HUGE- YUGE! Victory: Matt Bevins Wins In Kentucky

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Conservative, anti-establishment Matt Bevins will be the next Governor of Kentucky.  Make no mistake about it, this is a big TEA Party / Conservative / Anti-establishment victory.  Bevins unsuccessfully challenged Mitch McConnell for US Senate. After such an unsuccessful challenge to a powerful Senate majority leader-- to go on to become governor of the same state is a big deal.

therightscoop.com/holy-crap-matt-bevin-is-the-new-governor-of-kentucky/

POLITICO – Republican Matt Bevin has won the Kentucky governor’s race, according to The Associated Press, defeating Democrat Jack Conway.

Bevin, a self-funding businessman who unsuccessfully challenged Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in a primary last year, overcame a funding disadvantage and Kentucky’s Democratic lean in state races to become only the second Republican to win a gubernatorial election since the early 1970s.

[djAdvocate]

this race was very tight.  congratulations to mr. bevins.

[Value Buy]

You do realize Conway lost?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 4, 2015 8:44:56 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

You do realize Conway lost?

I'll preface what I'm about to say by saying that I'm done accepting our friend dj's (whom I could not tag because the feature isn't working at the moment) assertion that he's not a leftist.  The left NEVER loses.  This is what is so frustrating to those of us who are TEA Party conservatives when the GOP compromises and caves on matters of principle. The left NEVER accepts a loss.  When they win they win, and when they lose they win because it was close.  And the only reason it was close is that Bevins won big.

What politicians like Matt Bevins understand is that unless we get conservative candidates that can motivate and energize the conservative base, we're going to lose.  In an age of near universal (e.g. it's not just a Cook County phenomenon) systemic voter fraud, the only way to make sure they don't steal elections is to make sure it's never close.

[Tennesseer]

Lucky DJ.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I really should not be doubted when I say conservatism is ascendant.

Meet the black female T.E.A. Party activist that just became Kentucky's Lt. Governor:
www.nationalreview.com/corner/426555/kentuckys-new-gop-lt-gov-black-tea-party-activist-john-fund

[zibazinski]

   Glad to see her.

[zibazinski]

I'm a sexist pig and I love seeing a woman in politics, most times. I can do without Clinton and Pelosi. 

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2015 10:31:05 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

the only reason it was close is that Bevins won big.

not according to RCP:

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2015/governor/ky/kentucky_governor_comer_vs_conway-5187.html

Bevins ended up winning by 9%, and that is just great- but this race WAS close, until recently.

i don't know enough about Mr. Bevins to comment on him.  and the idea that i would WANT this to be closer than it was is your own fiction, bro.  it is make believe.

please stop making shit up about me.  TYIA.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2015 11:03:52 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I really should not be doubted when I say conservatism is ascendant.

yes, you should:


liberals are ascendant, not conservatives, Paul.

[zibazinski]

If conservatives would go back to business and stay out of personal, they'd do a lot better. I can't vote for someone who wants to turn back the clock to the fifties as far as women are concerned. 

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2015 11:32:50 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

If conservatives would go back to business and stay out of personal, they'd do a lot better. I can't vote for someone who wants to turn back the clock to the fifties as far as women are concerned. 

conservatives are more tightey whitey than ever, zib.  just check out all the mad trap law crap going on.

[zibazinski]

   Sigh   Who the hell am I going to vote for? Damn.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2015 11:39:04 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

   Sigh   Who the hell am I going to vote for? Damn.

do you have an objection to voting 3rd party?

[zibazinski]

Throwing my vote away? Well, why not? I sure as hell can't vote for Clinton and live with myself.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2015 11:47:44 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Throwing my vote away? Well, why not? I sure as hell can't vote for Clinton and live with myself.

i kinda felt like i threw my vote away the last time i voted for a "winner".  know what i mean?

[zibazinski]

Sadly, I do.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 4, 2015 11:27:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 4, 2015 10:31:05 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

the only reason it was close is that Bevins won big.

not according to RCP:

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2015/governor/ky/kentucky_governor_comer_vs_conway-5187.html

Bevins ended up winning by 9%, and that is just great- but this race WAS close, until recently.

i don't know enough about Mr. Bevins to comment on him.  and the idea that i would WANT this to be closer than it was is your own fiction, bro.  it is make believe.

please stop making shit up about me.  TYIA.

