Obama is renaming Mt McKinley

[ArchietheDragon]

President Obama is renaming Mt McKinley in Alaska.      

Who wants to bet it is getting renamed Mt. Global Warming. 

www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/31/obama-to-rename-mt-mckinley-to-denali-during-alaska-trip-that-focuses-on/

[djAdvocate]

most Alaskans support this, so i am good with it.  they should be able to name their own mountains.

[Virgil Showlion]

I read about it this morning. Take that, Ohio.

I'm counting it as a win that it isn't being renamed "Mt. Caitlyn", and moving on.

[mmhmm]

Since the mountain is known as Mt. Denali to the locals, and has been since before the first name-change (there has been more than one), I don't see any problem with acknowledging that. It sure doesn't stand out as one of the really important decisions of all time - at least, not to me. 

[billisonboard]

I think that the Ohio delegation should work to change the name of an Ohio mountain to McKinley.  I would recommend they change Mt. Miserable to Mt McKinley.  One reason to support this change is that the mountain in Ohio is more representative of the accomplishments of President McKinley.   It is 1,486 ft tall, the #51698 tallest in the United States . The mountain in Alaska is 20,322 ft tall, the tallest in the United States.

[Value Buy]

As long as it wasn't Mt Reagan, I am ok with the old name
The Indian name sounds cool anyway.

[Value Buy]

Aug 31, 2015 17:43:30 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

As long as it wasn't Mt Reagan, I am ok with the old name
The Indian name sounds cool anyway.

Speaking of old Indian names, I wonder how many children or for that matter, adults, today realize how many towns, rivers, etc carry the name originally of the old Indian name for the same thing.
I am amazed how many small towns, rivers , even valleys, etc carry the Indian name or a connotation of it, to this day. I bet many people do not even think anything about it.
As a child, I never made the connection. It was just named whatever it was called.

[Tennesseer]

Aug 31, 2015 17:51:23 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Aug 31, 2015 17:43:30 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

As long as it wasn't Mt Reagan, I am ok with the old name
The Indian name sounds cool anyway.

Speaking of old Indian names, I wonder how many children or for that matter, adults, today realize how many towns, rivers, etc carry the name originally of the old Indian name for the same thing.
I am amazed how many small towns, rivers , even valleys, etc carry the Indian name or a connotation of it, to this day. I bet many people do not even think anything about it.
As a child, I never made the connection. It was just named whatever it was called.

I cannot speak for the rest of the country, but a number of the towns, lakes and beaches of New England kept the Indian names for the area.

[Artemis Windsong]

Denali is the original name.  From my seat, Denali was used in reference to the mountain more than Mt. McKinley.

Healing a sore spot with first peoples is not wasted time.

I didn't agree with Obama apologizing to Japan since they started the war.  I can see the healing from doing that.

[Politically_Incorrect12]

Aug 31, 2015 19:47:12 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

Denali is the original name.  From my seat, Denali was used in reference to the mountain more than Mt. McKinley.

Healing a sore spot with first peoples is not wasted time.

I didn't agree with Obama apologizing to Japan since they started the war.  I can see the healing from doing that.

I must have missed the one where he apologized to Japan for something, or was that a while back when he was on his world apology tour?

[fishy999]

Obama is not renaming anything- it was always Denali.  Ohio folks are angry- so considering state's rights Ohio should be able to rename a peak in Alaska

[weltschmerz]

Aug 31, 2015 17:51:23 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Aug 31, 2015 17:43:30 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

As long as it wasn't Mt Reagan, I am ok with the old name
The Indian name sounds cool anyway.

Speaking of old Indian names, I wonder how many children or for that matter, adults, today realize how many towns, rivers, etc carry the name originally of the old Indian name for the same thing.
I am amazed how many small towns, rivers , even valleys, etc carry the Indian name or a connotation of it, to this day. I bet many people do not even think anything about it.
As a child, I never made the connection. It was just named whatever it was called.

