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Post by hurley1980 on Oct 7, 2020 12:58:00 GMT -5
So let me get this straight....a Trump supporter (MT) got Covid, was hospitalized, endangered her family (not intentionally, but ya know), all because Trump wouldn't take this crap seriously, yet she is still going to vote for him?
All because "BLACK PEOPLE scare me!"
Please do move to the country! The further you are away from society, the better.
I'll take the ban for saying that.
I have absolutely no patience for Trump supporters anymore.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 7, 2020 13:02:53 GMT -5
But didn't you know, MT is one of those people. In her own words before she took off for her "mild cold" she showed her true colors. Not that she really ever hid them before, she just never put them up on display with bright shiny lights around them before. The statement was "I'm petrified of black people so I'm going to move to the whitest area I can find and buy all the guns I can to protect myself from them." I had hoped that would get her and her foolishness banned like said other poster who IMO had committed lesser offenses, but I'm not in charge here. Yes i did say that. When my country is being burned to the ground, I tend to not want to live by the people that are literally burning it down. As time went on, I realized that ANTIFA was also involved and that definitely made me rethink my original stance. I will not apologize for not wanting to live anywhere near the rioting, looting or burning down of cities or for being afraid of the people that appeared to be doing it. I still want to move to the country. I don't care what color of skin the people are that are destroying our cities, I don't want to live anywhere near them. I'm far enough away that I should be ok but one never knows. Now I'm officially done replying to you. You have post after post just bitching about me in this thread....i don't want you having as much space in my head as I seem to have in yours. Enjoy your day. All the pictures I've seen of the looting has been white people, not POC. All the people killing others at protests have been white right wing people. ANTIFA is not an organization. There is no hierarchy like right wing white supremacist groups such as Proud Boys and KKK. Also, your comments weren't about people of any color when deciding to move. They were specific to black people. You specifically said that you were petrified of black people and were going to move to the whitest area you could find and make sure that you were heavily armed in order to protect yourself. I'd go pull the quotes, but you and your shenanigans got the thread deleted. I'm sure plenty here can recall and verify what I'm stating. Maybe that's why you keep voting for DT. You both have the same MO. Make racist comments and then when called on it, you try to spin it. You're like two peas in a pod.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 7, 2020 13:05:55 GMT -5
Yes i did say that. When my country is being burned to the ground, I tend to not want to live by the people that are literally burning it down. As time went on, I realized that ANTIFA was also involved and that definitely made me rethink my original stance. I will not apologize for not wanting to live anywhere near the rioting, looting or burning down of cities or for being afraid of the people that appeared to be doing it. I still want to move to the country. I don't care what color of skin the people are that are destroying our cities, I don't want to live anywhere near them. I'm far enough away that I should be ok but one never knows. Now I'm officially done replying to you. You have post after post just bitching about me in this thread....i don't want you having as much space in my head as I seem to have in yours. Enjoy your day. In the meantime, no cities have been “burned to the ground” or “destroyed”. Yet some people do put property crimes on a higher plane than the deaths of folks at the hands of the police, the 400 years of systemic racism, the higher incarceration rates of people of color and other grievances. So in a time honored American tradition the citizenry has taken to the streets as the conservative powers that be have done nothing to address these problems 55 years after the Civil Rights movement. Those are your ‘team’ and your response is to move up to the country and paint your mailbox blue. So be it. Others think change is necessary and will do what they think will bring that on. In the meantime let’s not ignore the reality that rightwing extremist groups have also been involved in property crimes, shooting deaths, and, supposedly, at least 50 incidents of running vehicles into non violent protesters. You do realize that in those 55 years, we have had plenty of democrats running the country? Hell, Obama had all three branches of government at one time. Why is this all on Trump and "my team". Yes, I do want to move to the country and let those of you that are cool with destroying the country, have at it. At least my property won't get destroyed. Right wing extremists have shown up and started causing issues. The rioting, looting and burning down of cities was not the right wing extremists. I wish the Proud Boys (or whatever their names are) would stay the hell out of it because they are making it worse. Every person that destroys property should be arrested, whether they are right wing or BLM/ANTIFA. Every person that kills someone should be arrested, whether they are right wing or BLN/ANTIFA. I can assure you that I am petrified of the BLM/ANTIFA people that I have seen pulling people from cars and beating them. If I am in fear for my life, I am hitting the gas and praying those idiots move. If they choose to play chicken with my SUV, my SUV will win.
