist. Whether enlisted or officer, you have to be a special type of person, and my admiration for all those who make that choice and committment, with what they go through, thinking of you particularly Molly as your the only one I know who is at the moment, they are special, they are not the norm. That is what his, Powell's wife climbed on for, and now 40 years or more later..if has no desire for what ever reason, to climb on another wagon, even if there are no problems, more power to her.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 11:08:33 GMT -5
Powell said in his heart of hearts to Larry King he could not get himself to vote for Palin as VP and didn't think she would be a good president... Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Here's the comments Powell made on the Larry King Show about Sarah Palin which were very kind IMHO Former Secretary of State Colin Powell called former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin "a fascinating figure," but said "I don't think she was ready to be president of the United States last fall when she was named the vice presidential candidate."
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Post by cme1201 on May 31, 2011 11:08:51 GMT -5
Dezi nothing you write would I take as a dis, What you need to do is reread the OP.
What do you think?
Moderate, fiscally conservative Republican
Powell could never run as a Republican, as he showed his colors in 2008. Yes he may beable to run as a democrat yet he will not try and put Obama in his place, he will 72 this year, rather old an 1 foot in the grave (at least that is what we heard in regards to McCain's age in most of the "prosperous" left leaning magazines that lead up to election nite '09)
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 11:22:28 GMT -5
Dezi nothing you write would I take as a dis, What you need to do is reread the OP. What do you think? Moderate, fiscally conservative Republican Powell could never run as a Republican, as he showed his colors in 2008. Yes he may beable to run as a democrat yet he will not try and put Obama in his place, he will 72 this year, rather old an 1 foot in the grave (at least that is what we heard in regards to McCain's age in most of the "prosperous" left leaning magazines that lead up to election nite '09) Thanks for the understanding , no diss. Hey I like him and while I am reluctant to do a "Gush " and jump on board early as some seem to do here and I like to "tongue in cheek " a way , like to have fun with their gushing..in Powells case, I could gush a bit. Age , is he 71, mmm, ok I guess ok, but to me , getting close, but still gushing. Glad you brought it up, never read his book, or at least I don't think I did, but then again I believe reading of how he commanded the over all forces at the timeon Desert Storm so possible did , can't remember but will put a request in for it at the local library and look at it again. [sigh, gushing a bit. , maybe it's the ROTC and all the way up, got to be pretty good to get by those ring knockers from the academy's, and a man of color to boot]
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Post by b2r on May 31, 2011 11:33:48 GMT -5
Powell said in his heart of hearts to Larry King he could not get himself to vote for Palin as VP and didn't think she would be a good president... Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Here's the comments Powell made on the Larry King Show about Sarah Palin which were very kind IMHO Former Secretary of State Colin Powell called former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin "a fascinating figure," but said "I don't think she was ready to be president of the United States last fall when she was named the vice presidential candidate."I had no doubt he said it, my doubt is that it's his real reason.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 11:41:08 GMT -5
I had no doubt he said it, my doubt is that it's his real reason.
I bet someone of the General's stature probably cannot stand Sarah Palin.....and not sure about his relationship with McCain..?? But don't think it was very close.. I do wonder however what the General really thinks or Obama as our Commander in Chief??
I don't think I have seen them both together too much in the White House but I am old enought to recall president Kennedy and General McArthur meetings several times in the White House just before General McArthur passed ...they were both very close even though the old General was a Republcan and thought about running for President after Truman dumped him in 1951..
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on May 31, 2011 11:41:46 GMT -5
no. Powell showed his colors when he turned his back on the party, instead off stepping up and being the leader that many felt we needed to originally go against Obama. Powell is not the answer, unless you want Obama Light. ...good point...
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 11:51:56 GMT -5
no. Powell showed his colors when he turned his back on the party, instead off stepping up and being the leader that many felt we needed to originally go against Obama. Powell is not the answer, unless you want Obama Light. ...good point... I don't know because in his book General Powell said playing poltics was just not his thing...or being a leader in the RNC was of no interest to him...he may have been a republican in name only..he does have liberal views and opinions i.e lifting the restrictions for gays in the military, allowing more women in the services areas that were once closed to them, and cutting waste and abuse in the Pentagon and etc..
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