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Post by Value Buy on Dec 2, 2015 19:30:24 GMT -5
Here all afternoon there was speculation they had escaped un-noticed, and yet the police caught up with them within a few miles of the atrocity. Were they hiding in near by location and flushed out?
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Dec 2, 2015 19:34:05 GMT -5
The news folks (i.e., not the police) theorize that the police response was so swift that the suspects laid low nearby so as not to attract attention. When they finally made a run for it, they were caught.
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Post by jkapp on Dec 2, 2015 19:35:18 GMT -5
You could go to your Parliament building and get shot. How soon you forget. Yes, a mass shooting happens every few days here. Just like in the USA.
Not.
No, you don't have very many mass shootings...you do, however, have several hundred "hunting accidents" each year
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 2, 2015 19:37:12 GMT -5
Currently watching CNN Their banner says one dead one may be on the loose.
Does anyone know whether it was two or three perps? I thought earlier reports said one in custody.......
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Post by jkapp on Dec 2, 2015 19:36:59 GMT -5
I'm currently watching this live on NBC ~ authorities have confirmed at leat 3 fatalities and 20+ so far confirmed injured. At this time they don't know if it is 1 shooter or more. Some sources are saying at least 3 suspects. This is a campus for disabled & mentally challenged adults, which makes what's happening even more sickening.
WTF is happening to society?? Are people becoming so desensitized ? It all seems so senseless… it is not all of society, this sort of mass shooting seems to be prevalent in the USA. why? Because they will be guaranteed at least a week's worth of fame/infamy from the media?
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 19:37:55 GMT -5
Here all afternoon there was speculation they had escaped un-noticed, and yet the police caught up with them within a few miles of the atrocity. Were they hiding in near by location and flushed out? The SUV was involved in an accident with a truck carrying water for the people at the site of the original shootings. Not sure if the accident was a result of police pursuit of the SUV, but it may have been. It was at about that time the gunfire started between police and the occupants of the SUV.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 19:39:45 GMT -5
Currently watching CNN Their banner says one dead one may be on the loose. Does anyone know whether it was two or three perps? I thought earlier reports said one in custody....... None are in custody. Two are down and presumed dead (no movement in quite awhile). One is being pursued. There were reports from local residents that someone was seen running through the neighborhood, jumping fences. That's the guy they're looking for now.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 19:40:27 GMT -5
ABC has live coverage going on. It's available on Yahoo News, if you can get that.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 2, 2015 19:41:41 GMT -5
Video footage made it look like all the windows shot out, tires were flat, and I thought maybe a tail light was blinking. The police wasted no lead on them
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 2, 2015 19:43:15 GMT -5
ABC has live coverage going on. It's available on Yahoo News, if you can get that. Thanks, but will go to Fox news to get the real story! Thought I would give CNN a chance but they are not to with it. Either that, or they are correct.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 20:04:41 GMT -5
Reporters at the scene are saying one of the deceased suspects may be a woman. They're basing that on clothing and observed body type. No confirmation. SB Chief of Police was supposed to give a press conference at 4:45 Pacific time but that, apparently, has been postponed.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 20:11:42 GMT -5
Video footage made it look like all the windows shot out, tires were flat, and I thought maybe a tail light was blinking. The police wasted no lead on them Did I see the shot up vehicle's windshield wipers running?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2015 20:21:21 GMT -5
Video footage made it look like all the windows shot out, tires were flat, and I thought maybe a tail light was blinking. The police wasted no lead on them Did I see the shot up vehicle's windshield wipers running? yes, you did. not sure why. it rained a little bit here today (up North). so, this is all very unclear on the assailant side, except that one shooter is dead.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 20:23:16 GMT -5
Video footage made it look like all the windows shot out, tires were flat, and I thought maybe a tail light was blinking. The police wasted no lead on them Did I see the shot up vehicle's windshield wipers running? All windows were shot out except the windshield. It was still relatively intact. Didn't notice the wipers, though. The only Level 1 trauma center in the area has stated they received 5 patients from today's events. Two are now in critical but stable condition, two are in fair condition, and one is still being assessed. These would have been the worst of those from the shooting. All were adults.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 20:25:20 GMT -5
Did I see the shot up vehicle's windshield wipers running? yes, you did. not sure why. it rained a little bit here today (up North). so, this is all very unclear on the assailant side, except that one shooter is dead. Two shooters are dead. One of them is, purportedly, a woman according to press who based that assumption on clothing and body type after zooming in on the body that was pulled from the SUV.
