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Post by Pants on Jun 15, 2018 12:29:22 GMT -5
Sigh. All of my non-sports bras are underwire. I have never had an underwire set off a metal detector.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 12:29:25 GMT -5
I'd rather wear a sports bra on a plane anyhow. It's uncomfortable enough being crammed in there as it is.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 15, 2018 13:05:14 GMT -5
Sigh. All of my non-sports bras are underwire. I have never had an underwire set off a metal detector. I have and getting felt up by another woman is not a happy thing.
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Post by Pants on Jun 15, 2018 13:09:49 GMT -5
I have never had an underwire set off a metal detector. I have and getting felt up by another woman is not a happy thing. I don't have a problem with it.
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Post by chapeau on Jun 15, 2018 13:13:45 GMT -5
I have never had an underwire set off a metal detector. I have and getting felt up by another woman is not a happy thing. It's not like most of the male TSA agents are worth being felt up by either It's not the end of the world. When I've had it done it's been very impersonal, so as un-embarrassing as they can make it
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 15, 2018 15:31:21 GMT -5
I've had the pat down a few times. Usually because I refused the nude-o-scope. Maybe I got lucky, but the pat down was done in a respectful way. Each time, they did get a female TSA agent to do the pat down.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 18:24:28 GMT -5
Every airport is different. Big city airports tend to be a lot tougher than the smaller ones. For instance, Houston airports require tablets out of your bag and in the bin, meds out in the bin, etc. Smaller airport like Portland, OR says keep them in your bag. BUT the Portland scanner tripped on DH's belt, coins, hearing aid batteries, etc. and the Houston airport didn't. Plus Portland has a very attentive black Lab scan every passenger and carry-on for any legal-in-Oregon organic substances. That dog puts his nose in places the human agents don't
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 15, 2018 18:29:27 GMT -5
[quote author=" alabamagal" source="/post/2859336/thread" timestamp="1529019634" I live in a dry climate and take allergy pills that gives me dry mouth.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 15, 2018 19:20:11 GMT -5
I fly out of a very small airport. One concourse. The ones where you walk to small planes is called another concourse but you are walking in the same area to get to the concourse with the jetways to get on the plane.
Usually people from one or maybe two flights are going through security at the same time.
It was at that airport that I was randomly selected to have my carry ons inspected as we got on the plane.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jun 15, 2018 20:12:35 GMT -5
Okay, so Before we leave: Figure out if the large red suitcase MIL gave us is too big for checking Clean out my purse Make DD clean out her purse
Carry-on bag: meds chargers one outfit each empty water bottle ChromeBook
Checked Bag(s): Bathroom Bag Stuff Create a Capsule Type Set of Clothes
When we get there: Make sure we all have our DL Wear sandals but have a sweater Check-In 24 Hours Before Flight Be ready to board for people with reserved seats
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Post by Pants on Jun 15, 2018 20:16:41 GMT -5
Okay, so Before we leave: Figure out if the large red suitcase MIL gave us is too big for checking Clean out my purse Make DD clean out her purse
Carry-on bag: meds chargers one outfit each empty water bottle ChromeBook
Checked Bag(s): Bathroom Bag Stuff Create a Capsule Type Set of Clothes
When we get there: Make sure we all have our DL Wear sandals but have a sweater Check-In 24 Hours Before Flight Be ready to board for people with reserved seats This looks great. EXCEPT. No sandals. You will have to remove your shoes at security. You don't want to walk there barefoot. Your feet will freeze on the plane. Gym shoes, flats - anything that's easy to remove and put back on. No sandals.
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Post by milee on Jun 15, 2018 20:56:35 GMT -5
Now for the germophobe and off the wall suggestions... - If you wear sandals, have socks you can slip on so you're not walking through security barefoot.
- I also carry a refillable water bottle everywhere, but it's a delicate balance for flying. You do not want to have to use the airplane restroom. Blech. Timing is everything. - Sounds batshit crazy, but ever since I started bringing Clorox/Lysol wipes and as soon as I sit down wiping down the seat, armrests, especially the belt and buckle, tray table and pretty much everything I might touch... I haven't gotten sick while flying. Planes are gross. Really, really gross.
