Rukh O'Rorke
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Sept 1, 2017 8:23:51 GMT -5
ok - after thinking that through.......
My target is 20k more to stay put (either current job or another local)
30k to move, plus any COL differential.
Good plan? any suggestions?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 1, 2017 8:32:17 GMT -5
Have been doing a lot of research with good feedback and developing it for publication. I can’t believe how long it takes!!! So much reworking of it all….over and over and over again!
I know a PI who had a conniption because his grant got sent back for the 6th time because the current reviewer did not like that the PI didn't specify what brand of pipettes were used for the experiment.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Sept 1, 2017 9:52:57 GMT -5
wow! I just looked on monster and amazingly there are 4 good positions to apply for, and 2 are local. I've heard bad things about those 2 local employers - but I am thinking my weekend project will be to update my resume and throw my hat int he ring on these 4 positions. If I get a paid trip to California or Philadelphia for the out of state ones....why not? Only one has my expertise niche, but I am qualified at the other side of things, just prefer my niche . I'm going to do it!
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Post by saveinla on Sept 1, 2017 10:15:10 GMT -5
My son has been running experiments and doing research on a paper one of his professors is publishing and it's been a long year. They just got acceptance that their paper will be published and now they are going through formatting hell. It's a very nice opportunity for him as he gets to see how the academic world works, but it must be tough on the professors. Anyhow all of this to say Good Luck Rukh O'Rorke.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 1, 2017 13:54:56 GMT -5
I think I can say with a fair amount of certainty that I DID NOT get that histotechnologist job. It'll be a month since I interviewed next week and there is no way it's taking that much time to pick someone if they needed people as ugently as they claimed. The likely reason my application is still active is because nobody has gotten around to updating the job posting and sending out the robo rejections.
Pretty bummed because that would have been a great ticket out of academia and I would have been drawing a paycheck/benefits while doing the training.
The option I am currently going for comes with a $4500 price tag and I can't work for 12 weeks while in the program. So add in my lost income and the increased expense of DH having to carry our insurance instead of me. I got pretty overwhelmed last night and wondered what the hell is the point of doing any of this.
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Post by WholeLottaNothin on Sept 1, 2017 14:11:38 GMT -5
I think I can say with a fair amount of certainty that I DID NOT get that histotechnologist job. It'll be a month since I interviewed next week and there is no way it's taking that much time to pick someone if they needed people as ugently as they claimed. The likely reason my application is still active is because nobody has gotten around to updating the job posting and sending out the robo rejections. Pretty bummed because that would have been a great ticket out of academia and I would have been drawing a paycheck/benefits while doing the training. The option I am currently going for comes with a $4500 price tag and I can't work for 12 weeks while in the program. So add in my lost income and the increased expense of DH having to carry our insurance instead of me. I got pretty overwhelmed last night and wondered what the hell is the point of doing any of this. Have you called and checked? I get what you're saying, with it having been so long since you interviewed, but what is it going to hurt to follow up? If nothing else you show how interested you are and could help in them remembering for future applications, which I think you said they mentioned to you as well.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 1, 2017 14:14:39 GMT -5
I think I can say with a fair amount of certainty that I DID NOT get that histotechnologist job. It'll be a month since I interviewed next week and there is no way it's taking that much time to pick someone if they needed people as ugently as they claimed. The likely reason my application is still active is because nobody has gotten around to updating the job posting and sending out the robo rejections. Pretty bummed because that would have been a great ticket out of academia and I would have been drawing a paycheck/benefits while doing the training. The option I am currently going for comes with a $4500 price tag and I can't work for 12 weeks while in the program. So add in my lost income and the increased expense of DH having to carry our insurance instead of me. I got pretty overwhelmed last night and wondered what the hell is the point of doing any of this. Have you called and checked? I get what you're saying, with it having been so long since you interviewed, but what is it going to hurt to follow up? If nothing else you show how interested you are and could help in them remembering for future applications, which I think you said they mentioned to you as well. I have no called to check. I've had my current job and statistics on my plate. I've been watching for the other positions to pop up but they haven't yet.
