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Post by Ombud on Nov 13, 2015 20:44:06 GMT -5
Why are they targeting Paris? 1. 20+ world leaders showing up there in a few days 2. A lot of Islamic within their borders, per CNBC up to 700 French Citizens recently back from mid east 3. German - French sports match -- terrorize 2 countries at once
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 20:46:35 GMT -5
All the news feeds are very confused and I am crying......
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Nov 13, 2015 20:48:16 GMT -5
Good, debt!!! Hugs for you; I cannot fathom how scary that must be. I stopped here just to see if you had updated. Back to my blissfully uneventful evening now. Off to pick up DD#2 from dance class. I hope to talk to you later.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Nov 13, 2015 20:48:57 GMT -5
CNN says at least 153 dead.
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Post by obelisk on Nov 13, 2015 20:49:35 GMT -5
I am glad that Debt and her family is safe.
I grieve for the victims, their family and loved ones.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 20:59:23 GMT -5
All we can do, dear friends, is hold tight to one another and embrace love while we grieve. I too am glad that Debt and her family are safe
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 13, 2015 21:05:55 GMT -5
Sometimes I really want to live in a bubble. No TV, no radio, no internet or newspapers, just an ipod maybe. Choose to be more content and less informed. Days like today. I kinda was in one until I opted to check fb. I'm in the wis. Della this weekend. Debt haven is ok. Thank God for that.
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Post by debthaven on Nov 13, 2015 21:09:24 GMT -5
CNN says at least 153 dead.
They are still saying "provisional death toll" is 120 but they've been saying that for at least an hour. Of course it's going to be higher than that, so CNN may well be right.
The French police (special unit) stormed the Bataclan and it could not have gone great. So I'm sure there is going to be some reluctance to give the real numbers.
I'm not planning to go to bed anytime soon but I may well fall asleep on the couch ...
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 13, 2015 21:14:03 GMT -5
i don't believe a word of anything this early. even the body counts are off. Of course body counts go up!! It's an active terrorist attack. djAdvocate how fast do you think they can tally up the dead when they still had living hostages? i don't believe ANY ASPECT of the reporting, Ombud. not this soon.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 13, 2015 21:15:56 GMT -5
Why are they targeting Paris? Paris and London have been a hotbed of Islamic activity for decades. the open borders, the floods of refugees, and the participation of France and England in the hostilities against Arabs dating back to the 50's are the main reasons.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Nov 13, 2015 21:16:53 GMT -5
CNN says at least 153 dead.They are still saying "provisional death toll" is 120 but they've been saying that for at least an hour. Of course it's going to be higher than that, so CNN may well be right. The French police (special unit) stormed the Bataclan and it could not have gone great. So I'm sure there is going to be some reluctance to give the real numbers. I'm not planning to go to bed anytime soon but I may well fall asleep on the couch ... I just heard on the news that the shooters were picking off the audience, so trying to talk them out with everyone surviving wasn't going to happen. The storming was more damage control.
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 13, 2015 21:21:48 GMT -5
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 13, 2015 21:23:46 GMT -5
debthaven, I'm just glad that you and your family are okay. My thoughts are with you and yours. Paris my heart is with you.
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Post by debthaven on Nov 13, 2015 21:24:47 GMT -5
Exactly, Mich.
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 13, 2015 21:26:23 GMT -5
I read and heard that as well Mich, it just breaks my heart.
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Post by debthaven on Nov 13, 2015 21:42:55 GMT -5
Sorry guys it's 3.41 am and I need to go to bed.
Thank you for thinking and worrying about me and mine. My heart bleeds for the victims and their families. What a messed up world where we have to worry about terrorist attacks when our kids or our friends go to a concert or out to dinner or out for a drink or just walk down the street.
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Post by sesfw on Nov 13, 2015 21:58:05 GMT -5
debt ...... glad you and family are ok ......... my heart and tears go out to Paris, the world is grieving with you
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 13, 2015 22:04:59 GMT -5
debt, I know you're in bed now, hope you answer when you can. I've been seeing reports of 158 killed at the stadium, but have recently seen graphics showing multiple places of 150+ casualties. can you offer more local insight when you are awake? ugh... sent from my electronic distraction
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 13, 2015 22:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by Shooby on Nov 13, 2015 23:22:32 GMT -5
Of course body counts go up!! It's an active terrorist attack. djAdvocate how fast do you think they can tally up the dead when they still had living hostages? i don't believe ANY ASPECT of the reporting, Ombud. not this soon. Do you believe it now?
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Nov 13, 2015 23:27:50 GMT -5
I too am here to check on Debt and I'm so happy to see she, along with her family, are safe. You all are in my thoughts and prayers and I wish that peace for Paris comes soon.
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Post by jambo101 on Nov 14, 2015 5:04:39 GMT -5
Obviously these Islamic terrorists were out to kill as many people as possible,what i dont get is the reason for this level of evil,whats to be gained by killing a whole bunch of innocent people and getting yourselves killed in the process. I'd love to hear from one of these extremists on what motivates them, to put it more simply =Why?
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Post by truthbound on Nov 14, 2015 5:37:21 GMT -5
All the news feeds are very confused and I am crying...... You should stop listening to news feeds. They don't care about facts. And why has no one in this thread or anywhere pointed out how Obama compared the attack to gun control here?
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Post by Spellbound454 on Nov 14, 2015 7:45:56 GMT -5
They have a whole different take on things. They think they are protecting a pure form of Islam from the evil west.
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Post by debthaven on Nov 14, 2015 8:31:31 GMT -5
Chive here they are saying 128 dead, 200 injured, 80 of whom are very critical.
There were very few deaths at the stadium (maybe only the suicide bombers) ... about 80 in the Bataclan and the rest killed in the bars / restaurants.
DS1 has come home for the weekend, DS2 will be here soon (both are living in Paris now, DS2 lives there permanently and DS1 just for a few months).
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 14, 2015 9:34:59 GMT -5
After events like this the first thing I need to do is tend to my own soul.
All I want to do right now is say very nasty things about all of these people, innocent or guilty, and advocate doing unspeakable things to keep them and their dirty refugees at bay.
We are all Parisians.
I was trying to find the words to say the exact same thing. Thank you, Dem, for being so much more eloquent and thoughtful than I can be at this time.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 14, 2015 9:35:29 GMT -5
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 14, 2015 10:16:16 GMT -5
Nope. Two thirds of it, maybe. One religion cannot be used in that description.
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Post by Bonny on Nov 14, 2015 11:16:08 GMT -5
These guys are not about religion or Islam. They are just hiding behind the more radical tenets (remember the Bible has some pretty radical verses too). This is about revenge and envy.
They are clearly not thinking about what is going to happen to their families and the disservice they are doing to other Muslims.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Nov 14, 2015 11:38:06 GMT -5
Nope. Two thirds of it, maybe. One religion cannot be used in that description. Exactly it. They can keep trying to tell us the square block fits in the round hole, but it's just a matter of time before the chickens come home to roost. Stay .
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