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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 12, 2011 19:34:26 GMT -5
Damn wonder which end its on either the old Centra people or United. I also had no idea they'd sold out. Of course I'm just mostly passing through that town these days. Guess they'll need a new advertising slogan these days. I met the people who originally opened Centra at some WVU function. I guess if they are getting Centra's existing customer base they might need all the branches but I just can't imagine they would need them all in Morgantown anyway. United's already got a pretty big presence in Morgantown especially with that big newish building near Centra's Suncrest location. I guess by putting the name up here we might find out how many people on here are from WV. I do have 2 WV based banks but fortunately I don't have Centra or United.
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Post by pammy831 on Mar 12, 2011 20:57:32 GMT -5
busymom: Oh how I wish that more people were like you. I usually feel as if this country has downgraded a lot from the days when military members were treated like the heroes that they are. But then there are the people who turn up, like you and a few others on this thread, that make me realize that there are still good people out there who understand the importance and the sacrifice of what the military does. I just wish everyone could be like that.
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Post by pammy831 on Mar 12, 2011 21:12:27 GMT -5
wvugurl: I'm wondering if you're the only person on here who will actually know the bank or not lol. Yes, we sold out to United a few months back. And that's another issue that Centra has been shady about. They told us that it was a "merger" and that that's what we were to tell people who asked about it, but it's not a merger when the new bank buys you, they pay a price for you, they're bigger than you, and you're taking the new bank's name!!! I'd say this choice to not let me off is on the end of Centra because we don't even have anyone in our branch (one of the Uniontown, PA branches) from United yet, nor do I know if we ever will. Most of the Fayette County, PA branches weren't or at least haven't been affected by the merger too much. Morgantown is the real issue. Like you said, there is a lot of overlap. There are like 2 locations in Morgantown where United and Centra are right on top of each other: Suncrest and Westover. We were supposed to know back on February 11th who all was losing their job, but I honestly don't know who all in Morgantown lost their job. They haven't closed any of the branches yet and I don't know if they will. It will be very interesting to see what they do in Suncrest because the Centra building is very nice and is only a couple years old. The big United building is more than a couple years old but it's huge, although not that good logistically for a bank if you ask me. The drive thru is very weird and you have to park in this garage like thing which is very odd and inconvenient for a bank I think. I know that the Centra building is almost empty upstairs except for just a couple offices.
But on a separate note, the future of banking for employees as we know it now seems kind of scary anyway to be honest. I use USAA, which means I couldn't go to a branch even if I wanted to, and I'm ok with that. I see no need to go to a branch. My husband and I both get direct deposit. I have mobile deposit on my iPhone where I can take a picture of a check that I need to deposit if it's something that can't be direct deposited, like a personal check that I got for my birthday or something. As time goes on, I think people will go to a bank branch less and less. Banking is becoming so automated and the older folks who aren't with the times will eventually die off and then nobody will be coming to the bank to bug me for a roll of quarters lol. I'd love to hear more people's opinions about the future of banking!
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Post by Jake 48 on Mar 12, 2011 21:16:32 GMT -5
Spend the time with your DH
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Post by TheOtherMe on Mar 12, 2011 21:25:22 GMT -5
Spend the time with your DH Exactly. Your time with your hubby is very precious. Please thank him for his service and thank you for your sacrifices.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 12, 2011 22:04:15 GMT -5
I thought the United building in Suncrest was new? Although I don't know how much of it United occupies versus how much of it Steptoe & Johnson occupies. I've been in the Centra building in Suncrest, it is mostly offices long ago when I interviewed with them. That is prime real estate being by the hospital and football stadium. And Centra's Westover office I think is maybe 3 years old.
They had ample notice to cover your shifts for the two week period and they chose not to. Jobs like that are easily replaced. And for future job hunts its better to say you left on your own terms instead of being fired for not showing up.
Maybe some lurkers out there know what we are talking about or maybe we are the only two on here who know lol. The only reason I go to my actual banks are to deposit checks I get or move money between my accounts because they are at different banks. I keep meaning to set part of my paycheck to go to the other account to pay the stuff that is auto deducted from it. Lord knows payroll will probably screw that up.
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Post by kristi28 on Mar 12, 2011 22:42:07 GMT -5
Pammy: you go girl! Good job being assertive and standing up for yourself. I hope that it works out the same way for you that it did for me, but either way, you are getting the precious time with your husband. Thank him (and you) for his service!
