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Post by steff on Jul 19, 2016 0:10:12 GMT -5
Oh no she didnt....oh yes she did! Looks like First Nude candidate for 1st lady, Miss Melly googled "1st lady convention speeches" and then wrote her speech all by herself! With a little plagiarizing from Michelle Obama's convention speech. LOLOL there are links everywhere about it, but this one had the best comments. Including the "googled 1st lady convention speeches" comment I just stole. gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 19, 2016 0:18:40 GMT -5
Oh no she didnt....oh yes she did! Looks like First Nude candidate for 1st lady, Miss Melly googled "1st lady convention speeches" and then wrote her speech all by herself! With a little plagiarizing from Michelle Obama's convention speech. LOLOL there are links everywhere about it, but this one had the best comments. Including the "googled 1st lady convention speeches" comment I just stole. gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522Lol! She said she wrote it all by herself. Hey, I thought Trump wasn't allowed to use "We are the Champions". The band didn't want him using their music.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 19, 2016 0:25:10 GMT -5
Oh no she didnt....oh yes she did! Looks like First Nude candidate for 1st lady, Miss Melly googled "1st lady convention speeches" and then wrote her speech all by herself! With a little plagiarizing from Michelle Obama's convention speech. LOLOL there are links everywhere about it, but this one had the best comments. Including the "googled 1st lady convention speeches" comment I just stole. gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522Lol! She said she wrote it all by herself. Hey, I thought Trump wasn't allowed to use "We are the Champions". The band didn't want him using their music. he doesn't give a fuck. he has overpriced lawyers to settle out of court for him.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 19, 2016 0:26:10 GMT -5
i watched that poor woman crying over her dead son (Benghazi) for a few mins. that was enough for me. i'll wait for the debates. Cmon, now you know both of us will tune in the Democratic debate. We will not be able to help ourselves We both like train wrecks i like all kinds of wrecks. of machinery. i am not so hot on the human kind.
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Post by steff on Jul 19, 2016 0:42:22 GMT -5
Good thing Melly didn't copy the part about "It was tough growing up as a little black girl in Chicago" from the same speech she lifted the Obama praise from. Obama should call her up and say "hey, heard you were talking about me last night". LOLOLOLOL
this one just cracks me up. Bragged about 5 weeks to write the speech all by her little lonesome. So hard. And then copies it almost word for word from parts of Michelle Obama's speech. You can't make this kind of stupidity up. Did they think no one would check? did she spend 1 day on the speech, 6 days picking a hair style & 4 weeks to sample designer dresses? And Republicans spend 7 years slamming Michelle Obama and then allow a speech lifted from her to start off their convention? Are they in on the joke? From the most educated 1st lady in history to the possibility of a nude model who can barely speak? I mean REALLY? It's like we're in the skewed time line from Back to the Future 2.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 19, 2016 0:48:34 GMT -5
hey, she borrows from the best! no better compliment on earth than being plagiarized.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 1:29:09 GMT -5
Good thing Melly didn't copy the part about "It was tough growing up as a little black girl in Chicago" from the same speech she lifted the Obama praise from. Obama should call her up and say "hey, heard you were talking about me last night". LOLOLOLOL this one just cracks me up. Bragged about 5 weeks to write the speech all by her little lonesome. So hard. And then copies it almost word for word from parts of Michelle Obama's speech. You can't make this kind of stupidity up. Did they think no one would check? did she spend 1 day on the speech, 6 days picking a hair style & 4 weeks to sample designer dresses? And Republicans spend 7 years slamming Michelle Obama and then allow a speech lifted from her to start off their convention? Are they in on the joke? From the most educated 1st lady in history to the possibility of a nude model who can barely speak? I mean REALLY? It's like we're in the skewed time line from Back to the Future 2. Since all the rest of your post refers to Michelle Obama's speech... I'm confused as to whom you are referring. I don't know that there is a "most educated 1st lady in history"... but if there is Ms. Obama ain't it.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 19, 2016 4:35:28 GMT -5
Curious that they're demanding a vote for the right to vote on rules on how delegates vote to elect a candidate the public can vote for. Don't you mean: "They were demanding for a right to vote on rules on how delegates could vote to elect a candidate in opposition of the voter's votes that already voted for the person they voted for, and so the delegates could then violate their oaths that they took when they became delegates and instead vote for someone the voters said that they didn't want"? Something like that. I do grasp the irony of the situation. I don't have TV and I wouldn't watch the convention proceedings even if I did, but I'm curious if there's going to be an attempted "coup" by delegates at the RNC. I know the odds are slim to none, even on an attempt, but that would be something worth watching. I'd live stream it just to see the look on Mr. Trump's face. Wait...what? Didn't you say you have a list of commercials you hate and won't buy the products on principle? We visit my grandparents in Mississauga often. Sometimes I watch TV over there. I like some of the shows on "Animal Planet" and a show called "Forensic Files" on "HLN". They have a DVR, hence commercials aren't a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 5:51:20 GMT -5