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Post by dondub on Oct 7, 2020 13:11:39 GMT -5
ACA has done nothing towards that goal.When ACA came in that was a year that SS didn't get a COL increase. BUT ACA did increase our insurance premiums by $41 per month for each of us. So our net SS was down by $82 per month. AND our Dr co-pay went up 80%. Great news for people on SS income The biggest thing wrong with ACA is not having controls on insurance companies about cost. Obama was community organizer and great at spending other peoples money. 20+ million Americans that had -0- insurance were able to acquire some and you whine about $82. How nice you had some before unlike so many that had medical bancos. And your fearless leader has been taking about coming out with the greatest plan ever for 4 years and has done nothing except lie to the idiots that voted for him. As for your insulting sobriquet on Obama. Yes he went to the south side of Chicago and worked for a 6 parish Catholic group doing the folllwing: 1. Teaching a landlord-tenant law class 2. Running a job training program 3. Teaching a college prep class Sorry you find that so despicable versus all the help Trump has supplied to his community...such as ripping off thousands of small business owners and grabbing women in the vulva.
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Post by tallguy on Oct 7, 2020 13:16:25 GMT -5
ACA has done nothing towards that goal.When ACA came in that was a year that SS didn't get a COL increase. BUT ACA did increase our insurance premiums by $41 per month for each of us. So our net SS was down by $82 per month. AND our Dr co-pay went up 80%. Great news for people on SS income The biggest thing wrong with ACA is not having controls on insurance companies about cost.
Obama was community organizer and great at spending other peoples money. It was not Obama and the Democrats who wanted to leave the insurance companies in charge. The ACA borrowed heavily from a Republican plan in the first place. Insurance company participation was viewed as the cost of getting something passed, given that the Republicans were screaming about "socialized medicine." Nobody thought it was perfect as written, but it was hoped to be a good start. The utter failure of health care coverage in this country lies at the feet of Republicans for not being willing to truly engage on the issue and risk handing Obama and the Democrats something that could be viewed as a political win. If any of them were more concerned with the country and its people rather than their party they would do good things regardless of who gets credit. I am not saying here that Democrats are immune from the same problem, but Republicans have raised negativity, selfishness, and greed to a level Democrats cannot even conceive of now.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 7, 2020 13:16:39 GMT -5
In the meantime, no cities have been “burned to the ground” or “destroyed”. Yet some people do put property crimes on a higher plane than the deaths of folks at the hands of the police, the 400 years of systemic racism, the higher incarceration rates of people of color and other grievances. So in a time honored American tradition the citizenry has taken to the streets as the conservative powers that be have done nothing to address these problems 55 years after the Civil Rights movement. Those are your ‘team’ and your response is to move up to the country and paint your mailbox blue. So be it. Others think change is necessary and will do what they think will bring that on. In the meantime let’s not ignore the reality that rightwing extremist groups have also been involved in property crimes, shooting deaths, and, supposedly, at least 50 incidents of running vehicles into non violent protesters. You do realize that in those 55 years, we have had plenty of democrats running the country? Hell, Obama had all three branches of government at one time. Why is this all on Trump and "my team". Yes, I do want to move to the country and let those of you that are cool with destroying the country, have at it. At least my property won't get destroyed. Right wing extremists have shown up and started causing issues. The rioting, looting and burning down of cities was not the right wing extremists. I wish the Proud Boys (or whatever their names are) would stay the hell out of it because they are making it worse. Every person that destroys property should be arrested, whether they are right wing or BLM/ANTIFA. Every person that kills someone should be arrested, whether they are right wing or BLN/ANTIFA. I can assure you that I am petrified of the BLM/ANTIFA people that I have seen pulling people from cars and beating them. If I am in fear for my life, I am hitting the gas and praying those idiots move. If they choose to play chicken with my SUV, my SUV will win. Please post a link to any article showing BLM/ANTIFA pulling people from cars and beating them. One that does not come from a right wing publication. I'll wait.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 7, 2020 13:51:15 GMT -5
