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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 24, 2019 14:27:55 GMT -5
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 24, 2019 14:45:15 GMT -5
I absolutely believe Congress should do it's job and check/balance the president. At the same time though I REALLY hope this doesn't backfire. I fear that if he is not impeached and removed from office this will make him and his Republican cohorts even more emboldened in 2020.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 24, 2019 14:53:01 GMT -5
I absolutely believe Congress should do it's job and check/balance the president. At the same time though I REALLY hope this doesn't backfire. I fear that if he is not impeached and removed from office this will make him and his Republican cohorts even more emboldened in 2020. this backfiring thing is a myth.
although Clinton's favorability as a president didn't fall as a result of his impeachment, Democrats have not fared well since he left office.
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Post by bean29 on Sept 24, 2019 14:53:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I think he has committed multiple things he could be impeached for, but the Republicans have his back and many will probably go down with him if the evidence starts to be revealed. They have been very successful at repressing the evidence to date.
My Aunt Just posted something on Facebook yesterday about People need to Respect the President, and I was like wtf, the Man lies and cheats all the time, he has had affairs, he is not fine upstanding Christian...I just don't get it. If you want to hold someone up as deserving of Respect - pick someone like Mother Teresa or the Pope, not Donald Trump!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 24, 2019 14:54:56 GMT -5
I absolutely believe Congress should do it's job and check/balance the president. At the same time though I REALLY hope this doesn't backfire. I fear that if he is not impeached and removed from office this will make him and his Republican cohorts even more emboldened in 2020. this backfiring thing is a myth.
although Clinton's favorability as a president didn't fall as a result of his impeachment, Democrats have not fared well since he left office.
Agreed. It's a myth that conservatives like to promote because it serves them well. Screw them.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 24, 2019 14:56:34 GMT -5
I absolutely believe Congress should do it's job and check/balance the president. At the same time though I REALLY hope this doesn't backfire. I fear that if he is not impeached and removed from office this will make him and his Republican cohorts even more emboldened in 2020. this backfiring thing is a myth.
although Clinton's favorability as a president didn't fall as a result of his impeachment, Democrats have not fared well since he left office.
I sure hope so. Checking the executive branch is LONG over due.
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Post by hurley1980 on Sept 24, 2019 14:57:13 GMT -5
About damn time!
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 24, 2019 15:16:08 GMT -5
Trump hasn't earned our respect. In fact he has ruined the prestige that comes with the office. Our country has lost it's values and standing in the world.
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Post by dezii on Sept 24, 2019 15:37:23 GMT -5
I absolutely believe Congress should do it's job and check/balance the president. At the same time though I REALLY hope this doesn't backfire. I fear that if he is not impeached and removed from office this will make him and his Republican cohorts even more emboldened in 2020. this backfiring thing is a myth.
although Clinton's favorability as a president didn't fall as a result of his impeachment, Democrats have not fared well since he left office.
eight years of Obama isn't really that shabby,,,Just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 15:57:50 GMT -5
Sad time for the USA, not that the Dems are starting this process (I agree with it) but that we have a leader that is this embarrassing and corrupt.
I disagreed with several policy positions for both W and Obama, but never had to worry what they did would take us here.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 24, 2019 16:39:08 GMT -5
I agree! GO NANCY!!! The Democrats are FINISHED.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 24, 2019 16:43:43 GMT -5
The Democrats are just getting started. Wait until 2020 when we really drain the swamp of trump's inept administration.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 24, 2019 19:02:52 GMT -5
this backfiring thing is a myth.
although Clinton's favorability as a president didn't fall as a result of his impeachment, Democrats have not fared well since he left office.
eight years of Obama isn't really that shabby,,,Just saying. I said Democrats. I was not referring to the executive.
during that time, Democrats BARELY held a majority in TWO of those 8 years.
I say BARELY because of the Blue Dog contingent, who are (were) conservative Democrats.
Obama really could not get SHIT done. just like Trump is having trouble now.
neither party can govern effectively. some of us like that.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 24, 2019 19:31:11 GMT -5
Dammit. It was all a hoax. There will be no vote (because 69 'moderates' said f- no). I really don't quite understand what they're doing. They're essentially admitting to themselves there's no clear path to impeaching Trump in the House (to say nothing of the firewall in the Senate) but at the same time, Trump gets to keep all the political advantages of fighting impeachment? It's almost like they stepped in it re: Ukraine and now they need to be able to say none of that is real- it's just political retaliation because Trump knows he's going to be impeached...