That (the personal opinion found at that link) doesn't make her "the most Educated First Lady"... sorry. That just makes her one of at least three to have gone to two colleges. Her first "Accomplishment" (skipping second grade)... not exactly a challenge. I was in first grade with two students that did it... both of whom ended up as dropouts (last I heard anyway... that was 30-odd years ago though... they could have gotten G.E.D.'s since then). And much as I DESPISE Hillary Clinton, she also attended two colleges, both of which she also graduated from (Wellesley College, B.A., 1969; Yale University Law School, J.D., 1973). Interestingly enough, the EXACT SAME degrees as Obama (a B.A. and a J.D.). On to Laura Bush... she attended and graduated from two colleges as well (Southern Methodist University, B.S., 1968; University of Texas at Austin, M.L.S., 1973). Add to that, the fact that any education Michelle Obama received at those two colleges apparently didn't stick (I understand that her Thesis was full of poor grammar and poor spelling)... So... I ask again Which "First Lady" are you referring to since it cannot be Michelle Obama.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 5:57:48 GMT -5
Your opinion is just 'valuable' as the ones you dismiss...
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 19, 2016 6:39:41 GMT -5
I hadn't heard the first one, wow. but I saw that Melania post last night, and the plagiarism talk is all over the place this morning. it's going to be an interesting week for sure. oh, and I need to find a link to share back - apparently Luttrell's "breakdown" and everything after it was all on the teleprompter. imagine that.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 19, 2016 6:42:40 GMT -5
Trump will now have to drop the 'Crooked Hillary' shtick. As we now have a 'Crooked Trump, Plagarizer-In-Chief'.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 19, 2016 6:49:56 GMT -5
And let's never again hear about Obama and teleprompters. Trump now owns it. This entry will go down in teleprompter history.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 8:01:27 GMT -5
Your opinion is just 'valuable' as the ones you dismiss... Mine is based on facts. The one that welts linked to (and steff "yeah, that"d)... well... not so much.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 19, 2016 8:01:45 GMT -5
Rudy is in need of a thorazine enema.
I wouldn't want to live next door to Mark Luttrell.
Mrs. Smith needs some serious grief counseling and then a FedEx of all 9-10 Benghazi reports before she claims Hillary is at fault for her son's death and should be in prison.
On a more positive note I saw 4 Black people in the crowd and 1 speaking. Can't say I saw any Hispanics. Agree about the first sentence. He was on fire last night! Do not be so hard on Luttrell. I assume you do know what he went through. Yes, the lack of blacks is alarming. Problem is those delegates are elected in specific districts. I would imagine if there were black Republicans in the inner cities of major cities, they could easily be elected. As Democrats in inner cities they are easily elected as delegates. Even I have to admit I have no clue who was on my Republican ballot, and who they were actually backing in the primary. I might have actually voted for people who were Cruz backers and not even know it. It is a crazy system. Hispanics, or Spanish surnamed Americans? Many have what are considered mainstream white Protestant or Catholic names, not representative of their actual total heritage. Unless you expected some sombreros on their heads to be obvious for people to see, you did see some.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 19, 2016 8:06:01 GMT -5
I saw Melania's speech last night. Thought it was great! Yes, it was stolen for Michelle Obama............. OOPS! Is this the straw we have been waiting for?
It sort of looks like Paul Manafort (sp) has doubled down this morning.
Has he decided to be the sacrificial lamb to be slaughtered?
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 19, 2016 8:15:59 GMT -5
MSNBC is saying Melania was pissed because the kids pushed Pence onto Donald who did not want him, and that is why she was not there for the announcement of Pence as a running mate. They also reported her speech and response to it this morning now falls into a "save Donald Trump's marriage" scene today.
Seriously?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 19, 2016 8:19:39 GMT -5
I saw Melania's speech last night. Thought it was great! Yes, it was stolen for Michelle Obama............. OOPS! Is this the straw we have been waiting for? It sort of looks like Paul Manafort (sp) has doubled down this morning. Has he decided to be the sacrificial lamb to be slaughtered? The Trumps are already stealing from the White House and they aren't even elected yet.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 19, 2016 8:22:33 GMT -5
And here I thought Rudy was on fire last night. You are good!
