Miss Tequila
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 20, 2019 9:20:11 GMT -5
fair enough. I still think there are better ways to find out whether or not someone is a clock puncher than to ask if they have any personal obligations after 6pm. There are plenty of people with obligations who still make sure they get the job done whether that means staying late or not (LIKE ME), and there are people with nothing at all going on who leave exactly when the clock strikes 5/6. I'm way lot on this as I'm just catching up. I can tell you that at my former company, I was very clear that there would be some long days as we had extremely tight deadlines. I didn't care if it was someone with childcare issues or someone who went to a gym class everyday after work, I needed to know then I wouldn't be hiring someone who looked at the clock and left exactly at 5 if there was still stuff to get out. On the flip side, that company was not a fit for someone with young children that you actually wanted to spend time with. That is not a knock on working women...there is a reason I left that company. So when I interview for positions going forward, I would look at that question as a signal for me to perhaps walk away. I never, ever want to work for a company like the one I just left. They paid me great money but in the end, I was never more miserable than I was making more money than I ever imagined I would. F that!
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Post by MJ2.0 on Feb 20, 2019 10:55:42 GMT -5
fair enough. I still think there are better ways to find out whether or not someone is a clock puncher than to ask if they have any personal obligations after 6pm. There are plenty of people with obligations who still make sure they get the job done whether that means staying late or not (LIKE ME), and there are people with nothing at all going on who leave exactly when the clock strikes 5/6. I'm way lot on this as I'm just catching up. I can tell you that at my former company, I was very clear that there would be some long days as we had extremely tight deadlines. I didn't care if it was someone with childcare issues or someone who went to a gym class everyday after work, I needed to know then I wouldn't be hiring someone who looked at the clock and left exactly at 5 if there was still stuff to get out. On the flip side, that company was not a fit for someone with young children that you actually wanted to spend time with. That is not a knock on working women...there is a reason I left that company. So when I interview for positions going forward, I would look at that question as a signal for me to perhaps walk away. I never, ever want to work for a company like the one I just left. They paid me great money but in the end, I was never more miserable than I was making more money than I ever imagined I would. F that! The really weird thing about that whole situation was that the group I'll be working with and their immediate manager all said many times that staying late is rare and usually not more than 15-20 mins, so I don't understand why the higher manager was so hung up on it...
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Post by taz157 on Feb 20, 2019 11:13:21 GMT -5
I'm way lot on this as I'm just catching up. I can tell you that at my former company, I was very clear that there would be some long days as we had extremely tight deadlines. I didn't care if it was someone with childcare issues or someone who went to a gym class everyday after work, I needed to know then I wouldn't be hiring someone who looked at the clock and left exactly at 5 if there was still stuff to get out. On the flip side, that company was not a fit for someone with young children that you actually wanted to spend time with. That is not a knock on working women...there is a reason I left that company. So when I interview for positions going forward, I would look at that question as a signal for me to perhaps walk away. I never, ever want to work for a company like the one I just left. They paid me great money but in the end, I was never more miserable than I was making more money than I ever imagined I would. F that! The really weird thing about that whole situation was that the group I'll be working with and their immediate manager all said many times that staying late is rare and usually not more than 15-20 mins, so I don't understand why the higher manager was so hung up on it... Is this the company that offered you the job?
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Post by MJ2.0 on Feb 20, 2019 11:15:19 GMT -5
yup. So now I'm not sure what to expect but I'm guessing the underlings have it more right than the highest manager I spoke to, seeing as they are the ones dealing with the workload every day.