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Post by taz157 on Sept 1, 2017 14:16:53 GMT -5
Have you called and checked? I get what you're saying, with it having been so long since you interviewed, but what is it going to hurt to follow up? If nothing else you show how interested you are and could help in them remembering for future applications, which I think you said they mentioned to you as well. I have no called to check. I've had my current job and statistics on my plate. I've been watching for the other positions to pop up but they haven't yet. I recommend calling to find out. The worst that happens is you didn't get the job.
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 1, 2017 19:01:10 GMT -5
I have no called to check. I've had my current job and statistics on my plate. I've been watching for the other positions to pop up but they haven't yet. I recommend calling to find out. The worst that happens is you didn't get the job. although I too have a feeling that you might not have gotten this job based on how you described that the interviewer kept mentioning that you needed to apply when those other two jobs would be posted. I may easily be wrong, but I read that to mean that they had already decided on whom they were going to hire, but this person really thought you would be the best person to fill the job. Keep that in mind if the answer is "sorry, but..." and don't give up.
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Post by seriousthistime on Sept 2, 2017 14:32:44 GMT -5
I think I can say with a fair amount of certainty that I DID NOT get that histotechnologist job. It'll be a month since I interviewed next week and there is no way it's taking that much time to pick someone if they needed people as ugently as they claimed. The likely reason my application is still active is because nobody has gotten around to updating the job posting and sending out the robo rejections. Pretty bummed because that would have been a great ticket out of academia and I would have been drawing a paycheck/benefits while doing the training. The option I am currently going for comes with a $4500 price tag and I can't work for 12 weeks while in the program. So add in my lost income and the increased expense of DH having to carry our insurance instead of me. I got pretty overwhelmed last night and wondered what the hell is the point of doing any of this. Don't lose heart. It took me 3.5 years to get the job I have now. I went through six months of scrutiny and testing, only to be told that I would not be getting the job. I threw out all my application information and documents and forgot about the job; did not give it another thought. TWO YEARS LATER I got a random email saying they were considering a new group of original applicants, including me, and I'd receive further information "soon." Much shenanigans ensued, including more testing and three interviews. I started the new job a year after that. It was worth it. I'll add that in that 3.5 years I was semi-actively looking for other jobs, but I was comfortable where I was. It was just -- like you, Drama -- I knew the job would not be there for me in a few years.
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 5, 2017 10:51:10 GMT -5
Woo hoo, mid!!
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 5, 2017 11:07:02 GMT -5
The recruiter emailed me back and said the company wants someone with more experience. Um, I have 9 years of experience....
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 5, 2017 11:12:54 GMT -5
I would email the recruiter back asking for specifics. What TYPE of experience do they want more of? If you have it take the time to list it and then reformat your resume to highlight it and and see if the recruiter will resubmit your application.
If it is something you appear to not have figure out how to get it or sort thru your skills and find examples that you can use the make the case that while you don't have X specifically you've done enough of Y that making the leap would not be difficult.
If he won't provide details then chalk it up to it's a robo answer to keep you from coming back and trying to sue because you weren't picked.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 5, 2017 11:17:13 GMT -5
My guess is that they want someone with significant planner experience. That's the only thing that makes sense.
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Post by cktc on Sept 5, 2017 13:18:59 GMT -5
My sister just sent me this link to a free online master's program in Financial Engineering. wqu.org/Might be of interest to some of you looking to take your careers in a different direction.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 6, 2017 15:27:13 GMT -5
well, I heard back from the recruiter I spoke with a few weeks back. this was for the company that's closer to my house than the dog park. not good news - "the hiring manager has decided not to move on this position during Q4." then why did you post for it in August?? I sent back a quick note to thank him for his time, and to request that when they do reopen their search, to keep me in mind. if I haven't already landed somewhere else, I'd like to be included for consideration. hopefully that's welcomed. we had spoken about why I was looking to make a move, and that I had basically just started looking.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Sept 6, 2017 16:00:39 GMT -5
Woo hop for mid!
I didn't get done updating my resume this weekend. A 2 hour research meeting on Saturday ended up about 5-6 so took the whole day with about 2 hours to finish reading stuff beforehand.
I've been trying to figure out how best to represent research in progressive on it. There is a lot of conflicting info on what is acceptable and so I didn't get finished. Currently sitting at ohare on a delayed flight won't be home til midnight Friday so will need to be back on it this weekend. Hopefully don't lose out on any of them.