Which date/day of the week did he say this? It's hard to keep up with how many times he has flip flopped. Oh, and where is his "bestest health care plan EVER"?? he tweeted it in his 'roid rant from the hospital. And he did get the bested care ever. Fuck the rest of us. You'd think the fact that radiologist, demon doctor and the My Pillow guy were not allowed within 10 feet of him should indicate to his followers what type of medical advice Trump is touting. If they are good enough for us to believe and have their treatments "investigated" by the FDA then they should have been good enough to give Trump.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 7, 2020 13:57:41 GMT -5
he tweeted it in his 'roid rant from the hospital. And he did get the bested care ever. Fuck the rest of us. You'd think the fact that radiologist, demon doctor and the My Pillow guy were not allowed within 10 feet of him should indicate to his followers what type of medical advice Trump is touting. If they are good enough for us to believe and have their treatments "investigated" by the FDA then they should have been good enough to give Trump.I wonder where Trump would be if they treated him?
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 7, 2020 13:59:58 GMT -5
he tweeted it in his 'roid rant from the hospital. And he did get the bested care ever. Fuck the rest of us. You'd think the fact that radiologist, demon doctor and the My Pillow guy were not allowed within 10 feet of him should indicate to his followers what type of medical advice Trump is touting. If they are good enough for us to believe and have their treatments "investigated" by the FDA then they should have been good enough to give Trump. I want to know why they didn't put him on hydroxychloroquine, zinc and z-pack. That is the magic combo that I was assured is 100% foolproof (by Trumpers).
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Post by swamp on Oct 7, 2020 14:09:31 GMT -5
Yes i did say that. When my country is being burned to the ground, I tend to not want to live by the people that are literally burning it down. As time went on, I realized that ANTIFA was also involved and that definitely made me rethink my original stance. I will not apologize for not wanting to live anywhere near the rioting, looting or burning down of cities or for being afraid of the people that appeared to be doing it. I still want to move to the country. I don't care what color of skin the people are that are destroying our cities, I don't want to live anywhere near them. I'm far enough away that I should be ok but one never knows. Now I'm officially done replying to you. You have post after post just bitching about me in this thread....i don't want you having as much space in my head as I seem to have in yours. Enjoy your day. All the pictures I've seen of the looting has been white people, not POC. All the people killing others at protests have been white right wing people. ANTIFA is not an organization. There is no hierarchy like right wing white supremacist groups such as Proud Boys and KKK. Also, your comments weren't about people of any color when deciding to move. They were specific to black people. You specifically said that you were petrified of black people and were going to move to the whitest area you could find and make sure that you were heavily armed in order to protect yourself. I'd go pull the quotes, but you and your shenanigans got the thread deleted. I'm sure plenty here can recall and verify what I'm stating. Maybe that's why you keep voting for DT. You both have the same MO. Make racist comments and then when called on it, you try to spin it. You're like two peas in a pod. Ive seen a mix of both whites and people of color. Most of the arrest have been for people coming from of the area to act as shit stirrers.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Oct 7, 2020 14:16:21 GMT -5
IDGAF who Tina is voting for. I think her choice is misguided at best, but meh, not my monkey, not my circus. I'm glad she's better and her partner and child didn't get COVID. If you care about this election, then you care how PA votes.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 7, 2020 14:17:46 GMT -5
he tweeted it in his 'roid rant from the hospital. And he did get the bested care ever. Fuck the rest of us. You'd think the fact that radiologist, demon doctor and the My Pillow guy were not allowed within 10 feet of him should indicate to his followers what type of medical advice Trump is touting. If they are good enough for us to believe and have their treatments "investigated" by the FDA then they should have been good enough to give Trump. I made a comment to my Trumper dad about how the man who hasn't paid taxes in the majority of the last 20 years is getting the best care taxpayer money can buy. His response? "The tax laws need to be changed. Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes either."