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Post by chapeau on Feb 20, 2019 12:45:12 GMT -5
I wonder if the underlings or the middle boss do the "Well, we had to stay late due to X, or Y or Z, but we managed it. You've got a really good team here, they're always willing to go the extra mile." I've had bosses that didn't realize just how easy it was to fix something and were always incredibly grateful that I did something that took 2 whole mouse clicks, so I got some leeway with less easy to fix things.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 20, 2019 13:08:09 GMT -5
fair enough. I still think there are better ways to find out whether or not someone is a clock puncher than to ask if they have any personal obligations after 6pm. There are plenty of people with obligations who still make sure they get the job done whether that means staying late or not (LIKE ME), and there are people with nothing at all going on who leave exactly when the clock strikes 5/6. I'm way lot on this as I'm just catching up. I can tell you that at my former company, I was very clear that there would be some long days as we had extremely tight deadlines. I didn't care if it was someone with childcare issues or someone who went to a gym class everyday after work, I needed to know then I wouldn't be hiring someone who looked at the clock and left exactly at 5 if there was still stuff to get out. On the flip side, that company was not a fit for someone with young children that you actually wanted to spend time with. That is not a knock on working women...there is a reason I left that company. So when I interview for positions going forward, I would look at that question as a signal for me to perhaps walk away. I never, ever want to work for a company like the one I just left. They paid me great money but in the end, I was never more miserable than I was making more money than I ever imagined I would. F that! Wait. Didn't you have a 6 month wait to leave? Do I have you confused with someone else? Is the 6 months up, or did you say eff it?
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 20, 2019 13:12:17 GMT -5
Congrats on the new job, MJ!
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 20, 2019 13:16:10 GMT -5
fair enough. I still think there are better ways to find out whether or not someone is a clock puncher than to ask if they have any personal obligations after 6pm. There are plenty of people with obligations who still make sure they get the job done whether that means staying late or not (LIKE ME), and there are people with nothing at all going on who leave exactly when the clock strikes 5/6. I'm way lot on this as I'm just catching up. I can tell you that at my former company, I was very clear that there would be some long days as we had extremely tight deadlines. I didn't care if it was someone with childcare issues or someone who went to a gym class everyday after work, I needed to know then I wouldn't be hiring someone who looked at the clock and left exactly at 5 if there was still stuff to get out. On the flip side, that company was not a fit for someone with young children that you actually wanted to spend time with. That is not a knock on working women...there is a reason I left that company. So when I interview for positions going forward, I would look at that question as a signal for me to perhaps walk away. I never, ever want to work for a company like the one I just left. They paid me great money but in the end, I was never more miserable than I was making more money than I ever imagined I would. F that! Not to be so I told you so, but I suggest several times the reason pregnant/child care was such a hiring issue for you was because the company was kinda being a jerk. So, told ya so!!!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 20, 2019 13:39:05 GMT -5
I'm way lot on this as I'm just catching up. I can tell you that at my former company, I was very clear that there would be some long days as we had extremely tight deadlines. I didn't care if it was someone with childcare issues or someone who went to a gym class everyday after work, I needed to know then I wouldn't be hiring someone who looked at the clock and left exactly at 5 if there was still stuff to get out. On the flip side, that company was not a fit for someone with young children that you actually wanted to spend time with. That is not a knock on working women...there is a reason I left that company. So when I interview for positions going forward, I would look at that question as a signal for me to perhaps walk away. I never, ever want to work for a company like the one I just left. They paid me great money but in the end, I was never more miserable than I was making more money than I ever imagined I would. F that! Not to be so I told you so, but I suggest several times the reason pregnant/child care was such a hiring issue for you was because the company was kinda being a jerk. So, told ya so!!! [img src="http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/tongue2.png" class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png" alt=" "] Yes and no. Even before my company turned into the shit show that it was, I had a Controller go out on maternity leave. It was in a company that I oversaw but in a different country. She had a clerk who worked for her and that was it. So it was up to me and the clerk to cover for her. That required very long hours for both of us, not to mention many trips for me to that country (a short 10 hour flight!). It only really got bad there my last 2 years when we were bought out by the current parent company. Workload went through the roof without adding any staff. But even before that, when someone went out on maternity leave it really did cause a hardship on the rest of us. The assistant controller went out 3 years ago and it was up to just a few of us to cover for her. Work still has to get done when a person is out. Again, a clerk level is fairly easy to cover for but not so much so the higher up you go. And it would be the same if a man went out for surgery but I have yet to have it be a man who goes out for months at a time. Actually, it was the same when I went out for surgery. The difference is that I was out for 9 days not 3 or 4 months. I was out the equivalent of a long vacation, which is not insurmountable. And I was able to schedule mine to make sure it didn't conflict with anything deadline wise. To have someone go out for several months is a major hardship on the remaining employees. And if there is an organization where a few people can easily absorb 40 hours worth of work, they are overstaffed to begin with.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 20, 2019 13:42:04 GMT -5
