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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 24, 2017 10:50:41 GMT -5
They tried to convince me I couldn't drive home without them doing all that stuff. I told them I drove here just fine, I am sure once my tire is fixed it'll make it the five blocks I need to get home and have my dad look at it. They tried to take the list from me too. I let them have it because nothing on there was not routine and my dad had planned to service the car that weekend anyhow.
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Post by CCL on Apr 24, 2017 19:46:14 GMT -5
In my experience, struts and sway bars are the new shock absorbers & idler arms. Back in the 1950s and 60s, service stations mounted a 'worn' shock and a new shock on a barrel. You pulled both handles to compare the difference. They recommended new shocks every 10,000 miles. Failure to do so would result in losing control and crashing into a ditch and getting killed. Most of us eventually learned that the original shocks actually lasted the life of the car, I've put 200,000 miles on shocks w/ no issues. Same with struts and sway bars - service writers start advising new new at 100k to 150k - but I've never replaced any. IMO, the key words are 'worn" and "worn out". Every component on the car is 'worn' at 5K or 10k miles. But no where near "worn out", for most things it takes over 200k miles for parts to wear outside of their performance tolerance (except for the 'wear' items - brakes, tires). A lot of unnecessary repairs are performed with fear-mongering ('you'll lose control and crash'). The hard part is discerning the difference between the fear-mongering and an actual problem. One time a repair shop showed me the 'play' in my sway bar. Later, I looked it up in a shop manual, any play up to 1/4 inch was considered normal. (the car was a '69 Dodge so that occurred between 1969 & 1979). Disagree on the shocks. We've had/know of several that have gone bad, usually around 125k-150k or so miles.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 15:01:38 GMT -5
Well, 5000 miles later I took it back in for another oil change and another multi-point inspection. A few things have cured themselves, so that's awesome. Original list with today's notes: Diagnose Oil leak - $114 (this one is the only one bothering me or affecting me at all right now, because it is leaking a lot, and that's just the diagnosis...who knows what needs to be done to fix) Had this done...only they just charged me $10 for the dye, need to take it back in next Thursday, but they think they've narrowed it down to CAM seals and crank shaft seals?Replace leaking passenger rear shock - $261 - Apparently fine now.Passenger front sway bar link has play (replace) - $132 - Broke I guess. They say I'm probably hearing clunking. Nope. But whatever. Quote to fix has mysteriously now dropped to $99.47Power steering pump leaks (replace) - $436 - Still leaking! Although I've been checking the fluid level and have never had to add any. Quote on this dropped to $407.35Leaking inboard CV boot - $227 - All better. Front Ball Joint - $254 - Also in remission. Alignment (required with ball joint replacement) - $70 - NARear Strut assembly (replace) $406 - Looked good to this guy!
This is all sounding awesome except the quote for Timing belt with CAM seals and crank shaft seal is $1203. The guy did say this was worst case scenario, but I'm thinking....this is going to end up being worst case scenario.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 29, 2017 15:22:30 GMT -5
Ooh, I wanna play!!!
the following things are broken on my car: -front passenger window doesn't roll down or up (it's a power window) -a light fender bender left my rear bumper slightly out of alignment on the left side, so there is a gap between my brake light and the bumper -various deep scratches
The last time I was in a fender bender and my bumper got out of alignment, my entire bumper had to be replaced. I'm afraid that will happen again. It's not like the thing is hanging off - you literally can't tell it's crooked unless you are looking closely at the left brake light. But the last one was similar except it was the front bumper.
Also, does the window have a separate motor from the car? And would I have to get the motor replaced or can it be fixed?