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Post by tallguy on Oct 7, 2020 14:25:28 GMT -5
You'd think the fact that radiologist, demon doctor and the My Pillow guy were not allowed within 10 feet of him should indicate to his followers what type of medical advice Trump is touting. If they are good enough for us to believe and have their treatments "investigated" by the FDA then they should have been good enough to give Trump. I made a comment to my Trumper dad about how the man who hasn't paid taxes in the majority of the last 20 years is getting the best care taxpayer money can buy. His response? "The tax laws need to be changed. Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes either." The difference of course being that one of those two is actually in a position to pass tax law and make it even easier for himself to pay less. Far less.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 7, 2020 14:26:30 GMT -5
You'd think the fact that radiologist, demon doctor and the My Pillow guy were not allowed within 10 feet of him should indicate to his followers what type of medical advice Trump is touting. If they are good enough for us to believe and have their treatments "investigated" by the FDA then they should have been good enough to give Trump. I made a comment to my Trumper dad about how the man who hasn't paid taxes in the majority of the last 20 years is getting the best care taxpayer money can buy. His response? "The tax laws need to be changed. Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes either." Pretty sure Jeff Bezos isn't getting his healthcare on the federal dime.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 7, 2020 14:56:37 GMT -5
You'd think the fact that radiologist, demon doctor and the My Pillow guy were not allowed within 10 feet of him should indicate to his followers what type of medical advice Trump is touting. If they are good enough for us to believe and have their treatments "investigated" by the FDA then they should have been good enough to give Trump.I wonder where Trump would be if they treated him? Six feet under with the UV bulb still lodged in his ass. TBH I think the same thing about people like Jenny McCarthy, Suzanne Somers and Dr. Oz. They all have the money to receive the top care in the world thanks to their peddling of snake oil. Not a single one of them is going to risk their own lives solely relying on the crap they spout.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 7, 2020 14:57:34 GMT -5
There's always going to be a spin. When COVID started it was "What about H1N1? How many died then?" Once we far surpassed that number of deaths it's "People die of the flu every year. Some of those have to be the flu." Now it's "Tax laws need to be changed." It's always going to be something.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 15:10:07 GMT -5
But didn't you know, MT is one of those people. In her own words before she took off for her "mild cold" she showed her true colors. Not that she really ever hid them before, she just never put them up on display with bright shiny lights around them before. The statement was "I'm petrified of black people so I'm going to move to the whitest area I can find and buy all the guns I can to protect myself from them." I had hoped that would get her and her foolishness banned like said other poster who IMO had committed lesser offenses, but I'm not in charge here. Yes i did say that. When my country is being burned to the ground, I tend to not want to live by the people that are literally burning it down. As time went on, I realized that ANTIFA was also involved and that definitely made me rethink my original stance. I will not apologize for not wanting to live anywhere near the rioting, looting or burning down of cities or for being afraid of the people that appeared to be doing it. I still want to move to the country. I don't care what color of skin the people are that are destroying our cities, I don't want to live anywhere near them. I'm far enough away that I should be ok but one never knows. Now I'm officially done replying to you. You have post after post just bitching about me in this thread....i don't want you having as much space in my head as I seem to have in yours. Enjoy your day. Leaving the big cities is a smart move. Out here in rural USA, north central Arkansas, the rioting is 'somewhere else' The people who I see regular when I stop for coffee when in town, summed it by saying "those people are nuts". Around here absolutely nothing has changed, other than what subject is bouncing around the echo chamber of the mainstream media. I'm glad I left the Chicago area 20 years ago.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 7, 2020 15:16:25 GMT -5
All the pictures I've seen of the looting has been white people, not POC. All the people killing others at protests have been white right wing people. ANTIFA is not an organization. There is no hierarchy like right wing white supremacist groups such as Proud Boys and KKK. Also, your comments weren't about people of any color when deciding to move. They were specific to black people. You specifically said that you were petrified of black people and were going to move to the whitest area you could find and make sure that you were heavily armed in order to protect yourself. I'd go pull the quotes, but you and your shenanigans got the thread deleted. I'm sure plenty here can recall and verify what I'm stating. Maybe that's why you keep voting for DT. You both have the same MO. Make racist comments and then when called on it, you try to spin it. You're like two peas in a pod. Ive seen a mix of both whites and people of color. Most of the arrest have been for people coming from of the area to act as shit stirrers. Yes, I agree with that. And admitted to that once I realized what happened. ANTIFA is heavily involved with the destruction and they are mostly the white kids living in their parents basement. Doesn’t change my initial gut reaction or the words I said. I own how I felt and what I said. I made amends to the people that matter to me and couldn’t care less what anyone else thinks about my initial reaction.