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Post by bobosensei on Mar 13, 2011 5:59:11 GMT -5
Pam- my husband is also Army and in a combat arms MOS.
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Post by pammy831 on Mar 13, 2011 10:41:23 GMT -5
jake 48 & theotherme & kristi28: Thank you so much for your support!
wvugurl: I've only been in the United building one time and it was in the very bottom level to go to one of the restaurants that used to be in there. I think it was the Uno pizzeria place. So, if they happen to tell me on Monday that I can't have the days off and I then quit, do you still think I should put them on my resume? I'm very scared that this whole debacle will persuade them to give me a bad reference.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 13, 2011 14:18:05 GMT -5
Yep that's the building I'm thinking of. Isn't it pretty new? It was Uno's there on the left side of the building and then it was some English pub place and now its empty.
If they say you can't have the days off and you quit, I'd still put them on your resume/any applications. I think it looks better than having such a big gap. I think most places just confirm dates of employment and nothing else.
I'd also wonder if by moving to a different state, if they will even bother calling someplace in PA. I know when I moved to Morgantown and was trying to find a job, no one cared what experience I'd had in my hometown and that was in the same state!
I don't think you made an unreasonable request of them and they've had all the time in the world to cover your shifts which it doesn't seem like are very many. If you have an application that asks for reason for leaving, I might just put relocating. You are getting close to your husband's return to TN and you leaving PA.
With the way the economy is I think the big thing is just to be able to say you left on your own terms. I have a feeling that some places may be weeding out applicants who say yes, I've been fired before.
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Post by katedenorm on Mar 13, 2011 16:30:26 GMT -5
I hope that all goes well for you this week and there's not much todo about it.
BF goes out of town Monday through Thursday for work and it throws me off. I can not begin to imagine how you cope, but you must do it well.
Enjoy your husbands company and have a wonderful time catching up with him. #thumbsup#
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Post by formerexpat on Mar 13, 2011 21:13:21 GMT -5
Depends on the situation, but yes, we've made other exceptions. Are you sure you want to be part of the big, bad insurance industry. My wife is about to have our second son this week and my company gives 2 weeks parental leave. Not a bad perk. [/size]
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 13, 2011 21:24:00 GMT -5
Nah I just audit the big bad insurance industry We've established she doesn't need the money. If they say tomorrow she can't have the Saturdays off, then she walks easy peasy.
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Post by schildi on Mar 13, 2011 21:32:09 GMT -5
Depends on the situation, but yes, we've made other exceptions. Are you sure you want to be part of the big, bad insurance industry. [/size][/quote] Good point, I think I'll pass. :-) The big perk I have is that I can work at home whenever I want to, even if it was for several weeks if there is a good reason. I guess I'll have to continue living with that then, if your perks involve work for insurance. tough made a good point about the unemployment insurance though, certainly something to think about .... oh, and expat, I was kidding above.
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Post by qofcc on Mar 14, 2011 7:56:59 GMT -5
If you just take the time off without permission, it is no different functionally than quitting as far as unemployment is concerned. You will be fired as "insubordinate."
But they gave her permission, then they changed their minds. It's a grey area, that would be decided by an unemployment hearing. I'd say there was a good chance it would be decided in her favor. If she had asked for the time off and they said no right from the start, then they would have grounds, but since someone else pointed out that military leave of a family member is grounds for FMLA, then she would probably still win.
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Post by hoops902 on Mar 14, 2011 8:16:00 GMT -5
Hey, let us know which bank it is (if they're national) if they decide to cut you loose. No use patronizing a bank that is unfriendly to military families. Best of luck to you, and God Bless your husband for his service to our country! No offense, but who cares how the bank is toward "military families"? It's not the bank's fault OP's husband took a job which means he's rarely home. The issue should be that they apparently approved her time off and then told her she couldn't have it off, the reason for her request is irrevelant. If they agreed to give her the day off they should honor that arrangement, her husband's career choice is irrelevant.
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Post by Urban Chicago on Mar 14, 2011 8:17:19 GMT -5
Just wanted to mention that the posters who say "it's only 2 half-Saturdays" are missing the point. She asked for the time and was granted it, they should not pull this now. What if she had decided to go on a vacation with her DH? It would ruin the whole leave if she had to go back for those 2 days.
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Post by hoops902 on Mar 14, 2011 8:18:46 GMT -5
"but since someone else pointed out that military leave of a family member is grounds for FMLA, then she would probably still win."