Well, up here....most of us. You can't swing a cat in Canada without hitting a First Peoples' place name.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_Canada_of_aboriginal_origin#Quebec

[happyhoix]

Aug 31, 2015 22:17:54 GMT -5 fishy999 said:

Obama is not renaming anything- it was always Denali.  Ohio folks are angry- so considering state's rights Ohio should be able to rename a peak in Alaska

Well, most of Ohio is table flat corn fields, so I guess they would be mad that the giant mountain they had managed to name for one of their own got changed back to the original name.

They should name the Millennium Force roller coaster at Cedar Point "McKinley Madness." That's pretty damn tall.

[garion2003]

Aug 31, 2015 11:02:08 GMT -5 @sroo4 said:

I'm just glad that all of the country's other problems must have been solved already so he could tackle pressing issues such as this one 

"Changing the name has often been a bipartisan legislative priority among Alaska’s congressional delegation to rename the mountain. Lisa Murkowski (R), the state’s senior senator and chairwoman of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, which is responsible for the matter, has sponsored legislation in every session of Congress to do so since taking her seat."

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/obama-renames-nation%e2%80%99s-highest-mountain/ar-AAdLF9D?ocid=ansmsnnews11

It must be pressing to Alaskans

[thyme4change]

Aug 31, 2015 17:51:23 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Aug 31, 2015 17:43:30 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

As long as it wasn't Mt Reagan, I am ok with the old name
The Indian name sounds cool anyway.

Speaking of old Indian names, I wonder how many children or for that matter, adults, today realize how many towns, rivers, etc carry the name originally of the old Indian name for the same thing.
I am amazed how many small towns, rivers , even valleys, etc carry the Indian name or a connotation of it, to this day. I bet many people do not even think anything about it.
As a child, I never made the connection. It was just named whatever it was called.

They made us rename our mountain "Squaw Peak" because it is offensive in Indian culture.  We all still call it Squaw Peak.  

Speaking of children, and adults for that matter, how many of them could name one significant thing about McKinley.  I bet 80% of Americans wouldn't even know he was assassinated.  

[Shooby]

I am glad to see he is up there to go on a Reality Show. Seems very appropriate for his administration.

[Value Buy]

Sept 1, 2015 7:34:10 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Aug 31, 2015 22:17:54 GMT -5 fishy999 said:

Obama is not renaming anything- it was always Denali.  Ohio folks are angry- so considering state's rights Ohio should be able to rename a peak in Alaska

Well, most of Ohio is table flat corn fields, so I guess they would be mad that the giant mountain they had managed to name for one of their own got changed back to the original name.

They should name the Millennium Force roller coaster at Cedar Point "McKinley Madness." That's pretty damn tall.

I am sure somewhere in Ohio, they have to have a gigantic garbage landfill somewhere with a little height. That would be appropiate for any politician's legacy.
Unless they trucked all their garbage to Kentucky or Indiana........

[Tennesseer]

Sept 1, 2015 7:48:34 GMT -5 Shooby said:

I am glad to see he is up there to go on a Reality Show. Seems very appropriate for his administration.

Says the poster who must watch many reality TV show because she knows haggard, old women are the first to be voted off the island.

[The Captain]

Aug 31, 2015 19:13:33 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Aug 31, 2015 17:51:23 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Speaking of old Indian names, I wonder how many children or for that matter, adults, today realize how many towns, rivers, etc carry the name originally of the old Indian name for the same thing.
I am amazed how many small towns, rivers , even valleys, etc carry the Indian name or a connotation of it, to this day. I bet many people do not even think anything about it.
As a child, I never made the connection. It was just named whatever it was called.

I cannot speak for the rest of the country, but a number of the towns, lakes and beaches of New England kept the Indian names for the area.

Illinois was the name of the tribe living in the area when the French explorers made it here.  Chicago is based off an Indian word for skunk.