- If any of your family are large, the small size of the airplane seats may be surprising. On 2 of the 4 flights I was on last week the person sitting next to me was so large that they didn't fit in the seat. The woman on the first flight was able to get the armrest down and with the help of a seatbelt extender to buckle herself in, but she was very uncomfy and also well into my seat. On the later flight, the man was so large, lowering the armrest was impossible and he took up about 1/3 of my seat as well. He was large enough that he couldn't lower the tray table and the seatbelt didn't fit, so he didn't wear it (which I thought was against FAA regulations, but wasn't something I wanted to get involved with.) This is becoming more and more common as the seats get smaller and people get larger. If you think any of your family might not easily fit, you can research the seat sizes and do some measuring at home so you know in advance and avoid embarrassment.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 15, 2018 21:35:03 GMT -5
Also, the checked suitcase isn’t limited by size, but weight. It must be no more than 50 lbs, and they DO monitor this.
It is cheaper to check 2 bags that are 40 lb each than it is to check one bag that is 52 lbs. I think the overweight charge is $100.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 22:22:30 GMT -5
Sounds batshit crazy, but ever since I started bringing Clorox/Lysol wipes and as soon as I sit down wiping down the seat, armrests, especially the belt and buckle, tray table and pretty much everything I might touch... I haven't gotten sick while flying. Planes are gross. Really, really gross. - If any of your family are large, the small size of the airplane seats may be surprising. On 2 of the 4 flights I was on last week the person sitting next to me was so large that they didn't fit in the seat. <snip> If you think any of your family might not easily fit, you can research the seat sizes and do some measuring at home so you know in advance and avoid embarrassment.
Planes are flying Petri dishes and you are not crazy. DH ended up with a cold that morphed into bronchitis or pneumonia every time we took a long flight; he was older and had health issues so his immune system was weak. When both he and my mother were dying, DH's oncologist was adamant that we not fly to Mom's funeral. We drove (KC to Myrtle Beach). Well, I drove. It wore us both out but I was so glad we were there. DH died a month later but at least he didn't die from some bug he caught on a plane. As for "passengers of size", it's clear that most airlines do nothing and, as in your stories, just hope that the large passenger and their neighbors will suffer in silence. The only pre-emptive actions you can take are to fly Business Class or book two seats. Southwest is the only airline that's actually developed a policy; they'll give large passengers an extra seat at no charge if it's available, or book them on a later flight where they can get two seats, also at no charge.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 16, 2018 9:46:07 GMT -5
I'm also against sandals. It might take a few seconds to slip off sneakers, but, you probably only do that once during your day. There is always a bench on the other side to put your shoes back on (in the Milwaukee airport they call it the recombobulation area.) I like to have sneakers for several reasons - you often have to walk a lot when traveling, the planes are often cold and my toes get cold in sandals, I don't like to be barefoot in the airplane, and sandals slip off so easily I just can't resist, etc.
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Post by CCL on Jun 17, 2018 1:07:27 GMT -5
Do you still need to remove your shoes? (plan accordingly if you do). I know I've seen guys remove their belts (because of the buckle). And I think jewelry too - watches, metal necklaces, bracelets, etc. Yes, shoes need to come off during security check. And jackets, belts, watches, big metal jewelry too. I find it easier to use slip on shoes while travelling. Makes security check so much easier. We just went through security at 5 different airports and did not need to take off our shoes. We didn't see anyone else take theirs off either. We didn't need to take our baggies with carryon liquids out. They scanned them while in our carryon bags. Liquids over 3 oz had to be poured out prior to security checks. Used TSA locks on checked bags and surprisingly, they weren't broken when we picked up our suitcases. The airline apps are great. Be sure to download them onto your phone before boarding the plane. Lots of handy features. The planes we were on had free wifi when using their app or on their websites, but charged for any other sites.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 17, 2018 11:18:12 GMT -5
Yes, shoes need to come off during security check. And jackets, belts, watches, big metal jewelry too. I find it easier to use slip on shoes while travelling. Makes security check so much easier. We just went through security at 5 different airports and did not need to take off our shoes. We didn't see anyone else take theirs off either. We didn't need to take our baggies with carryon liquids out. They scanned them while in our carryon bags. Liquids over 3 oz had to be poured out prior to security checks. Used TSA locks on checked bags and surprisingly, they weren't broken when we picked up our suitcases. The airline apps are great. Be sure to download them onto your phone before boarding the plane. Lots of handy features. The planes we were on had free wifi when using their app or on their websites, but charged for any other sites. 5 US airports did not make ANYONE take off their shoes? Which 5? I know my travel is pretty repetitive, but I haven't seen any airport in the US categorically forgo the shoe thing.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 17, 2018 11:31:04 GMT -5
Only the TSA precheck people
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 17, 2018 11:36:54 GMT -5
Only the TSA precheck people If that is true, Cheesecakelady's post is misleading for the OP.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jun 17, 2018 11:47:27 GMT -5
Also those under 12 and over 75 do not have to take their shoes off. I've flown twice this year and those in the non pre check lines were taking shoes off.
