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Post by Blonde Granny on Aug 21, 2015 12:15:59 GMT -5
Is There Any Chance of Anna Duggar Divorcing Josh Duggar Now That He's Admitted to Cheating?!
Excerpt from the story:
A source told People today, meanwhile, that "Anna will not leave him. As with her in-laws, she is turning more to her faith than ever. She and Josh are probably praying around the clock right now, I would assume." Moreover, the source said, "Maybe not publicly, ever, but privately, there will be some suggestion of whether or not she should have been more aware of the pressures Josh was under, of the issues he was facing, and how she could have better counseled him or helped him."
www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/is-there-any-chance-of-anna-duggar-divorcing-josh-duggar-now-that-hes-admitted-to-cheating/ar-BBlY3j5
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Post by midjd on Aug 21, 2015 12:43:12 GMT -5
My face kind of hurts now from the MASSIVE eyeroll I just did. Holy crap. Those men... they just can't help themselves!
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Post by swamp on Aug 21, 2015 12:53:48 GMT -5
My face kind of hurts now from the MASSIVE eyeroll I just did. Holy crap. Those men... they just can't help themselves! my eyes just bounced across my desk from my huge eye roll.
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Post by busymom on Aug 21, 2015 12:55:25 GMT -5
So, in their world the men rule. Until they screw up. Then, it's all the woman's fault. Righhhhhht...
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 21, 2015 12:58:26 GMT -5
So, in their world the men rule. Until they screw up. Then, it's all the woman's fault. Righhhhhht... if you examine the idea of "traditional marriage" closely enough, it always leads back to this point.
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Post by busymom on Aug 21, 2015 13:24:25 GMT -5
So, in their world the men rule. Until they screw up. Then, it's all the woman's fault. Righhhhhht... if you examine the idea of "traditional marriage" closely enough, it always leads back to this point. Perhaps in some families, but not in the one I was raised in.
If Duggar wanted outside action that badly, he should've divorced Anna. Of course, with what we know now about what he is alleged to have done to his little sisters, he's no prize anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 13:24:34 GMT -5
So, in their world the men rule. Until they screw up. Then, it's all the woman's fault. Righhhhhht... Well of course it's the woman's fault. That's how it's always been. When are you going to get straight on this ? Men are only here to take credit for the positive events.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 21, 2015 13:43:05 GMT -5
Given Quiverfull's approach to the reason women are on this earth, and their role in a relationship, it comes as no surprise. That, along with the fact that she has nowhere to go. Four small children (ages about 6,4,2 and a month old) and no job skills. If she leaves him, she comes under pressure from the sect leaders. Divorce really is not an option, unless the idea of excommunication from everyone and everything you know is OK with you. That means she loses contact with her own family as well (they are also members).
Sitting on this side of the situation, we all think (heck, we KNOW) she could do it. Many posters here have left very bad relationships, started over with nothing and made it back. But we didn't usually do it with the cloud of losing everyone we ever knew and loved hanging over us. Nor did we do it knowing we had no chance at further education or job training or being able to even manage day-to-day life on our own. Anna, like most Quiverfull women and cult-raised women in general, has no life skills training, other than making babies and keeping a house going.
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Post by bean29 on Aug 21, 2015 14:44:19 GMT -5
You can bet Anna's praying for Josh. I really doubt these men are any more "faithful" to their religion than they are to their wives.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Aug 21, 2015 14:51:48 GMT -5
These men are faithful to making a buck or two or a million. The whole family is fucked up.
Four kids is the max...but I don't want to judge those who have the heart and the means to take care of more.
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Post by andi9899 on Aug 21, 2015 15:09:38 GMT -5
I'm surprised the woman he cheated with hasn't gone public and claimed her 15 minutes of fame. Or did I miss it?