FMLA doesn't apply to "I just want to see someone who's on military leave". It applies to those in the Guard or Reserves only (not regular enlisted) who's callup to active duty causes a need for a family member to take off of work to take care of specific approved issues.
Also only applies to employees with a minimum amount of work at the employer (I think it's 12 months and like 1,000-1,500 hours of work per year approximately).
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Post by hoops902 on Mar 14, 2011 8:21:35 GMT -5
"At least 3 months ago, I asked my supervisor at work if I could have the time off while my husband's home to be with him. They said that that wouldn't be a problem."
Random question, did you know 3 months ago what days it was going to be? As in, did you say 3 months ago "I need xx date and xx date"? Or did you say "I am gonna need some time off in 3 months or so".
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Post by schildi on Mar 14, 2011 8:51:44 GMT -5
Hey, let us know which bank it is (if they're national) if they decide to cut you loose. No use patronizing a bank that is unfriendly to military families. Best of luck to you, and God Bless your husband for his service to our country! No offense, but who cares how the bank is toward "military families"? It's not the bank's fault OP's husband took a job which means he's rarely home. The issue should be that they apparently approved her time off and then told her she couldn't have it off, the reason for her request is irrevelant. If they agreed to give her the day off they should honor that arrangement, her husband's career choice is irrelevant. Wow, you said it , but I agree. "At least 3 months ago, I asked my supervisor at work if I could have the time off while my husband's home to be with him. They said that that wouldn't be a problem." Random question, did you know 3 months ago what days it was going to be? As in, did you say 3 months ago "I need xx date and xx date"? Or did you say "I am gonna need some time off in 3 months or so". To me, this sounds like the "should not be a problem" reply by the supervisor 3 months in advance, without really approving anything at that point, nor knowing the exact dates. Was the vacation really formally "approved" as everybody here assumes?
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Post by schildi on Mar 14, 2011 8:58:03 GMT -5
Just wanted to mention that the posters who say "it's only 2 half-Saturdays" are missing the point. She asked for the time and was granted it, they should not pull this now. What if she had decided to go on a vacation with her DH? It would ruin the whole leave if she had to go back for those 2 days. Are you sure the vacation was "granted", with specific dates and such? It does not sound like it to me. According to the OP there was a (casual?) conversation about the vacation with a supervisor three months ago, but not with the assistant manager who apparently is the one to approve it. And, pammy did get the two weeks off, except those two Saturdays (half days?).
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Mar 14, 2011 9:04:27 GMT -5
As difficult as it might be emotionally for you, I would just work the two Saturdays and get it over with. You might need this job down the road, or you might need the reference for future employment. I am guessing your branch isn't open all day on Saturdays anyway. I've had much coveted vacation time cancelled as well, when the staffing needs of the company were changed all of a sudden. I doubt that working the Saturdays is the real issue for you. I think that there is more of an anger that an exception for your being a military wife with real hardships is not being made for you. I can understand that, but I can also understand the manager's point of view on the staffing issue. Well, best wishes however it turns out, and I hope you and your husband have a happy reunion.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Mar 14, 2011 12:03:24 GMT -5
...:::"He will be coming home for 2 weeks for a mid-tour leave. He will be arriving here in the states probably Monday or Tuesday. At least 3 months ago, I asked my supervisor at work if I could have the time off while my husband's home to be with him. They said that that wouldn't be a problem. Well, the assistant manager lays on me today that I have to work the Saturdays while he's home...":::...
In your situation I would probably quit, and relish doing so. Make sure you submit the proper documentation so they can't claim you left without enough notice.
Although maybe those two saturdays will be the days that your husband wants to see some of his friends or something. I mean, it could work out OK if you want to keep the paycheck for a little while longer. I'm not suggesting spending time with him is unimportant. I understand that. I'm just saying it could work out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 13:05:29 GMT -5
Just wanted to mention that the posters who say "it's only 2 half-Saturdays" are missing the point. She asked for the time and was granted it, they should not pull this now. What if she had decided to go on a vacation with her DH? It would ruin the whole leave if she had to go back for those 2 days. When I was hired at my current job, I told them I was getting married and would be gone for a few weeks, (that was in Aug, the wedding is in May). The person that hired is the one doing the schedule for my department, fyi. She said it was not problem, she was getting married in a few weeks as well. Well I was checking the request off book and saw that needed time off was blocked off as not being able to request off. I asked her about it and she said, you never formally requested it, you may not get it. I am sitting there going "WHAT?!". She thinks I will give up my wedding for a part time job, that I mostly got to pay for that wedding? LOL, I plan to give my two weeks and explain why. You should not push the person who can quit, if you really need the extra body.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 14, 2011 17:29:54 GMT -5
She's moving back to a completely different state hundreds of miles away when her husband returns. Unless you are pretty high up on the food chain, I've found employers to not care about any experiences I had in a different geographic area.
