Mom Shoots Carjacker - Proper Gun Control

[gambler]

good for her. I hope the judge throws him in jail for 10 years just to reinforce the lesson he should have learned. I do not care were the gun was or what the circumstance were she did good!

[NancysSummerSip]

Jul 6, 2018 5:54:59 GMT -5 Bluerobin said:

Scumbag got what he deserved.  Too bad he made it to the hospital!

I agree he got what he deserved. And I am actually glad he survived for one reason: I want him to have to face her in court. I want him to see the eyes and feel the wrath of a real tiger mom. I bet that courtroom will be packed with her supporters, staring his sorry ass down. Bad enough he stole property. But to steal kids, too? Yup, there's one dim bulb who got his lights shot out by a pistol-packing mama whose target practice paid off.

[Bluerobin]

If her target practice paid off, he would be dead.

[NancysSummerSip]

Jul 7, 2018 15:06:27 GMT -5 Bluerobin said:

If her target practice paid off, he would be dead.

Not necessarily. Gun targets on the range are generally not moving targets. He may have been in motion in her vehicle, and holding a weapon and obviously he was shot at close range. She dealt with factors in this situation not normally found on your typical gun practice range. Oh, and her kids were in the car. She had to make a split-second decision to stop him while not allowing the kids to be injured by a bullet ricocheting off any surface. Overall, I think her training (assuming she had any) did pay off. Her kids are safe, she's fine, she has her vehicle and donkeybutt wannabe carjacker got time chained to a hospital bed with a 24-hour jail guard outside his room. Assuming he can get up and move, he cannot even go potty without a guard watching him take a whizz.

Pain AND humiliation. And that's before he goes in front of a judge. Me likely.

[billisonboard]

Jul 7, 2018 15:06:27 GMT -5 Bluerobin said:

If her target practice paid off, he would be dead.

If she aimed her gun at the guy's head and she hit him in the head, her target practice paid off. If she aimed at his head and she hit him anywhere else, her practice did not pay off. If her goal was to stop the hijacking and keep her children safe, she met her goal. If her goal was to kill the person who did the hijacking, she did fail. Lack of a death here doesn't seem all that important to me.

[zibazinski]

It does to me. It prevents him from committing more crimes.

[billisonboard]

Jul 7, 2018 16:58:48 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

It does to me. It prevents him from committing more crimes.

Killing everyone who commits one crime would prevent them from committing more crimes.

[zibazinski]

Yes it would but I’ll bet this guy has a rap sheet a mile long.

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Jul 7, 2018 18:14:22 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Yes it would but I’ll bet this guy has a rap sheet a mile long.

I'd bet that there are many things that he's done that don't show up on his rap sheet...

[zibazinski]

Jul 7, 2018 20:37:19 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jul 7, 2018 18:14:22 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Yes it would but I’ll bet this guy has a rap sheet a mile long.

I'd bet that there are many things that he's done that don't show up on his rap sheet...

Yup. A new criminal doesn’t just decide to car jack. I’ll bet he did plenty leading up to it, with probably a wrist slap.

[zibazinski]

Jul 6, 2018 13:42:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Of course all of this could have been avoided had the mom taken the keys with her and locked the vehicle before she entered the store.

Most of these carjackings and purse snatchings which involve convenience stores and gas stations could be avoided if people locked their vehicles before conducting their business.  

I’m certainly hoping you’re not blaming these victims of criminals by saying the victims were at fault for not being more careful.

[Bluerobin]

It is hard to miss from an arm's length away.  From what I read, it sounds like the kids were behind her (safe), so if she was a better shot the scum would be dead.  Never shoot to wound.

[zibazinski]

Jul 8, 2018 6:55:41 GMT -5 Bluerobin said:

It is hard to miss from an arm's length away.  From what I read, it sounds like the kids were behind her (safe), so if she was a better shot the scum would be dead.  Never shoot to wound.

Yes because this a-hole will eventually get out and commit more crimes. In the meantime he’s cared for courtesy of taxpayers.

[NancysSummerSip]

Jul 7, 2018 18:14:22 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Yes it would but I’ll bet this guy has a rap sheet a mile long.

The photo of him used on the local news is "from a previous mugshot," according to the station. 36-yesar-old Ricky Wright has a considerable criminal history: assault and family violence, arson, theft, making a terroristic threat, resisting arrest, and drug dealing. Given that she shot him in the head, you would think this will likely be his last criminal attempt. His most recent condition update is serious but stable. Which is good in a way, because it likely means he will survive and be capable of standing trial.

[zibazinski]

Jul 8, 2018 9:12:14 GMT -5 NancysSummerSip said:

Jul 7, 2018 18:14:22 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Yes it would but I’ll bet this guy has a rap sheet a mile long.