How many times does a race won by a rock-ribbed conservative by near double digits have to be portrayed in the media and polling leading up to the election before intelligent, politically astute, attentive people like yourself realize that it was all propaganda to try to affect the outcome rather than to find out how likely voters were actually going to vote?

I don't think there was a last minute (depending on the polling) 5% to 8% shift.  I think Bevins was always going to win, but the McConnell Republicans and their Democrat allies wanted to try to derail a TEA Party victory.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 4, 2015 11:47:44 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Throwing my vote away? Well, why not? I sure as hell can't vote for Clinton and live with myself.

So, then you don't really just vote with your lady parts. That's not a bad thing.

That's how I feel about it.  If they're successful in nominating Bush, I'll stay home.  This, in spite of the fact that I'm a middle aged white male. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 4, 2015 11:30:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 4, 2015 11:03:52 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I really should not be doubted when I say conservatism is ascendant.

yes, you should:


liberals are ascendant, not conservatives, Paul.

Yeah- you've posted this before.  Election results don't seem to be in any way affected by this supposed self-identification.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 4, 2015 11:39:04 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

   Sigh   Who the hell am I going to vote for? Damn.

I'm seriously considering voting Democrat if the GOP nominates someone like Jeb.

If we're going to destroy the country then let's rip the damn band aid off and do it already-- and let the blame fall on the Democrats and leftists.

[billisonboard]

Nov 4, 2015 12:04:02 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 4, 2015 11:30:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

yes, you should:


liberals are ascendant, not conservatives, Paul.

Yeah- you've posted this before.  Election results don't seem to be in any way affected by this supposed self-identification.

Turnout is the key to understanding.

[Tennesseer]

HUGE-IUGE-JUGE-KUGE-LUGE-MUGE...YUGE?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

No, modeling the turnout is key to understanding. 

fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-to-make-of-kentuckys-polling-failure/

[dondub]

If we are going to suffer from extremist paranoia we might as well claim that Democrats and leftists are destroying the country.

[Willing Sniper]

My but the electorate are stupid

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2015 12:00:39 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 4, 2015 11:27:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

not according to RCP:

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2015/governor/ky/kentucky_governor_comer_vs_conway-5187.html

Bevins ended up winning by 9%, and that is just great- but this race WAS close, until recently.

i don't know enough about Mr. Bevins to comment on him.  and the idea that i would WANT this to be closer than it was is your own fiction, bro.  it is make believe.

please stop making shit up about me.  TYIA.

How many times does a race won by a rock-ribbed conservative by near double digits have to be portrayed in the media and polling leading up to the election before intelligent, politically astute, attentive people like yourself realize that it was all propaganda to try to affect the outcome rather than to find out how likely voters were actually going to vote?

I don't think there was a last minute (depending on the polling) 5% to 8% shift.  I think Bevins was always going to win, but the McConnell Republicans and their Democrat allies wanted to try to derail a TEA Party victory.

dude.  i ONLY had the RCP site to go off on this, ok?  RCP had it as a 1.7% margin.  that, to me, is CLOSE.  if it was not close, then FINE.

if you are going to get into this argument about the polling being slanted again, i will have to send you back to the Mittmentum thread.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2015 12:04:02 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 4, 2015 11:30:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

yes, you should:


liberals are ascendant, not conservatives, Paul.

Yeah- you've posted this before.  Election results don't seem to be in any way affected by this supposed self-identification.

actually, it fits perfectly with elections.  if you don't understand why, i can explain it to you. 

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2015 12:05:35 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 4, 2015 11:39:04 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

   Sigh   Who the hell am I going to vote for? Damn.

I'm seriously considering voting Democrat if the GOP nominates someone like Jeb.

If we're going to destroy the country then let's rip the damn band aid off and do it already-- and let the blame fall on the Democrats and leftists.

don't be stupid.  vote for someone you actually believe in, for once.

[billisonboard]

Nov 4, 2015 12:39:21 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

No, modeling the turnout is key to understanding. 

fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-to-make-of-kentuckys-polling-failure/

Yes Paul, modeling the turnout is key to understanding polling.

Here is the chain I quoted - "conservatism is ascendant" - 'Graph' - "Election results".

Actual turnout is the key to understanding that.