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Dec 2, 2015 20:26:34 GMT -5
That is weird, Fox News is bringing up the name Farud Siyid(sp) being broadcast over the scanner and I heard that name come over it earlier, but briefly and then they moved on. I thought I missheard because I thought they said a hispanic name after that I see my worst fear of us all being "in play" seemes to be happening. I've worried for a while that if we were going to be hit again it would be in places you wouldn't expect to effectively spread fear.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 20:35:14 GMT -5
Did I see the shot up vehicle's windshield wipers running? yes, you did. not sure why. it rained a little bit here today (up North). so, this is all very unclear on the assailant side, except that one shooter is dead. Thanks. I thought it odd the vehicle's emergency flashers were on too.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 20:38:55 GMT -5
The police chief just verified that one of the dead suspects is, indeed, a woman. Both she and the deceased male were armed with assault rifles.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 20:39:10 GMT -5
When people do things like this, I know that sometimes killing them is the only way to stop.them and prevent them from causing more harm to citizens and our officers, but the vengeful part of me doesn't really want them.to die quickly. The vengeful side of me wants them to feel the same anguish and terror their surviving victims did and suffer greatly for the victims that died.....and I don't mean by going to prison.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2015 20:40:05 GMT -5
The police chief just verified that one of the dead suspects is, indeed, a woman. Both she and the deceased male were armed with assault rifles. thanks, mmhmm. still at work, unfortunately. late shipment today.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 20:41:54 GMT -5
Understandable, Pink Cashmere.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 20:46:55 GMT -5
The police chief has verified there is someone in custody who was seen running away from the SUV where the other two suspects were killed. It isn't known at this time if the person being held was actually involved. The manhunt has been ended at this time. Nobody was found in the area being searched.
Apparently, the license plate of the SUV must have been reported because the police had sent surveillance to a house in Redlands. The SUV left the house with police in pursuit. That's how the whole shoot-out with the SUV started, per the police chief.
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Post by Opti on Dec 2, 2015 20:49:35 GMT -5
It appears the police chief is playing it close to the vest. He will not answer any questions on appearance of the deceased subjects except their gender.
Seems it will be awhile.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 20:59:07 GMT -5
Latest report says a house, or apartment building, is surrounded at this time. No further substantial information.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 21:01:49 GMT -5
Possibility the third person sought may be in the apartment/townhouse.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 21:06:17 GMT -5
Possibility the third person sought may be in the apartment/townhouse. It was just reported a robot has been seen going in and out of the surrounded house in Redlands. This is reported to be the house from which the SUV left before it was involved in the shoot-out with police that resulted in the deaths of the two suspects.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 21:11:48 GMT -5
Drop the person off to get something inside? Police arrived and the couple took off leaving the third person behind?
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Post by Shooby on Dec 2, 2015 21:14:34 GMT -5
This was a very well planned organized attack.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 2, 2015 21:19:48 GMT -5
Drop the person off to get something inside? Police arrived and the couple took off leaving the third person behind? Hard to know at this time. Information is being released in a sorta spotty manner since the investigation is currently on-going and they don't want to compromise anything. The FBI has stated it's too early to tell if this was an act of terrorism or something else. There was, reportedly (by people who were at the holiday banquet that was the focus of the attack), an argument that took place at the banquet gathering just before these three people barged in and started shooting. Don't know if those two events were connected, or not. Info is, as I said, still pretty spotty.
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