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Post by dondub on Sept 24, 2019 19:50:20 GMT -5
Not just a hoax. This was the most sinister HOAX in the history of our republic. Heads should roll, long prison sentences, frog marching, possible up against the wall.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 24, 2019 20:28:49 GMT -5
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Post by kadee79 on Sept 24, 2019 20:31:12 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 24, 2019 20:58:09 GMT -5
Amazing. None of you see the setup here?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 24, 2019 20:58:56 GMT -5
The New York Times has ZERO credibility- like none. They're not biased, they're a complete joke now.
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Post by dondub on Sept 24, 2019 21:52:49 GMT -5
Amazing. None of you see the setup here? [img style="max-width:50%;" src="https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71118931_10111672684149210_4341965370773471232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQluY47Rp8ybPxjciASkp6oxCxQ0UonQJk44RK3S0YeGsv9Y6kkRKIVMrzMoIMew0OGIZK4Oobpm50kmHIPxeQOv&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-2.fna&oh=22d16256fceda547dd64e6d3df797b3a&oe=5E01CB89" If I saw everything that you’ve seen in the last decade I’d be blind. Instead, I can see right through you.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 24, 2019 22:11:04 GMT -5
The New York Times has ZERO credibility- like none. They're not biased, they're a complete joke now. The NYT is one of the most, if not THE most, respected publications in the world. Of course you hate it. They tell the truth
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 24, 2019 23:48:41 GMT -5
The New York Times has ZERO credibility- like none. They're not biased, they're a complete joke now. The NYT is one of the most, if not THE most, respected publications in the world. Of course you hate it. They tell the truth they are also wildly successful and profitable. but never mind all that.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Sept 25, 2019 7:51:53 GMT -5
this backfiring thing is a myth.
although Clinton's favorability as a president didn't fall as a result of his impeachment, Democrats have not fared well since he left office.
Agreed. It's a myth that conservatives like to promote because it serves them well. Screw them. has anyone checked if this line of thinking was started by russian bots? What a load of crock! Let someone abuse power, commit crimes because checking them would have consequences what a head trip!
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Post by swamp on Sept 25, 2019 8:16:17 GMT -5
The New York Times has ZERO credibility- like none. They're not biased, they're a complete joke now. Yes, I prefer to get my news from Breitbart and Conservative Tree House. They're so much more reliable. I'm sure they will be awarded a Pulitzer any day now
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Post by swamp on Sept 25, 2019 8:16:53 GMT -5
The NYT is one of the most, if not THE most, respected publications in the world. Of course you hate it. They tell the truth they are also wildly successful and profitable. but never mind all that.
No, Trump calls them the failing NYT regularly. It must be true.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 25, 2019 8:24:22 GMT -5
The New York Times has ZERO credibility- like none. They're not biased, they're a complete joke now. Projecting again I see.
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Post by dezii on Sept 25, 2019 10:06:54 GMT -5
they are also wildly successful and profitable. but never mind all that.
No, Trump calls them the failing NYT regularly. It must be true. Because the Donald says so...right.? ……. ………………………….
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 25, 2019 11:09:16 GMT -5
they are also wildly successful and profitable. but never mind all that.
No, Trump calls them the failing NYT regularly. It must be true. feelings are the new facts.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 25, 2019 11:36:14 GMT -5
Dammit. It was all a hoax. There will be no vote (because 69 'moderates' said f- no). I really don't quite understand what they're doing. They're essentially admitting to themselves there's no clear path to impeaching Trump in the House (to say nothing of the firewall in the Senate) but at the same time, Trump gets to keep all the political advantages of fighting impeachment? It's almost like they stepped in it re: Ukraine and now they need to be able to say none of that is real- it's just political retaliation because Trump knows he's going to be impeached... Dems are doing this strange thing called 'waiting for the documents, investigating the facts before deciding whether or not to impeach.'
I know fact checking and veracity are odd concepts for someone who adheres to Trump's style of politics, but there you have it.
If the whistleblower complaint is bullshit, if there is no solid proof Trump did strong arm the Ukrainian president, then I hope the Dems would NOT move to impeach.
At least one of the major parties has to adhere to some kind of ethnical code.
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