The paycheck isn't important and knowing her area, she could probably find another temp job easily after her husband leaves. Perhaps even one with full time hours if she so desires.
She asked for the time off from the person she thought she needed to ask and they said no problem. Now they have changed their minds. I don't trust companies like that and I don't need to work for them.
It is not that hard to schedule enough tellers for a half day Saturday from your pool. And further knowing this bank and having applied with them before for a different position, I believe I've seen them advertising for floating tellers so they could pull someone from another location.
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Post by hoops902 on Mar 14, 2011 17:46:16 GMT -5
"You should not push the person who can quit, if you really need the extra body"
My guess is they could care less if she quits. She's a part time, easily replaceable, entry level employee in a bad economy where everyone is looking for jobs.
"She asked for the time off from the person she thought she needed to ask and they said no problem."
I think this is really the crux of the issue. It's not completely clear in her OP. Did she "ask for some time off when her husband was on leave"? or did she "ask for x/x/xx through x/x/xx dates off?"
I mean if you came up to me and said "I need some time off for my wedding in the Fall" I'd probably say the same thing her employer said, "ok, we can make that happen", but you've still gotta tell me which days they are in accordance with the time off request policy. I can't just hold every week from now through the end of the year because you say you're going to request it sometime.
I'm also curious if OP is working other days in those 2 weeks? From the sounds of it she got 12 of 14 days off or something like that. That's not quite the tragedy everyone seems to want to make it out to be. I'd be much angrier if I was working the entire week, THEN also Saturdays for those 2 weeks.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 14, 2011 18:37:47 GMT -5
Well having no idea what her normal shifts are its hard to say if she got the whole week off. She's only working part time hours so is she working a couple 8 hour shifts and a couple hours on Saturday or does she have to go in everyday for a couple hours?
I've had no trouble jumping back into a temp job in that area when I needed to and I think the economy's better today than it was in late 2009 the last time I did it. I really don't think its anything to dwell on. They don't have to accomodate her request and she doesn't have to continue working there.
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Post by schildi on Mar 14, 2011 19:11:33 GMT -5
That's not quite the tragedy everyone seems to want to make it out to be. That's the bottom line I was trying to point out for a while. Based on the information we have, I would also not see this as much of a tragedy. For sure it's not "unfriendly to military families", at least in my book, and "boycotting" this bank seems a bit far fetched.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 19:18:15 GMT -5
"You should not push the person who can quit, if you really need the extra body" My guess is they could care less if she quits. She's a part time, easily replaceable, entry level employee in a bad economy where everyone is looking for jobs. "She asked for the time off from the person she thought she needed to ask and they said no problem." I think this is really the crux of the issue. It's not completely clear in her OP. Did she "ask for some time off when her husband was on leave"? or did she "ask for x/x/xx through x/x/xx dates off?" I mean if you came up to me and said "I need some time off for my wedding in the Fall" I'd probably say the same thing her employer said, "ok, we can make that happen", but you've still gotta tell me which days they are in accordance with the time off request policy. I can't just hold every week from now through the end of the year because you say you're going to request it sometime. I'm also curious if OP is working other days in those 2 weeks? From the sounds of it she got 12 of 14 days off or something like that. That's not quite the tragedy everyone seems to want to make it out to be. I'd be much angrier if I was working the entire week, THEN also Saturdays for those 2 weeks. At least at my work, they have changed the "requests off" procedure and prior had no way to request off officially time that far off. I did ask if there was any where I could write down the time off I needed, but she said it was no problem and when we got closer to the time remind her. I did remind her two month ahead of time but since we had someone quit, nope. Sorry she should have been looking for a new person for a while now. She had a person on medical leave and people working OT because of it, she had two supervisors quit because of time demands and has a pregnant woman due in August. If you know about all of this and can't staff without OT for months at a time (April-Jun) sorry find a new person to hire. Don't push your employees because you don't think they will quit or can quit for that matter. But, if you know the person can and will, maybe not the one to push too much.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 14, 2011 20:17:43 GMT -5
I used to work for a bank and management CAN and DOES step in and cover for tellers.
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