I have 4 research projects that are "in progress"...two sent out for consideration for conferences - but I won't hear soon so I just put "manuscript submitted for presentation" hope that's the way. For publications, one I'm coauthor and my advisor is sending it out, so I'll check with him Monday for the update on where it's at before sending out to these jobs.
One struggle this weekend was in seeing how to be getting the one manuscript ready to send sent. Feeling like submitted is better that I'm just working on it.
There was a lot of info out there saying only 2 in progress at most, otherwise could be a red flag for padding...but it varies by discipline and also not sure how that translates to industry from academia. I'm most concerned with showing that I'm doing research and what topics I'm working on then demonstrated publishing cuz it'll take about 2 years to get everything finished and out there (hopefully published and not rejected🤓).
Any ideas? Resources on cv development by discipline industry vs academia? I couldn't find much, lol, well enough to make me feel insecure!!!
Once I finish my ppt for Thursday and Friday meetings, I'm going to work on my paper to see if I can get it ready to send by Monday too. I thought of another analysis I should do but don't have access to the software right now.
Going to be very busy till Monday. Oh , and then I'll get first round feedback on my dissertation results and discussion/conclusions ...so still busy....super hope I'm in the ball park!
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Post by chen35 on Sept 6, 2017 17:45:51 GMT -5
My sister just sent me this link to a free online master's program in Financial Engineering. wqu.org/Might be of interest to some of you looking to take your careers in a different direction. This looks kind of cool! I wonder how you can tell if a degree from there would be respected?
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Post by dee27 on Sept 6, 2017 17:49:50 GMT -5
Congratulations, Mid.
Rukh, Can your advisor give you any advice about the articles you want to publish? If not, is there someone in a similar field who already has a PhD and has published in a journal.
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Post by cktc on Sept 6, 2017 18:09:16 GMT -5
My sister just sent me this link to a free online master's program in Financial Engineering. wqu.org/Might be of interest to some of you looking to take your careers in a different direction. This looks kind of cool! I wonder how you can tell if a degree from there would be respected? I was wondering that too. Not much risk of being shut down for loan scamming at least. Might be worth checking with some local universities to see if they would accept transfer credits.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Sept 6, 2017 20:17:21 GMT -5
This looks kind of cool! I wonder how you can tell if a degree from there would be respected? I was wondering that too. Not much risk of being shut down for loan scamming at least. Might be worth checking with some local universities to see if they would accept transfer credits. It'd be great to see something like this take off with a variety of degrees.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 6, 2017 20:59:21 GMT -5
Sounds like it's a recruiting and training mechanism for an investment firm. Plus, a way to find and test new trading algorithms. Not saying it's not legit--just that appears to be why they're giving this away for free. I didn't look to see if it was accredited.
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Post by chen35 on Sept 7, 2017 10:30:01 GMT -5
Sounds like it's a recruiting and training mechanism for an investment firm. Plus, a way to find and test new trading algorithms. Not saying it's not legit--just that appears to be why they're giving this away for free. I didn't look to see if it was accredited. Looks like they are applying for accreditation in 2018.
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Post by emma1420 on Sept 7, 2017 13:30:42 GMT -5
So question.
I have a new employee. She's been with us about 3 and a half weeks. However, in that time, she's left early twice to go to doctor's appointments with her spouse, and then decided to leave 3 hours early (as there was an evening activity) yesterday. She asked for permission for the two doctor's appointments (she's not eligible to use vacation or sick time for 3 months).
Do you think I"m being overly sensitive if this bothers me? I just can't imagine taking off multiple times during the first few weeks of a new job.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 7, 2017 13:32:46 GMT -5
So question. I have a new employee. She's been with us about 3 and a half weeks. However, in that time, she's left early twice to go to doctor's appointments with her spouse, and then decided to leave 3 hours early (as there was an evening activity) yesterday. She asked for permission for the two doctor's appointments (she's not eligible to use vacation or sick time for 3 months). Do you think I"m being overly sensitive if this bothers me? I just can't imagine taking off multiple times during the first few weeks of a new job. can you elaborate on the bolded?