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jun 29, 2017 15:24:48 GMT -5
Also in remission, I love it! Not so much love for whoever said it was sick in the first place. MJ, your window does have it's own motor to replace. I have 2 that need replacing on my old van. Also, the wipers have decided to not work at all. Good thing I'd already made DH drive it and he only works a couple of miles from home. Most days he gets there in between rain storms.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 15:36:29 GMT -5
Ooh, I wanna play!!! the following things are broken on my car: -front passenger window doesn't roll down or up (it's a power window) -a light fender bender left my rear bumper slightly out of alignment on the left side, so there is a gap between my brake light and the bumper -various deep scratches The last time I was in a fender bender and my bumper got out of alignment, my entire bumper had to be replaced. I'm afraid that will happen again. It's not like the thing is hanging off - you literally can't tell it's crooked unless you are looking closely at the left brake light. But the last one was similar except it was the front bumper. Also, does the window have a separate motor from the car? And would I have to get the motor replaced or can it be fixed? I never worry about anything cosmetic. The window will have it's own motor and they'll most likely replace over fix. Unless it's something like an electical issue, it's probably that the motor itself is shot. Which reminds me, they also said I needed a new rear wiper blade. I'm like, "yeah...not really. The motor in the rear wiper quit a couple weeks ago". I'll pass on replacing the blade right now.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 29, 2017 15:38:18 GMT -5
will water and gunk get into the gap between the bumper and the brake light? And is that something I could fail inspection for?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 15:40:20 GMT -5
Isn't the brake light self contained? I know nothing about inspections. Minnesota doesn't have anything like that.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 29, 2017 15:41:45 GMT -5
I had my car in the repair shop last Friday. I now have new timing belt, water pump and pulleys. This plus an oil change was just under $1000. After the timing belt broke on TD's car with 75k miles and the same year, I've been worried that mine is going to go on time, rather than miles (105k miles or 105 months). And a a rock flew up on I5 and cracked my windshield on my way home.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 29, 2017 15:43:44 GMT -5
Ooh, I wanna play!!! the following things are broken on my car: -front passenger window doesn't roll down or up (it's a power window) -a light fender bender left my rear bumper slightly out of alignment on the left side, so there is a gap between my brake light and the bumper -various deep scratches The last time I was in a fender bender and my bumper got out of alignment, my entire bumper had to be replaced. I'm afraid that will happen again. It's not like the thing is hanging off - you literally can't tell it's crooked unless you are looking closely at the left brake light. But the last one was similar except it was the front bumper. Also, does the window have a separate motor from the car? And would I have to get the motor replaced or can it be fixed? I never worry about anything cosmetic. The window will have it's own motor and they'll most likely replace over fix. Unless it's something like an electical issue, it's probably that the motor itself is shot. Which reminds me, they also said I needed a new rear wiper blade. I'm like, "yeah...not really. The motor in the rear wiper quit a couple weeks ago". I'll pass on replacing the blade right now. This happened in my Mazda. Turned out the plastic piece on the motor which lifted the window broke off, but there was no way to replace it, you had to replace the whole flippin' motor. I think it was about $200.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 15:47:47 GMT -5
I swore I had the timing belt replaced not that long ago, but I looked back through and the only notes I have in my register that say anything about a belt is the serpentine belt in 2014. I don't think this is the same. There's another $500 bill that I have no idea what it was for, I'm going to dig through the files when I get home to see if I still have the receipt. If it's not the belt, then I've never had it done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 15:49:50 GMT -5
I never worry about anything cosmetic. The window will have it's own motor and they'll most likely replace over fix. Unless it's something like an electical issue, it's probably that the motor itself is shot. Which reminds me, they also said I needed a new rear wiper blade. I'm like, "yeah...not really. The motor in the rear wiper quit a couple weeks ago". I'll pass on replacing the blade right now. This happened in my Mazda. Turned out the plastic piece on the motor which lifted the window broke off, but there was no way to replace it, you had to replace the whole flippin' motor. I think it was about $200. I can get the motor off of ebay for $85 and it doesn't look that bad to replace. Just popping a lot of panels off to get to it. I'm not real worried about it now. I imagine come winter it will be a pain though.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 29, 2017 16:49:10 GMT -5
Thing 2 needs a timing chain $700, new tires $500, and to fix and oil leak $400. I thought about getting a different car, but it's old age stuff and not really anything "wrong". Plus, what if I get her a $2000 car since she's a teen driver and it needs work. I could just pay to fix a car that I know has been taken care of.