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Post by swamp on Oct 7, 2020 15:17:42 GMT -5
I made a comment to my Trumper dad about how the man who hasn't paid taxes in the majority of the last 20 years is getting the best care taxpayer money can buy. His response? "The tax laws need to be changed. Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes either." The difference of course being that one of those two is actually in a position to pass tax law and make it even easier for himself to pay less. Far less. you forgot about the fact that Bezos also isn't accused of taking illegal deductions on his tax returns.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 7, 2020 15:18:54 GMT -5
Yes i did say that. When my country is being burned to the ground, I tend to not want to live by the people that are literally burning it down. As time went on, I realized that ANTIFA was also involved and that definitely made me rethink my original stance. I will not apologize for not wanting to live anywhere near the rioting, looting or burning down of cities or for being afraid of the people that appeared to be doing it. I still want to move to the country. I don't care what color of skin the people are that are destroying our cities, I don't want to live anywhere near them. I'm far enough away that I should be ok but one never knows. Now I'm officially done replying to you. You have post after post just bitching about me in this thread....i don't want you having as much space in my head as I seem to have in yours. Enjoy your day. Leaving the big cities is a smart move. Out here in rural USA, north central Arkansas, the rioting is 'somewhere else' The people who I see regular when I stop for coffee when in town, summed it by saying "those people are nuts". Around here absolutely nothing has changed, other than what subject is bouncing around the echo chamber of the mainstream media. I'm glad I left the Chicago area 20 years ago. I don’t live in a big city. I’m about 2 hours away. They did start their protests locally but luckily it was about 25 people and no one started shit. I think our area is too small to gain the attention that the bigger cities does. But at the time it freaked me out big time. There was no way for me to know that it wasn’t going to turn into something. I still want to move away from civilization. The risk is always there that something will pop up
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Post by swamp on Oct 7, 2020 15:19:28 GMT -5
I made a comment to my Trumper dad about how the man who hasn't paid taxes in the majority of the last 20 years is getting the best care taxpayer money can buy. His response? "The tax laws need to be changed. Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes either." Pretty sure Jeff Bezos isn't getting his healthcare on the federal dime. And living in public housing. and being driven around by public servans. And isn't making money off having those servants stay the night, eat the food, and drive around the golf carts at Mar a Lago.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 15:27:07 GMT -5
Leaving the big cities is a smart move. Out here in rural USA, north central Arkansas, the rioting is 'somewhere else' The people who I see regular when I stop for coffee when in town, summed it by saying "those people are nuts". Around here absolutely nothing has changed, other than what subject is bouncing around the echo chamber of the mainstream media. I'm glad I left the Chicago area 20 years ago. I don’t live in a big city. I’m about 2 hours away. They did start their protests locally but luckily it was about 25 people and no one started shit. I think our area is too small to gain the attention that the bigger cities does. But at the time it freaked me out big time. There was no way for me to know that it wasn’t going to turn into something. I still want to move away from civilization. The risk is always there that something will pop up Avoidance is the best plan of action.