I'm way lot on this as I'm just catching up. I can tell you that at my former company, I was very clear that there would be some long days as we had extremely tight deadlines. I didn't care if it was someone with childcare issues or someone who went to a gym class everyday after work, I needed to know then I wouldn't be hiring someone who looked at the clock and left exactly at 5 if there was still stuff to get out. On the flip side, that company was not a fit for someone with young children that you actually wanted to spend time with. That is not a knock on working women...there is a reason I left that company. So when I interview for positions going forward, I would look at that question as a signal for me to perhaps walk away. I never, ever want to work for a company like the one I just left. They paid me great money but in the end, I was never more miserable than I was making more money than I ever imagined I would. F that! Wait. Didn't you have a 6 month wait to leave? Do I have you confused with someone else? Is the 6 months up, or did you say eff it? That was me! But, the new president F'd me over with my severance. My severance agreement was written in such a way that it did appear that I only got paid if they terminated me. I saw an attorney and would have had to stay the 6 months and then sue (they did pay out 2 prior people when they resigned). I decided to say F them and left. Their attorney did send me a letter that they are considering suing me for not abiding by the agreement but I think that was because they know I had a decent case if I didn't walk. In the end, I would rather be happy than have the money. I can make more money, I can't get back those 6 months.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 20, 2019 13:42:32 GMT -5
yup. So now I'm not sure what to expect but I'm guessing the underlings have it more right than the highest manager I spoke to, seeing as they are the ones dealing with the workload every day. Congratulations!!
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 22, 2019 1:28:06 GMT -5
yup. So now I'm not sure what to expect but I'm guessing the underlings have it more right than the highest manager I spoke to, seeing as they are the ones dealing with the workload every day. Congratulations!! Ditto!!!
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 22, 2019 5:35:47 GMT -5
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Post by MJ2.0 on Feb 22, 2019 9:58:44 GMT -5
So the UE office decided that since I had signed up to work for the sub company the week of 2/9, I had returned to work and was no longer eligible for benefits despite the fact that I hadn't actually signed up to work any shifts yet. The last week of benefits was 2/9, I start at the new place 3/4, and each paycheck is from the prior 2 weeks, so I may not be getting paid for 3-4 more weeks. So I really need UE before my start date. The website directed me to call the UE office line if I had not yet returned to work, so I did. I can't get through to an actual agent and there's no option to hold or leave a message - it just says to call back on the next business day and hangs up. Apparently I'm supposed to call right at open? They open at 8am tomorrow, so I'll start dialing in at 7:55. This is such a broken system.
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Post by gs11rmb on Feb 22, 2019 10:49:56 GMT -5
Sorry MJ2.0 that's really rough.
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Post by steph08 on Feb 22, 2019 11:35:50 GMT -5
That sucks, MJ. I hope you can get it worked out.
I put in my notice to my current job. It's such a weight off my shoulders.
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Post by shanendoah on Feb 22, 2019 12:23:29 GMT -5
So the UE office decided that since I had signed up to work for the sub company the week of 2/9, I had returned to work and was no longer eligible for benefits despite the fact that I hadn't actually signed up to work any shifts yet. The last week of benefits was 2/9, I start at the new place 3/4, and each paycheck is from the prior 2 weeks, so I may not be getting paid for 3-4 more weeks. So I really need UE before my start date. The website directed me to call the UE office line if I had not yet returned to work, so I did. I can't get through to an actual agent and there's no option to hold or leave a message - it just says to call back on the next business day and hangs up. Apparently I'm supposed to call right at open? They open at 8am tomorrow, so I'll start dialing in at 7:55. This is such a broken system. So many UE offices have gone to that mentality. It's terrible, because all the hassle involved in trying to deal with them actually has a negative impact on people's ability to work.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 22, 2019 12:36:36 GMT -5
I’ve always wondered why they shit all over the people who actually work but those on welfare are treated with kid gloves
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 22, 2019 12:44:10 GMT -5
I was let go once and applied for UE. The next time I went to my weekend reserve duty I put in for my mandatory annual 2 week duty so when I got a job I wouldn't have to ask to be off. UE denied paying me for those 2 weeks saying I was employed. Surprised they didn't doc me for the 1 weekend a month.