Seriously, I have no problem with your message!
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 19, 2016 8:28:33 GMT -5
And here I thought Rudy was on fire last night. You are good! Seriously, I have no problem with your message! Good. Because I will be repeating it through November 8th. I also will be repeating Trump's 5th Avenue quote, his blacks and Jews handling his money quote, along with not paying businesses and craftsmen for their work, and discriminating against people of color and denying them housing where the Justice department had to get involved-twice. Things that affect our average Americans. .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 8:39:59 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that makes me wonder if it's all a trump/Clinton conspiracy to get her elected...
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 19, 2016 8:48:27 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that makes me wonder if it's all a trump/Clinton conspiracy to get her elected... I don't believe Trump's ego would even allow such a thing. His reality TV shows were called The Apprentice and Celebrity Apprentice and not The Biggest Loser.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 19, 2016 9:54:12 GMT -5
I'm surprised Melania Trump didn't express her love and admiration for her two beautiful daughters, Sasha and Malia.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 19, 2016 10:00:03 GMT -5
I saw Melania's speech last night. Thought it was great! Yes, it was stolen for Michelle Obama............. OOPS! Is this the straw we have been waiting for? It sort of looks like Paul Manafort (sp) has doubled down this morning. Has he decided to be the sacrificial lamb to be slaughtered? What's interesting about Melana's speech last night was that she bragged about writing it with her own little hands.
However, now that it was obvious that parts were plagiarized, suddenly the Trump Team is claiming she didn't actually write it. A 'team' of speechwriters wrote it.
The best thing Trump could have done was nip this in the bud, admitted parts of the speech were borrowed, and fired the person who 'wrote' the speech when this story first broke. Then move quickly onto to something else.
Instead he sends out Manafort to insist that it wasn't plagiarized, that they were just 'common' words' that just happened to get assembled in almost exactly the same way that parts of Michelle's speech got assembled. You know - accidentally, the way those things do all the time.
So - either Malena actually DID write the speech (and she lies as much as her husband does - after all, he didn't write a single word of his book The Art of the Deal which he brags about writing) OR one of Trump's kids wrote it, and Trump can't fire either his wife or a family member.
So - since he hasn't been able to nip this quickly, it may mushroom up to be a Big Deal. According to Trump's ghostwriter (the guy who actually wrote 'The Art of the Deal') Trump is a pathological liar and when caught in a bald face lie will simply repeat the lie. So I don't see him admitting or apologizing for someone on his team (or in his family) lifting parts of Michelle's speech. Will this and the fact that the convention started in chaos with Colorado delegates walking out be enough to scare off voters? Who knows. Voters be crazy.
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Post by Opti on Jul 19, 2016 10:07:02 GMT -5
MSNBC is saying Melania was pissed because the kids pushed Pence onto Donald who did not want him, and that is why she was not there for the announcement of Pence as a running mate. They also reported her speech and response to it this morning now falls into a "save Donald Trump's marriage" scene today.
Seriously? Seriously. He's not regular folk. He's been known to take failures and missteps so personally he will punish whoever is involved. It makes me wonder if this is part of the reason the claims of plagiarism have been so remarkably gentle and softball.
Given this I think she should remain in the background where she prefers to be. And I really hope she does not become first lady.
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Post by bean29 on Jul 19, 2016 10:43:37 GMT -5
Meh, so what if part of her speech was plagiarized. Is it not conceivable that her parents instilled in her that she needs to work hard for what she wants in life? To me it is something all good parents instill in their children.
I am aware that it may have been plagiarized, but count me as someone who thinks it is not really a big deal. I still plan to vote democrat (as in there is no way in hell I will vote for Donald, and a slim chance I would vote for a Republican anyways).
I thought Melania did a very good job speaking last night. She may not have a degree but don't they say she speaks about 5 languages? My DH thought her accent was hard to understand and that her English was not so good - but I had no problem understanding her.
As far as I am concerned Hillary and Michelle have equivalent educations - I would have a hard time calling one more educated than the other. Isn't a JD equivalent to a Doctorate? Not dissing Laura Bush's Masters at all, but it is not = to a JD right?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jul 19, 2016 11:04:46 GMT -5
Twenty one words in a row the same as Michelle Obama's speech. Yes it was plagiarized. That was only the beginning of Trumps problem. His campaign handled the fact poorly trying to say it was common words and Melania wrote it. Then no she didn't write it. Looks like Trump has surrounded himself with incompetent liars like himself.
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