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 21, 2015 15:10:36 GMT -5
Given Quiverfull's approach to the reason women are on this earth, and their role in a relationship, it comes as no surprise. That, along with the fact that she has nowhere to go. Four small children (ages about 6,4,2 and a month old) and no job skills. If she leaves him, she comes under pressure from the sect leaders. Divorce really is not an option, unless the idea of excommunication from everyone and everything you know is OK with you. That means she loses contact with her own family as well (they are also members). Sitting on this side of the situation, we all think (heck, we KNOW) she could do it. Many posters here have left very bad relationships, started over with nothing and made it back. But we didn't usually do it with the cloud of losing everyone we ever knew and loved hanging over us. Nor did we do it knowing we had no chance at further education or job training or being able to even manage day-to-day life on our own. Anna, like most Quiverfull women and cult-raised women in general, has no life skills training, other than making babies and keeping a house going. If she was homeschooled, which is likely, her primary/high school education is probably sub-par. Not because homeschooling is sub-par, but groups like Quiverfull follow their own cirriculum standards. Who knows what they focus on and what they skip all together.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 21, 2015 15:14:15 GMT -5
Given Quiverfull's approach to the reason women are on this earth, and their role in a relationship, it comes as no surprise. That, along with the fact that she has nowhere to go. Four small children (ages about 6,4,2 and a month old) and no job skills. If she leaves him, she comes under pressure from the sect leaders. Divorce really is not an option, unless the idea of excommunication from everyone and everything you know is OK with you. That means she loses contact with her own family as well (they are also members). Sitting on this side of the situation, we all think (heck, we KNOW) she could do it. Many posters here have left very bad relationships, started over with nothing and made it back. But we didn't usually do it with the cloud of losing everyone we ever knew and loved hanging over us. Nor did we do it knowing we had no chance at further education or job training or being able to even manage day-to-day life on our own. Anna, like most Quiverfull women and cult-raised women in general, has no life skills training, other than making babies and keeping a house going. If she was homeschooled, which is likely, her primary/high school education is probably sub-par. Not because homeschooling is sub-par, but groups like Quiverfull follow their own cirriculum standards. Who knows what they focus on and what they skip all together. The field is a bit crowded at the moment. Next week.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Aug 21, 2015 15:27:34 GMT -5
We are paying way too much attention to this sick moron...
Later, all good people.
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Post by kittensaver on Aug 21, 2015 15:31:11 GMT -5
Given Quiverfull's approach to the reason women are on this earth, and their role in a relationship, it comes as no surprise. That, along with the fact that she has nowhere to go. Four small children (ages about 6,4,2 and a month old) and no job skills. If she leaves him, she comes under pressure from the sect leaders. Divorce really is not an option, unless the idea of excommunication from everyone and everything you know is OK with you. That means she loses contact with her own family as well (they are also members). Sitting on this side of the situation, we all think (heck, we KNOW) she could do it. Many posters here have left very bad relationships, started over with nothing and made it back. But we didn't usually do it with the cloud of losing everyone we ever knew and loved hanging over us. Nor did we do it knowing we had no chance at further education or job training or being able to even manage day-to-day life on our own. Anna, like most Quiverfull women and cult-raised women in general, has no life skills training, other than making babies and keeping a house going. If she was homeschooled, which is likely, her primary/high school education is probably sub-par. Not because homeschooling is sub-par, but groups like Quiverfull follow their own cirriculum standards. Who knows what they focus on and what they skip all together. Good point. Sadly, a patriarchal cult such as this has the subjugation of women as one of its central activities. Women are only valued for their ability to reproduce, aka, perpetuate membership in the cult. Her family's only job is to deliver her chaste and untouched to the altar on her wedding day; after that, she has nothing to look forward to except a life of service and drudgery to her spouse and children while she raises the next generation of cult members (AND she has NO say in how many of them [children] there will be) .