The photo of him used on the local news is "from a previous mugshot," according to the station. 36-yesar-old Ricky Wright has a considerable criminal history: assault and family violence, arson, theft, making a terroristic threat, resisting arrest, and drug dealing. Given that she shot him in the head, you would think this will likely be his last criminal attempt. His most recent condition update is serious but stable. Which is good in a way, because it likely means he will survive and be capable of standing trial.

Crap.

[NancysSummerSip]

Jul 8, 2018 17:39:45 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Jul 8, 2018 9:12:14 GMT -5 NancysSummerSip said:

The photo of him used on the local news is "from a previous mugshot," according to the station. 36-yesar-old Ricky Wright has a considerable criminal history: assault and family violence, arson, theft, making a terroristic threat, resisting arrest, and drug dealing. Given that she shot him in the head, you would think this will likely be his last criminal attempt. His most recent condition update is serious but stable. Which is good in a way, because it likely means he will survive and be capable of standing trial.

Crap.

Well, that four-letter word certainly describes him as well. But this offense should make him a habitual felon (in Texas, that means he has two prior felony convictions, so this one would mean a 25-year-to-life sentence).

[Deleted]

I just hope that he doesn't live to sue HER and get "damages + pain & suffering" because she shot him. There are people out there stupid enough to, as jurors, award him that (it's happened before: criminal injured while in process of crime sues victim and wins).

[countrygirl2]

That's exactly what I was thinking.  He may be disfigured or other issues then the public will have to take care of him for the rest of his life.  It's not as simple as shooting someone even in the middle of a crime anymore.  It should be...……...

[thyme4change]

If he was in jail forever, the government would be supporting him too.

And, a private company would profit.

[Tennesseer]

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[zibazinski]

If we executed criminals after the first crime, it’d not happen over and over again until finally a law abiding citizen has to do the job that needed to be done in the beginning.

[billisonboard]

Jul 9, 2018 11:39:11 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

If we executed criminals after the first crime, it’d not happen over and over again until finally a law abiding citizen has to do the job that needed to be done in the beginning.

Would love to hear the details of such a plan (e.g. age it would start and crimes that would subject one to the death penalty). It would certainly have a strong impact on the society we live in and police power in it. 

[zibazinski]

You’re right. Rapists couldn’t rape again. Murderers couldn’t murder again. Pedophiles couldn’t hurt children again. Car jackers and thieves-done. Maybe one wrist slap if that makes you feel better but the second crime? Done and over with. It’d be nice to feel safe again.

[billisonboard]

Jul 9, 2018 12:06:09 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

You’re right. Rapists couldn’t rape again. Murderers couldn’t murder again. Pedophiles couldn’t hurt children again. Car jackers and thieves-done. Maybe one wrist slap if that makes you feel better but the second crime? Done and over with. It’d be nice to feel safe again.

You highlight the easy ones. An eighteen year old girl walking out of a convenience store while her boyfriend distracts the clerk is a theif. The boy is committing a crime as well. Does the clerk report them knowing it would lead to their death? Would the cop arrest them? Judge convict them knowing they would die?

[zibazinski]

Hopefully. Especially if they already have a record If it’s the first time then maybe a wrist slap but after that, no more.

[zibazinski]

If either one has a weapon then all bets are off even for the first time.

[billisonboard]

Jul 9, 2018 13:35:18 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Hopefully. Especially if they already have a record If it’s the first time then maybe a wrist slap but after that, no more.

So now it is a "maybe" for the first offense? As I said before, I am interested in the details of this plan. If we are going to ask our government officials to start killing a lot of people, it seems important to know exactly what it is we are looking to do. Seems like a program with death for smaller infractions would do a lot to solve the problem of human beings littering the streets with themselves and their stuff.

[weltschmerz]

So, all those incarcerated pot-smokers should have been killed immediately?

[zibazinski]

Jul 9, 2018 13:44:42 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 9, 2018 13:35:18 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Hopefully. Especially if they already have a record If it’s the first time then maybe a wrist slap but after that, no more.

So now it is a "maybe" for the first offense? As I said before, I am interested in the details of this plan. If we are going to ask our government officials to start killing a lot of people, it seems important to know exactly what it is we are looking to do. Seems like a program with death for smaller infractions would do a lot to solve the problem of human beings littering the streets with themselves and their stuff.

I don’t consider theft to be a minor infraction. I suppose you do. I did mention that if you wanted a slap on the wrist for a first infraction, so be it, but that must be no one being physically harmed in any way. That gives you a first strike.

[zibazinski]

It’s a shame that pot is illegal. I don’t agree with it but it is the law. Until it’s changed then it is what it is. I don’t consider pot smoking to be a violent crime but if you kill or harm someone because you’re “high” then so be it. I also consider killing or harming someone while you’re drunk to be premeditated. You chose to drink and drive. No one poured the alcohol down your throat.