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 22, 2019 12:47:28 GMT -5
I’ve always wondered why they shit all over the people who actually work but those on welfare are treated with kid gloves The system is definitely broken but somehow I don't believe that people on welfare are treated with kid gloves. JMO
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Post by TheOtherMe on Feb 22, 2019 13:01:28 GMT -5
So the UE office decided that since I had signed up to work for the sub company the week of 2/9, I had returned to work and was no longer eligible for benefits despite the fact that I hadn't actually signed up to work any shifts yet. The last week of benefits was 2/9, I start at the new place 3/4, and each paycheck is from the prior 2 weeks, so I may not be getting paid for 3-4 more weeks. So I really need UE before my start date. The website directed me to call the UE office line if I had not yet returned to work, so I did. I can't get through to an actual agent and there's no option to hold or leave a message - it just says to call back on the next business day and hangs up. Apparently I'm supposed to call right at open? They open at 8am tomorrow, so I'll start dialing in at 7:55. This is such a broken system. This is how it worked when I was in Colorado. I ended up faxing them with my situation and telling them that I could not get through or leave a message. I did get a call back from the fax. Good luck
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 22, 2019 13:21:08 GMT -5
I’ve always wondered why they shit all over the people who actually work but those on welfare are treated with kid gloves The system is definitely broken but somehow I don't believe that people on welfare are treated with kid gloves. JMO They aren't I've never met a nastier group in my life than the DHHS office. I thought for sure I must be on Dateline because no way is this real. I'm so glad my situation was temporary. I can't imagine dealing with that long term.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 22, 2019 14:33:34 GMT -5
I have a phone interview on Monday, and I am seriously tempted to apply for a position in NC... cost of living is lower but not sure I want to do that all over again
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Post by swamp on Feb 22, 2019 14:41:48 GMT -5
The system is definitely broken but somehow I don't believe that people on welfare are treated with kid gloves. JMO They aren't I've never met a nastier group in my life than the DHHS office. I thought for sure I must be on Dateline because no way is this real. I'm so glad my situation was temporary. I can't imagine dealing with that long term. . I've had to deal with some of the welfare caseworkers for work related issues. I'm not even applying for benefits. A few of them were the nastiest miserable wenches I've dealt with. I can't imagine they are any nicer to the clientele.
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Post by tcu2003 on Feb 22, 2019 15:04:17 GMT -5
I have a phone interview on Monday, and I am seriously tempted to apply for a position in NC... cost of living is lower but not sure I want to do that all over again Go for it! I bet you would love NC!
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 22, 2019 15:31:17 GMT -5
Do it! If I go anywhere it will be Charlotte.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 22, 2019 16:09:36 GMT -5
Do it! If I go anywhere it will be Charlotte. The position is in Harrisburg which is a 30 minutes drive to Charlotte. I was looking at home prices in Harrisburg and I can get double the house (4-5 bedrooms) for half the price 😱😱😱. I texted DW about it...
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 22, 2019 16:10:20 GMT -5
Do it! If I go anywhere it will be Charlotte. The position is in Harrisburg which is a 30 minutes drive to Charlotte. I was looking at home prices in Harrisburg and I can get double the house (4-5 bedrooms) for half the price 😱😱😱. I texted DW about it... My DH looked at houses too. $300k gets you a mansion!
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Post by tcu2003 on Feb 22, 2019 16:29:23 GMT -5
Do it! If I go anywhere it will be Charlotte. The position is in Harrisburg which is a 30 minutes drive to Charlotte. I was looking at home prices in Harrisburg and I can get double the house (4-5 bedrooms) for half the price 😱😱😱. I texted DW about it... You could live between Harrisburg and Charlotte and have great job options for your wife in Charlotte....
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Post by countrygirl2 on Feb 22, 2019 16:40:27 GMT -5
What about schools for your daughter, how are they? Or would you have to go private?
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