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 21, 2015 15:36:33 GMT -5
And based on what Josh wanted in his profile, she's not getting a whole lot of enjoyment from sex either.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 21, 2015 16:05:43 GMT -5
I'm surprised the woman he cheated with hasn't gone public and claimed her 15 minutes of fame. Or did I miss it? No one has come forward claiming to be his lover. We don't know whether he had an actual hookup or not. Josh says he cheated on his wife. In his mind, that could be just by having the account and looking at Internet porn. Did he make an actual connection? At this point, the um, lucky lady or ladies have not stepped up and declared themselves for all of posterity - and their 15 minutes of fame. They may be arranging for agents, a reality show, a Playboy shoot, a " come cheat with me" app.....the possibilities are endless.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 21, 2015 16:33:40 GMT -5
And based on what Josh wanted in his profile, she's not getting a whole lot of enjoyment from sex either. I am sure switching from being totally non-sexual to totally sexual overnight comes with a lot of baggage. Sex is wrong, wrong, wrong and then it is right, right, right.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 21, 2015 16:39:00 GMT -5
Given Quiverfull's approach to the reason women are on this earth, and their role in a relationship, it comes as no surprise. That, along with the fact that she has nowhere to go. Four small children (ages about 6,4,2 and a month old) and no job skills. If she leaves him, she comes under pressure from the sect leaders. Divorce really is not an option, unless the idea of excommunication from everyone and everything you know is OK with you. That means she loses contact with her own family as well (they are also members). Sitting on this side of the situation, we all think (heck, we KNOW) she could do it. Many posters here have left very bad relationships, started over with nothing and made it back. But we didn't usually do it with the cloud of losing everyone we ever knew and loved hanging over us. Nor did we do it knowing we had no chance at further education or job training or being able to even manage day-to-day life on our own. Anna, like most Quiverfull women and cult-raised women in general, has no life skills training, other than making babies and keeping a house going. I would so love to get her on Norplant or some sort of BC
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 21, 2015 16:40:02 GMT -5
I'm surprised the woman he cheated with hasn't gone public and claimed her 15 minutes of fame. Or did I miss it? I can't imagine anyone sleeping with him to begin with. Ick
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 21, 2015 16:41:11 GMT -5
You can bet Anna's praying for Josh. I really doubt these men are any more "faithful" to their religion than they are to their wives. I'd be praying for him to be impotent and an early demise.
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Post by msventoux on Aug 21, 2015 16:52:10 GMT -5
I'm surprised the woman he cheated with hasn't gone public and claimed her 15 minutes of fame. Or did I miss it? No one has come forward claiming to be his lover. We don't know whether he had an actual hookup or not. Josh says he cheated on his wife. In his mind, that could be just by having the account and looking at Internet porn. Did he make an actual connection? At this point, the um, lucky lady or ladies have not stepped up and declared themselves for all of posterity - and their 15 minutes of fame. They may be arranging for agents, a reality show, a Playboy shoot, a " come cheat with me" app.....the possibilities are endless. I truly don't understand how the whole fame thing works in our society, but I would kill myself if the highlight of my life was being a Duggar's side piece. As for Anna, it's not surprising at all. Take a look at almost any of the Christian marriage counseling forums you can find on the internet. The default seems to be no matter what, it's the woman's fault, going all the way back to Eve. The guys not getting what he needs from his wife, so he looks elsewhere-not his fault. Other women are immodest and immoral and tempted him-not his fault. Screw around and lie to everyone in your life-bad boy, but Jesus saves and you're automatically forgiven if you ask for forgiveness. Even if it's a daily thing. Pretty sweet deal to win the lottery and be born with a penis.
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Post by busymom on Aug 21, 2015 18:10:02 GMT -5
He can't even use any of the usual lame excuses, like, he bumped into an old girlfriend, or went out drinking & things went too far. He was looking for sex on the internet. With anyone willing. What a total loser!