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Post by alabamagal on Jun 17, 2018 12:26:12 GMT -5
You just have to be prepared for anything going through security. The rules change all the time.
Airline app is a good thing. You can also get notifications there. Delta app had a place to help you find your vehicle in airport parking, which I didn’t notice until I was at terminal.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jun 17, 2018 12:49:42 GMT -5
I was on the TSA website looking for the shoe age and I noticed the electronics thing. Anything bigger than a cell phone needs to be screened separately even if it's not a laptop. I've had that off and on in the past few years. Just listen to the instructions because they do change it up from time to time.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 17, 2018 13:14:54 GMT -5
I was on the TSA website looking for the shoe age and I noticed the electronics thing. Anything bigger than a cell phone needs to be screened separately even if it's not a laptop. I've had that off and on in the past few years. Just listen to the instructions because they do change it up from time to time. P That explains me needing to remove my iPad and Kindle from my backpack.
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Post by CCL on Jun 17, 2018 13:41:54 GMT -5
Need to correct myself, it was 4 different airports. 1 we went through twice: Seattle, Las Vegas, Indianapolis, Detroit, Seattle again. We didn't have TSA Precheck. Went through the regular lines. They may have asked some people to remove shoes, but, if so, I did not see it.
In Detroit we didn't have to go through security, so I may be mistaken about that one. I was tired lol.
In Seattle, they had a dog who walked up and down sniffing every person/bag. After that, they said, "Keep moving. Don't stop." People who set off the alarms went through additional screening.
All in all, airport security seemed lighter and the legroom seemed shorter than in the past. Some airlines do limit checked bags by size in addition to weight.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 18:23:27 GMT -5
DH is 78 so he doesn't have to remove shoes; I'm 70 so I do have to remove mine.
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Post by milee on Jun 17, 2018 18:38:59 GMT -5
I went through both Indianapolis and Atlanta within the past week and had to remove shoes at both.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 17, 2018 19:10:44 GMT -5
I went through Seattle May 9 and had to remove my shoes, despite having precheck (precheck line wasn’t open).
I did not have to remove my shoes going through security May 19 in Cancun. However, I got stopped because of my iPad and Kindle. No precheck lane.
I usually assume I’ll have to remove my shoes.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jun 29, 2018 9:53:33 GMT -5
We're back from the trip. I really do appreciate the insight you all gave me. It made our boarding and such so much smoother. I've been in Portland's airport as an adult, but I haven't been in SF's or SJ's airports since I was a kid. O'Hare is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much bigger!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 9:57:04 GMT -5
I like flying out of our little local airport. There's like maybe 50 to 100 people in there at any given time and security and parking is simple. Then we take a puddle jumper to Minneapolis or Chicago to get on our main flight.
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Post by hoops902 on Jun 29, 2018 10:03:17 GMT -5
I've randomly not had to remove my shoes, but it's not consistent even at the same airport at different times. I've also gotten plenty of "take off your belts" "you don't need to remove your belts" at the same places. Typically my experience lately (last 5 years) has been to leave the belt on and take the shoes off.
Ironically in some foreign places where they're doing pat-downs with guys carrying assault rifles...they just let you leave your shoes on. I was untying them trying to take them off because they were SUPER secure about things there (mirrors under vehicles, bomb and drug sniffing dogs, full body patdowns for everyone). But shoes...just leave em on and walk on through.
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