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Post by alabamagal on Jun 29, 2017 17:13:44 GMT -5
Ooh, I wanna play!!! the following things are broken on my car: -front passenger window doesn't roll down or up (it's a power window) -a light fender bender left my rear bumper slightly out of alignment on the left side, so there is a gap between my brake light and the bumper -various deep scratches The last time I was in a fender bender and my bumper got out of alignment, my entire bumper had to be replaced. I'm afraid that will happen again. It's not like the thing is hanging off - you literally can't tell it's crooked unless you are looking closely at the left brake light. But the last one was similar except it was the front bumper. Also, does the window have a separate motor from the car? And would I have to get the motor replaced or can it be fixed? When you have someone tailgating, hit the brakes so that they hit you and it is their fault and then they will have to replace your bumper. Of course you have to verify that they have insurance first.
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Post by alabamagal on Jun 29, 2017 17:19:45 GMT -5
My car needs front tires and a battery. Son-in-law was working at a repair place and verified these, but he recently went into army so my free repair advice is gone. Quote for battery replacement was $179 . When did batteries get so expensive. It is a tiny car, the battery can't be that big. I think I am going to just wait until it won't start. I also have a sensor that is out of whack, so about 10% of the time that I start the car, the traction control, anti-lock brake lights and hill start assist light comes on. If you turn the car off and back on most time it goes away. And since we took car on long trip last week it hasn't come on at all .
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Post by resolution on Jun 29, 2017 17:28:02 GMT -5
Ooh, I wanna play!!! the following things are broken on my car: -front passenger window doesn't roll down or up (it's a power window) - The last time I took a car in for the passenger window, I had accidentally hit the child safety switch and disabled it. Cheapest fix ever!
This week I replaced my rear struts, two rear tires, and realignment for $1100. We are going on a road trip next week so I had everything done right away. It is amazing how much quieter it rides when the struts aren't broken and the tires don't have uneven wear.
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Post by bean29 on Jun 29, 2017 17:38:53 GMT -5
Ooh, I wanna play!!! the following things are broken on my car: -front passenger window doesn't roll down or up (it's a power window) -a light fender bender left my rear bumper slightly out of alignment on the left side, so there is a gap between my brake light and the bumper -various deep scratches The last time I was in a fender bender and my bumper got out of alignment, my entire bumper had to be replaced. I'm afraid that will happen again. It's not like the thing is hanging off - you literally can't tell it's crooked unless you are looking closely at the left brake light. But the last one was similar except it was the front bumper. Also, does the window have a separate motor from the car? And would I have to get the motor replaced or can it be fixed? The window has a separate motor. My old van had a window that I would roll down (electronically and then I couldn't get it to go back up. usually if I pounded on the door it would decide to co-operate. I eventually decided to buy a new car. My DS has been driving the car for 5 years now. I am not sure if her DH fixed the window motor or not, but my guess is not.
Since my new car has about 3-4 payments left, the dealer has been sending me $10 oil change coupons. I was there last week. My VCT actuator was bad (it really was, it was grinding like the starter was going on start up). It did this since new. The service clerk told me his Accord does the same thing, but there is not a fix for an accord, but he said they could fix my CRV. I asked if it would be done under warranty, and he indicated he was pretty sure it would be. I had to leave the car overnight, so he set it up to be repaired last week. When the service clerk called he said it would be $600.00. My response was, I was told it would be covered under extended warranty. He said "who told you that". Well, they fixed it for free and charged me $10.00 for the oil change. They also gave me a list of things like your brakes need to be replaced etc, etc. I turned them down, paid for my oil change and go home. When I looked at my receipt to tell my DH what needed to be addressed - there was no repairs indicated other than the 90,000 mile service which is just checking fluid levels etc.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Jun 30, 2017 6:03:07 GMT -5
My car is going on 4 years old, 40k plus miles but doesn't need anything but a new right wiper blade.
