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Post by Value Buy on Dec 3, 2016 11:32:25 GMT -5
I'd still like to know how he got into Ohio state and who paid for it? It's not an easy school to get into and very expensive . Wanna bet there is a government program giving him and other refugees a virtual free ride at the University of their choice where they plan to attack?
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 3, 2016 11:38:57 GMT -5
forgive me for saying so, but i can handle a knife attack, as a general rule. if knives were the ONLY issue here, i would be a very contented American. I went thru basic training in the Army in 1969, and then advanced training to be a Military policeman. Believe me when I say, you can never assume you can handle yourself in a knife attack especially if you are the first unassuming target. Maybe a Navy Seal trained type can, but if you do not anticipate the attack before it happens, most are toast before you even realize it happened. We are talking about people who are not holding a knife outward, saying, "give me your valuables or I will cut you". These are people that slit you first, then proclaim Allah is Great.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 3, 2016 12:17:03 GMT -5
Trauma is trauma. Every time they look at their wounds and pay the bills associated with being another victim of a criminal, they'll remember. Living in fear because our "leaders" are chicken shit is awful. This stops on Day One in January We will make America Great again! oh stop it. you sound as naiive as Obama supporters did with their "Hope and Change" crap in 2008.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 3, 2016 12:18:53 GMT -5
forgive me for saying so, but i (or WE, if that makes it clearer) can handle a knife attack, as a general rule. if knives were the ONLY issue here, i would be a very contented American. I went thru basic training in the Army in 1969, and then advanced training to be a Military policeman. Believe me when I say, you can never assume you can handle yourself in a knife attack especially if you are the first unassuming target. Maybe a Navy Seal trained type can, but if you do not anticipate the attack before it happens, most are toast before you even realize it happened. We are talking about people who are not holding a knife outward, saying, "give me your valuables or I will cut you". These are people that slit you first, then proclaim Allah is Great. hand to hand combat? that's crazy talk. this is what i had in mind when i posted that:
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 3, 2016 14:13:23 GMT -5
I went thru basic training in the Army in 1969, and then advanced training to be a Military policeman. Believe me when I say, you can never assume you can handle yourself in a knife attack especially if you are the first unassuming target. Maybe a Navy Seal trained type can, but if you do not anticipate the attack before it happens, most are toast before you even realize it happened. We are talking about people who are not holding a knife outward, saying, "give me your valuables or I will cut you". These are people that slit you first, then proclaim Allah is Great. It's pretty easy to be an internet bad-ass too...I suspect reality is a bit different though. Especially if the assailant is hopped up on drugs or something. i didn't say anything about combat. jesus, man. it's not enough to just guess wrong about something- you have to manufacture an elaborate fiction to go along with it? edit: one other question- is your head spilling over with imagined demons, or just me?
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Post by Opti on Dec 3, 2016 15:19:21 GMT -5
Trauma is trauma. Every time they look at their wounds and pay the bills associated with being another victim of a criminal, they'll remember. Living in fear because our "leaders" are chicken shit is awful. This stops on Day One in January We will make America Great again! Its not going to stop simply because Trump becomes President. The last three incidents involved young men, this recent one was the youngest and in the country the shortest time. Men who lose hope and go crazy aren't going to care that Trump is President. Think of Israel and Palestine. Israel has a hard ass reputation, but still the attacks come. Young men have gone bat shit crazy since the 1700s in this country doing mass or attempted mass murder. No President is going to stop that. Not even the best law enforcement local and state-wide.
You might get attacked some day by a crazed human being. Its a risk we all have unless we hide in our homes and are lucky. Maybe possibly if Trump deports every Muslim male in the country and lets no new ones in we might not have any crazed Muslim shooting or stabbing of others in the US. But that won't stop the school shooters, and homegrown folks who come up with new shit like shooting up a theatre.
Does making America great again including cozying up to the leader of Pakistan? Because I'm pretty sure that's where naturalized NJ or MN crazy visited to get radicalized.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 4, 2016 16:46:09 GMT -5
It is amazing how many people here are now international pundits that know the correct way of handling all these rogue nations.
Like Obama has held them all in place for seven years. Outside of illegal drone strikes killing lots of civilians, what has he done that make you think Trump does not have the correct answer?
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Post by Opti on Dec 4, 2016 17:00:34 GMT -5
It is amazing how many people here are now international pundits that know the correct way of handling all these rogue nations. Like Obama has held them all in place for seven years. Outside of illegal drone strikes killing lots of civilians, what has he done that make you think Trump does not have the correct answer? I'm not an international pundit, however I am a huge fan of films and have watched quite a bit from Bollywood. More than a few of those have addressed the issue of Muslim terrorists in India. Some concern Muslim on Hindu violence and vice versa. I've learned quite a bit about India and a bit about Pakistan through the possibly hundreds of films I've watched. Then there is info culled from and checked against co-workers originally from those countries.
That is only part of the reason I know Trump does not have the correct answer. If you don't understand the problem, it is unlikely you will hit on a good solution. Now if he's only chatting up Pakistan while remaining on decent terms with India, it will be interesting to see how it turns out. Obama really can't do anything about lone wolf attacks. I hope we don't need to find out Trump cannot either, but don't be shocked when it happens.
I hope whatever the US has in place continues to shut down more planned multi-person attacks. Because I have a feeling planning will ramp up January and forward. ISIS is pleased Trump has won. They will use that to launch their hoped for war or whatever it will be.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 4, 2016 17:08:41 GMT -5
It is amazing how many people here are now international pundits that know the correct way of handling all these rogue nations. Like Obama has held them all in place for seven years. Outside of illegal drone strikes killing lots of civilians, what has he done that make you think Trump does not have the correct answer? because there is no evidence that he has the slightest idea of what the problem is, and who he is dealing with. NOTE: for the record, Obama didn't do a very good job either, but at least he understood the language of the debate.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 5, 2016 7:26:06 GMT -5
It is amazing how many people here are now international pundits that know the correct way of handling all these rogue nations. Like Obama has held them all in place for seven years. Outside of illegal drone strikes killing lots of civilians, what has he done that make you think Trump does not have the correct answer? I'm not an international pundit, however I am a huge fan of films and have watched quite a bit from Bollywood. More than a few of those have addressed the issue of Muslim terrorists in India. Some concern Muslim on Hindu violence and vice versa. I've learned quite a bit about India and a bit about Pakistan through the possibly hundreds of films I've watched. Then there is info culled from and checked against co-workers originally from those countries.
That is only part of the reason I know Trump does not have the correct answer. If you don't understand the problem, it is unlikely you will hit on a good solution. Now if he's only chatting up Pakistan while remaining on decent terms with India, it will be interesting to see how it turns out. Obama really can't do anything about lone wolf attacks. I hope we don't need to find out Trump cannot either, but don't be shocked when it happens.
I hope whatever the US has in place continues to shut down more planned multi-person attacks. Because I have a feeling planning will ramp up January and forward. ISIS is pleased Trump has won. They will use that to launch their hoped for war or whatever it will be.
Bollywood? Indian films? No bias could possibly come from Hollywood east Wow, just wow. And yet you condemn rightwing news sites.......
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