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 7, 2017 13:39:06 GMT -5
So question. I have a new employee. She's been with us about 3 and a half weeks. However, in that time, she's left early twice to go to doctor's appointments with her spouse, and then decided to leave 3 hours early (as there was an evening activity) yesterday. She asked for permission for the two doctor's appointments (she's not eligible to use vacation or sick time for 3 months). Do you think I"m being overly sensitive if this bothers me? I just can't imagine taking off multiple times during the first few weeks of a new job. No. The best thing you can do is let an employee you are unsure of go during their trial period.
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Post by emma1420 on Sept 7, 2017 13:44:09 GMT -5
So question. I have a new employee. She's been with us about 3 and a half weeks. However, in that time, she's left early twice to go to doctor's appointments with her spouse, and then decided to leave 3 hours early (as there was an evening activity) yesterday. She asked for permission for the two doctor's appointments (she's not eligible to use vacation or sick time for 3 months). Do you think I"m being overly sensitive if this bothers me? I just can't imagine taking off multiple times during the first few weeks of a new job. can you elaborate on the bolded? Yes, it was a three hour online event. That is why she left three hours early because she would be working three hours in the evening. This is also a salaried position, so the expectation is that these evening sessions are 'extra' not instead of. Now, granted most of us take off an hour early or come in a bit late if we need to, and over the course of the year, between running late for various reasons it all evens out in the end. I did talk to her about the way that things work, but she didn't really understand why she just could take off 3 hours early, and told me that she had things she needed to do at home, that is why she had to leave early. This evening work, which is perhaps 10 evenings over the course of year, is just part of the job (it's just 4 of these evenings all fall in a two week span).
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 7, 2017 13:52:49 GMT -5
can you elaborate on the bolded? Yes, it was a three hour online event. That is why she left three hours early because she would be working three hours in the evening. This is also a salaried position, so the expectation is that these evening sessions are 'extra' not instead of. Now, granted most of us take off an hour early or come in a bit late if we need to, and over the course of the year, between running late for various reasons it all evens out in the end. I did talk to her about the way that things work, but she didn't really understand why she just could take off 3 hours early, and told me that she had things she needed to do at home, that is why she had to leave early. This evening work, which is perhaps 10 evenings over the course of year, is just part of the job (it's just 4 of these evenings all fall in a two week span). that's tough. If this employee is doing great in every other capacity, I'd make sure to remind her that her workday needs to be complete in addition to the online events, and if there is a pressing need for her to flex an hour here and there during those event weeks, please clear it with you first. I don't like to immediately write off people for not completely grasping how their company works or for not volunteering to work a ton of extra hours right off the bat. I'm willing to cut good workers some slack.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 7, 2017 13:56:37 GMT -5
Congratulations, Mid. Rukh, Can your advisor give you any advice about the articles you want to publish? If not, is there someone in a similar field who already has a PhD and has published in a journal. I've submitted about 50 papers for publication. I've used: Submitted to XXX (journal) for publication. Submitted and under review at XXX Accepted for publication at XXX and under revision Accepted for publication at XXX (when article has been accepted, yet not yet published) In progress (usually this is when the research is complete and the journal article is being written). If the research is not complete, then I didn't add it to a CV. However, I have submitted abstracts on incomplete research for research meetings, and I usually had these publications under a separate section. Only about 60% or so of abstracts ever make it to journal publication. Sometimes it is a protocol paper, where it has improved on a protocol. Other times, it was preliminary research done for a grant that was never funded to research further. Yet other times, there was not enough data for a full journal article, so the info was included in another associated paper.
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Post by steph08 on Sept 7, 2017 13:57:46 GMT -5
Hmmm, that's tough.
For the appointments - were they her appointments or appointments for her spouse? Is her spouse ill? Does her spouse have a hard time hearing/understanding doctors so she needs to go along? I'd say it's weird to take off time to go to a spouse's appointment. If they were the employee's appointments, I'd say that it sucks to reschedule and sometimes it pushes appointments way far out and I would have kept those even if I started a new job.
For the evening event - maybe I'm lazy, but I'd feel the same way as the employee. If I know I have to do 3 hours of work that evening, I'd take that 3 hours off earlier in the day (as long as I didn't have anything that really needed to get done). But, on the other hand, I probably wouldn't do that within the first month of work...
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