Hubbys truck is now 11 years old and he said it will need brakes in the near future has 100k miles on it. I need to get touch up paint for the edge of the front fender where I scrapped off a few dots of paint, cost me $850 to fix my fender. I backed out, he had parked it to close to the garage exit and guess it was a blind spot. I scratched it a bit.
Hubby does most of our repairs, but the Lincoln truck has needed little, and my car just a couple things that were under warranty. Motor for roof window, replaced the TPMS deals on the tires and one for shutting and opening the rear hatch. He does go in for some items. Like the specia tool needed for the spark plugs on his truck, cost us $800 but he was afraid they would break off and some did. That year model they used some kind of spark plug that had problems.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 7:11:05 GMT -5
My car is going on 4 years old, 40k plus miles but doesn't need anything but a new right wiper blade.
Hubbys truck is now 11 years old and he said it will need brakes in the near future has 100k miles on it. I need to get touch up paint for the edge of the front fender where I scrapped off a few dots of paint, cost me $850 to fix my fender. I backed out, he had parked it to close to the garage exit and guess it was a blind spot. I scratched it a bit.
Hubby does most of our repairs, but the Lincoln truck has needed little, and my car just a couple things that were under warranty. Motor for roof window, replaced the TPMS deals on the tires and one for shutting and opening the rear hatch. He does go in for some items. Like the specia tool needed for the spark plugs on his truck, cost us $800 but he was afraid they would break off and some did. That year model they used some kind of spark plug that had problems. Considering my van is 12 years old with almost 200K miles on it, I think I've been doing pretty well. I pulled up the reports and I've spent just under 5K on it in the past 4 years, but that includes 2 new sets of tires, a $500 deer hit deductible and a raping by Honda when I took it to them for a check engine light. ($857 to replace a catalytic converter that didn't really need to be replaced). Remove this stuff and it comes to $2500 in the last 4 years, but that's everything. Oil changes, car washes, even parking ramp charges I dumped in maintenance category. Before that, pretty much nothing but oil changes and some more tires.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 30, 2017 8:21:33 GMT -5
I have had to get something on either the front or rear brakes repaired every 1.5-2 years like clockwork. Do brakes really have that many parts needing to be replaced/fixed? I mean I don't think I'm a crazy driver at all, so what's with all the brake repairs? My last two cars didn't have anywhere near these type of issues. Remind me never to get a Hyundai again.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Jun 30, 2017 9:26:57 GMT -5
I can't imagine that, does seem odd. My car nothing so far and I'm not sure but maybe brake shoes on the truck once. I would have to go through the bills, but seems like at 60k we put on new tires and shoes?? Hubby said I likely did they generally don't go 100k with no replacement.