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Post by kittensaver on Aug 21, 2015 18:21:08 GMT -5
He can't even use any of the usual lame excuses, like, he bumped into an old girlfriend, or went out drinking & things went too far. He was looking for sex on the internet. With anyone willing. What a total loser! Hey - it's not his fault, doncha know? Being raised in the Quiverfull movement, he was not allowed to have a girlfriend - he could only "court" his wife and wait until he married her. And drink? Oh horror of horrors! A good and obedient Quiverfull child would NEVER drink! So (poor guy ), his only choice was the interwebz . We should just pray hard and forgive him, right?
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Aug 21, 2015 18:56:28 GMT -5
The man will do anything to find a way to blame his main female for the cheating. He will even create a problem for the slutsky/friends to buy into.
Some men are depraved and don't need an excuse. Don't care who they hurt.
My desire is for these cheats to feel the hurt they inflict longer and deeper than they dish out.
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Post by sesfw on Aug 21, 2015 19:04:53 GMT -5
there will be some suggestion of whether or not she should have been more aware of the pressures Josh was under, of the issues he was facing, and how she could have better counseled him or helped him."
Shades of 'billary'.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself .............
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Post by msventoux on Aug 21, 2015 19:19:48 GMT -5
There's a certain type of man who is drawn to that sort of faith who will blame the woman for everything, not just cheating. My father was an alcoholic who found god and became a fundie. It completely reinforced his overinflated sense of self importance and he enjoyed the whole man is image of god and head of household role and all that came with it.
As an example, we had moved out of state for a job of his. My parents bought a house. My mom (and us kids) were really excited because it was the first nice house we'd ever lived in and we'd been living out in the middle of nowhere without running water or other amenities for years. About a year later he gets fired because he can't play nicely with others, and it's my mother's fault because she was too prideful of having a nice new home and now it was being taken away from us because of that. He got prostate cancer and it was her fault because essentially she didn't have sex with him often enough to keep his pipes cleaned out, so to speak.
Nothing bad was ever his fault or due to chance, fate or even god punishing him for something. And nothing good was because of anything other than him and his efforts and sacrifices. Unfortunately he was far from the only one with that mindset in multitude of churches we went to.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 21, 2015 19:44:38 GMT -5
There's a certain type of man who is drawn to that sort of faith who will blame the woman for everything, not just cheating. My father was an alcoholic who found god and became a fundie. It completely reinforced his overinflated sense of self importance and he enjoyed the whole man is image of god and head of household role and all that came with it. As an example, we had moved out of state for a job of his. My parents bought a house. My mom (and us kids) were really excited because it was the first nice house we'd ever lived in and we'd been living out in the middle of nowhere without running water or other amenities for years. About a year later he gets fired because he can't play nicely with others, and it's my mother's fault because she was too prideful of having a nice new home and now it was being taken away from us because of that. He got prostate cancer and it was her fault because essentially she didn't have sex with him often enough to keep his pipes cleaned out, so to speak. Nothing bad was ever his fault or due to chance, fate or even god punishing him for something. And nothing good was because of anything other than him and his efforts and sacrifices. Unfortunately he was far from the only one with that mindset in multitude of churches we went to. thanks for posting this. you have my deepest sympathies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 20:01:57 GMT -5
if you examine the idea of "traditional marriage" closely enough, it always leads back to this point. Perhaps in some families, but not in the one I was raised in.
If Duggar wanted outside action that badly, he should've divorced Anna. Of course, with what we know now about what he is alleged to have done to his little sisters, he's no prize anyway.
Then you weren't raised in a family with a "traditional marriages". Sorry... but "traditional marriage" is "Man in charge, woman as property, everything that is wrong or bad is her fault."... That's the way marriage has been, traditionally speaking, since the first two people got together thousands and thousands of years ago. ETA: to clarify MY position though... I don't think that's the recipe for a GOOD marriage... it's just that it's the TRADITION of marriage (oh... and I almost forgot, "traditional" marriage also includes multiple wives or mistresses or concubines... or any combination of the three).
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