Many of the area routes (highway routes) were old Indian trails the settlers continued to use.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 1, 2015 8:29:24 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Aug 31, 2015 19:13:33 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I cannot speak for the rest of the country, but a number of the towns, lakes and beaches of New England kept the Indian names for the area.

Illinois was the name of the tribe living in the area when the French explorers made it here.  Chicago is based off an Indian word for skunk.

Many of the area routes (highway routes) were old Indian trails the settlers continued to use.

Several of the main streets and avenues in Manhattan were once Indian paths before the arrival of the Europeans to the island.

[OldCoyote]

This is so confusing.

Amid concerns that the U.S. has ceded influence to Russia in strategic Arctic waters, the White House announced Tuesday that it would ask Congress to speed up construction of new icebreakers. The U.S. currently has two working icebreakers, compared to Russia's 40.  

Yes, If all the ice going to be gone, Why do we need more Ice Breakers?


www.aol.com/article/2015/09/01/obama-paints-doomsday-scene-of-global-warming-in-alaska/21229914/?icid=maing-grid7%7Caol20-g%7Cdl29%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D433815837

[Value Buy]

Sept 1, 2015 8:29:24 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Aug 31, 2015 19:13:33 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I cannot speak for the rest of the country, but a number of the towns, lakes and beaches of New England kept the Indian names for the area.

Illinois was the name of the tribe living in the area when the French explorers made it here.  Chicago is based off an Indian word for skunk.

Many of the area routes (highway routes) were old Indian trails the settlers continued to use.

Same here in Indiana. Indiana, after all is generically named for them.
I lived in Merrillville growing up (south of Gary) and we had an old Indian village grounds smack dab in the middle of the town. The "original rt 30" followed the Potowatami (sp) trail through town.
South, a few miles, in Hebron Indiana there is a monument stone showing the spot where they were rounded up, and sent to, I think, Oklahoma after the white man moved in. A very few were allowed to stay here, but most were forced to move.
The Kankakee river is a loose translation of the Indian name for the river.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

It's Pottawattamie.

That's the name of the county I live in in Iowa.

There are a lot of places that have Indian related names around here. 

[Waffle]

Aug 31, 2015 10:48:54 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Denali

I had to think for a moment to realize that it was still officially called Mt. McKinley. I haven't heard anyone call it that in years.

So, I'm the only one who had never heard of Denali, until yesterday?

[OldCoyote]

Yeaaa, I know i am so easily confused,  on one hand Obama tells us all the ice is going to be gone,  how much has already disappeared,   

Then I read news stories of how Ice breakers had to break up 800 miles of ice,  so tankers could deliver fuel to Nome because of early fall sea ice,

Orrr, the expedition to study the loss of ice getting stuck in Hudson Bay  in the summer BECAUSE of ice,   Now there is an "inconvenient truth". 

Since we are big now on Indian names and saying,   here is one that fits,  Obama speaks with forked tongue!   

[billisonboard]

Sept 1, 2015 9:07:45 GMT -5 Waffle said:

Aug 31, 2015 10:48:54 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Denali

I had to think for a moment to realize that it was still officially called Mt. McKinley. I haven't heard anyone call it that in years.

So, I'm the only one who had never heard of Denali, until yesterday?

Yes.

[zibazinski]

Florida is full of Indian names. Pronouncing some of them is a lot of fun! Tongue twisters!!

[Value Buy]

Sept 1, 2015 9:15:37 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Florida is full of Indian names. Pronouncing some of them is a lot of fun! Tongue twisters!!

Especially after a couple of fire water drinks.

[zibazinski]

I probably would do better. There's a river, omg. I never get it right.

[Deleted]

OMG do we need to do this again? Glaciers are fresh water. They melt at greater rates they change the salinity of the ocean water... Salt water freezes at lower temps. So now, due to changed salinity the ocean freezes at higher temps increasing surface ice..

Doesn't change the underlying issue... Not mutually exclusive...