But no engine repairs on it. Fords are good vehicles especially the F 150, and the Lincoln is basically a glorified Ford, though it does have more capacity.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 9:32:11 GMT -5
I have had to get something on either the front or rear brakes repaired every 1.5-2 years like clockwork. Do brakes really have that many parts needing to be replaced/fixed? I mean I don't think I'm a crazy driver at all, so what's with all the brake repairs? My last two cars didn't have anywhere near these type of issues. Remind me never to get a Hyundai again. I think I've just done brakes once in the past 6 years, but it was the whole deal. New pads and rotors all around. City driving is a lot harder on brakes. I am 15 miles from work and have to stop at most three times if the two lights are red.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jun 30, 2017 9:37:53 GMT -5
I have had to get something on either the front or rear brakes repaired every 1.5-2 years like clockwork. Do brakes really have that many parts needing to be replaced/fixed? I mean I don't think I'm a crazy driver at all, so what's with all the brake repairs? My last two cars didn't have anywhere near these type of issues. Remind me never to get a Hyundai again. Seems like my Jetta went through brakes all of the time. It's probably just the specific model of car. My xSIL had a car whose brakes would go bad if the emergency brake wasn't used every so often.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 30, 2017 9:39:19 GMT -5
I have had to get something on either the front or rear brakes repaired every 1.5-2 years like clockwork. Do brakes really have that many parts needing to be replaced/fixed? I mean I don't think I'm a crazy driver at all, so what's with all the brake repairs? My last two cars didn't have anywhere near these type of issues. Remind me never to get a Hyundai again. I think I've just done brakes once in the past 6 years, but it was the whole deal. New pads and rotors all around. City driving is a lot harder on brakes. I am 15 miles from work and have to stop at most three times if the two lights are red. oh yeah, I play the "stop and go" game a LOT.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 9:44:18 GMT -5
Thing 2 needs a timing chain $700, new tires $500, and to fix and oil leak $400. I thought about getting a different car, but it's old age stuff and not really anything "wrong". Plus, what if I get her a $2000 car since she's a teen driver and it needs work. I could just pay to fix a car that I know has been taken care of. This is my thought. Unless I go out and spend a lot of money on something significantly newer I'm just trading the devil I know for the devil I don't if I get something else and since I'm looking to have something for a teen to drive next year I don't want it to be an expensive vehicle that would cost me a fortune to insure with a teen behind the wheel. A few thousand without collision insurance on it is all I want to risk.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 9:46:08 GMT -5
I think I've just done brakes once in the past 6 years, but it was the whole deal. New pads and rotors all around. City driving is a lot harder on brakes. I am 15 miles from work and have to stop at most three times if the two lights are red. oh yeah, I play the "stop and go" game a LOT. My neighbor is a rural mail carrier. She replaces her Honda CRV brakes something crazy like a couple times a year. (Maybe it's not that much, but she told me once a while back and I was like "holy crap!")
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jun 30, 2017 9:50:38 GMT -5
There are different kinds of brake pads, too. DH opted for the more expensive (kind of material--can't remember what it was) ones on our old car so that they would last longer.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 30, 2017 10:35:54 GMT -5
Thing 2 needs a timing chain $700, new tires $500, and to fix and oil leak $400. I thought about getting a different car, but it's old age stuff and not really anything "wrong". Plus, what if I get her a $2000 car since she's a teen driver and it needs work. I could just pay to fix a car that I know has been taken care of. This is my thought. Unless I go out and spend a lot of money on something significantly newer I'm just trading the devil I know for the devil I don't if I get something else and since I'm looking to have something for a teen to drive next year I don't want it to be an expensive vehicle that would cost me a fortune to insure with a teen behind the wheel. A few thousand without collision insurance on it is all I want to risk. I just need to get a few more years out of the maxima and then she can have the rogue and I'll get a new car.
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Post by tskeeter on Jul 1, 2017 1:54:15 GMT -5
I have had to get something on either the front or rear brakes repaired every 1.5-2 years like clockwork. Do brakes really have that many parts needing to be replaced/fixed? I mean I don't think I'm a crazy driver at all, so what's with all the brake repairs? My last two cars didn't have anywhere near these type of issues. Remind me never to get a Hyundai again. How many miles are you putting on the car in that time? Are you getting the cheap brake pads or the good ones? I've had cheap original equipment pads last 20K miles. These were replaced with good quality pads that lasted 80K miles. With brakes, use the good parts. The real cost of brake repairs is the labor.
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Post by Bob Ross on Jul 6, 2017 9:43:10 GMT -5
Since you said "van", my vote goes to none of it. The goal with a van is to get it as rusty and creepy as possible. Unless it is in fact a lame-wad minivan, in which case you should have specified.
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