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Post by tallguy on Oct 7, 2020 16:07:53 GMT -5
The difference of course being that one of those two is actually in a position to pass tax law and make it even easier for himself to pay less. Far less. you forgot about the fact that Bezos also isn't accused of taking illegal deductions on his tax returns. To be fair, I was not attempting to present an exclusive list. The differences between Trump and Bezos are legion, and I would be hard-pressed to cite any that show Trump well.
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Post by TheHaitian on Oct 7, 2020 16:14:01 GMT -5
Can anyone confirm if this is true? Cannot find any news article
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Post by oped on Oct 7, 2020 16:19:23 GMT -5
Can anyone confirm if this is true? Cannot find any news article No. I’ve heard false so can’t confirm.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 16:46:37 GMT -5
Is there anybody who isn't aware that ANTIFA stands for anti-fascist? Anybody? I'm anti-fascist. I'm anti-nazi. I'm anti-white supremacy. I'm anti-Michigan militia. And anti all the rest of those crackpots.
I'm not anti-black/brown/any other color, anti-Muslim, anti-Catholic ("everybody" knows Catholics aren't really "Christians"), anti-Buddhist, anti-Jew.
Remember Stephen Miller? trump's bosom buddy in the WH? According to leaked emails, he's a sympathizer with a whole mess of white nationalist organizations. In December 25 Jewish members of Congress called on trump to unload him. He's still there. Well...remotely, since he's got covid. Gotta wonder how trump squares that with his Jewish DD and SIL.
And I'm anti-trump. He's one of those aforementioned crackpots. And he's the guy with the nuclear codes. trump's personal aide who was just diagnosed with covid? That guy is the guy who carried the briefcase around, cuffed to his wrist.
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Post by Opti on Oct 7, 2020 17:00:13 GMT -5
No you see it. You like it. You vote for it. I never denied who Im voting for. Considering you are in favor of my country being burned down during the riots, I really don’t care what you think. Anyone cool with rioting and burning down my country shows they hate it. And yes, that is definitely one of the things I’m voting against! Have a great day The bolded is wrong. You'd actually have to ask different protesters why they do what they do, and its highly unlikely what you believe will be their reason. Some do it because they like chaos and and protests give them an opportunity to cause chaos with other protesters as cover. Some do it to let out their anger. Some are just opportunists and some I think are white supremacists and similar who want the blame to fall and BLM, etc. On a lesser scale crap like this happens after sports team victories. Do you really believe after winning a championship these people are thinking 'I hate America?' If you hated America there are better and more obvious ways to show it. Move out of country. Protest in DC. Write. One of my big concerns is many Trump supporters refuse to understand why things are bad, and instead of addressing issues with the police, they think doubling down on unfair practices are going to fix things. That's crazy and a good way to make things worse. If the majority of the protesters were burning things down, far more damage would have been done. Punish the guilty, but listen to those who are protesting for change. Address the issues, decrease the reasons for anger. BTW, the pic below is from when Kentucky won the NCAA basketball championship in 2012. elsportsblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/blog-post.htmlCelebrating quickly turned into rioting after the University of Kentucky Wildcats won the 2012 NCAA Men's Basketball Championship. It was estimated that 15,000 students gathered in Lexington, Kentucky. Homes were trashed, couches and mattresses were set on fire, windows were broken, policemen were assaulted with rocks and bottles, and one man was even shot.
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Post by dondub on Oct 7, 2020 17:06:36 GMT -5
Anyone not cool with rioting and throwing tea into the harbor should move to the countryside...in England.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 7, 2020 17:07:34 GMT -5
POC live in the country too.
Maybe the poster would feel safer in northern Idaho or other rural areas out west where white nationalists live and POC are definitely not welcomed.
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