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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Dec 11, 2013 16:59:43 GMT -5
She wasn't on her death bed as I've pointed out many times. That being said, I would have done it on her death bed. Yes, I'm an evil person. I won't go into the half of what she did to me. No ones business but my own but if there's a hell, I hope she's in it. She deserves it and more. It wasn't about money or attention. She purposely was cruel for her own amusement because it gave her power over people, especially a helpless child.So you showed her you were better by being purposely cruel to an old women who was months from death...when she was too weak to fight back? Yes, that is what made zib the happy, healthy, baggage-free person we know and love today.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:03:47 GMT -5
Oh, f you, you superior piece of shit. You have no clue what I went through and should shut your stupid mouth right now.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:07:08 GMT -5
Excuse me for saying that. This opens up some very deep hurts and wounds. I cannot be objective on the subject.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:09:16 GMT -5
Whatever.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Dec 11, 2013 17:10:02 GMT -5
Oh, f you, you superior piece of shit. You have no clue what I went through and should shut your stupid mouth right now. But see.. you brought it up! In all of your hate spewing glory. It sounds absolutely despicable the way you treated your mother but you seem to hate every female that you are related to... so we're really not surprised. I'm with MM on this one....honestly, you sound like a very angry, bitter woman. I don't know you in real life so maybe PB is just how you vent to get it all out of your system. But if you are really as awful in real life as you come across on-line....
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:10:25 GMT -5
Dramas feelings are valid and she needs to do what she needs to do in order for her to heal. Someone telling her to "get over it" is totally insensitive and out of line.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Dec 11, 2013 17:10:52 GMT -5
What a heartwarming thread. I'm like brimming with holiday spirit over here. Merry Christmas Everyone!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Dec 11, 2013 17:13:26 GMT -5
Dramas feelings are valid and she needs to do what she needs to do in order for her to heal. Someone telling her to "get over it" is totally insensitive and out of line. Funny...I kind of think "giving both barrels"' to an old lady is totally insensitive and out of line. We all have our own opinions.
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Post by imawino on Dec 11, 2013 17:13:53 GMT -5
Excuse me for saying that. This opens up some very deep hurts and wounds. I cannot be objective on the subject. Then you should probably not continuously bring up your horrible mother, spineless father, piece of shit stepbrother, your spineless DF and his horrible ex and his horrible offspring, and your awful daughter. If speaking about how terrible everyone you come in contact with is too painful, then stop.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Dec 11, 2013 17:13:55 GMT -5
Dramas feelings are valid and she needs to do what she needs to do in order for her to heal. Someone telling her to "get over it" is totally insensitive and out of line. Oh the irony... <<laughing so hard she can't breathe>> LMAO!!!!!
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:14:37 GMT -5
Not your business to tell me to stop. It's my business to tell myself when to stop.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:16:12 GMT -5
They have their reasons, I'm sure. Whatever. It must be nice to be so superior and so perfect.
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Post by imawino on Dec 11, 2013 17:17:19 GMT -5
Not your business to tell me to stop. It's my business to tell myself when to stop. It was really just a suggestion. But bringing it up pretty much disqualifies you from playing the "it's too painful to talk about" card when other people comment on things YOU BRING UP.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:19:49 GMT -5
Yup.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:22:07 GMT -5
Okay, is everyone done with me now? I THINK everyone got in their last digs. Did anyone miss me? I'm still on so there's time. I only meant to say Dramas feelings were valid and opened up way too much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2013 17:22:09 GMT -5
She wasn't on her death bed as I've pointed out many times. That being said, I would have done it on her death bed. Yes, I'm an evil person. I won't go into the half of what she did to me. No ones business but my own but if there's a hell, I hope she's in it. She deserves it and more. It wasn't about money or attention. She purposely was cruel for her own amusement because it gave her power over people, especially a helpless child. What people hate the most about their parents are the traits they share/inherit AND hate in themselves. I used to hate it when my dad was "always right".
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Post by imawino on Dec 11, 2013 17:25:26 GMT -5
Guys, is there a reason you're poking Zib? Yes she brought it up, but really isn't it a bit obvious that there is a whole big back story to this that only Zib knows? If you ask me, part of what makes all this maddening for the responsible one of the family is all the "oh you don't have it that rough... get over it... it could be worse" crap. This really does fall under the category if you can't apply rationality to family dynamics, because usually there is none... just emotion. When you say "poking" do you mean is there a reason why I find gleeful comments about letting an old woman have it with both barrels and refusing to listen to her defend herself is disgusting? Yes, there is a reason. Because it IS disgusting. It is disgusting to talk about your mother, father, children, and assorted other "loved ones" the way that she does. She chooses to continue (and continue....and continue) doing it knowing that other people find it horrifying and offensive and knowing the response it will illicit.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Dec 11, 2013 17:28:57 GMT -5
I hadn't decided to post in this thread because I prefer to be a sarcastic smart ass and not delve into emotional pits much, but seeing some of the comments I guess I feel compelled to.
I can see where both Drama and Zib are coming from, I guess - though not necessarily the same way. I don't have a great relationship with my mother. Never have, never will.
Bad things happened to me when I was a kid. And quite frankly, I'll never get over them. Someone telling me to "get over it" just doesn't understand. There are few relationships that are precious as a parent to a child. Losing a parent - even if it is just an emotional loss rather than a physical one - is not something one ever 'gets over'. You only get one chance on earth to have a mother and one chance on earth to have a father. You can have multiple lovers and even multiple children. But you only get 1 mom and 1 dad usually.
I can see myself boiling over and screaming at my mother on her death bed. Knowing at that moment she will never apologize for what she did. Never admit that the things she said and did were wrong. Never admit that I deserved better and that I was a good kid. Never admit that she ruined countless years of my life, and negatively influenced my future by permanently inhibiting my relationships with others. Cementing for all eternity that I was robbed of one of the most precious relationships there are; and that I will never get another chance at. I will never get that apology. I know this now.
It's a huge loss. A monumental one. A life-altering one. And while I don't think I'm the type of person to scream at someone on their death bed, I guess I haven't had to stand there and "be the better person" while the person I love and hate the most simultaneously leaves the world. I hope I can be. But I might not. Sometimes the anger and the hurt can suppress the good people inside of us.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Dec 11, 2013 17:29:23 GMT -5
Guys, is there a reason you're poking Zib? Yes she brought it up, but really isn't it a bit obvious that there is a whole big back story to this that only Zib knows? If you ask me, part of what makes all this maddening for the responsible one of the family is all the "oh you don't have it that rough... get over it... it could be worse" crap. This really does fall under the category if you can't apply rationality to family dynamics, because usually there is none... just emotion. When you say "poking" do you mean is there a reason why I find gleeful comments about letting an old woman have it with both barrels and refusing to listen to her defend herself is disgusting? Yes, there is a reason. Because it IS disgusting. It is disgusting to talk about your mother, father, children, and assorted other "loved ones" the way that she does. She chooses to continue (and continue....and continue) doing it knowing that other people find it horrifying and offensive and knowing the response it will illicit. I'm half convinced she is a troll....no one can really hate that many people
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Dec 11, 2013 17:31:26 GMT -5
Guys, is there a reason you're poking Zib? Yes she brought it up, but really isn't it a bit obvious that there is a whole big back story to this that only Zib knows? If you ask me, part of what makes all this maddening for the responsible one of the family is all the "oh you don't have it that rough... get over it... it could be worse" crap. This really does fall under the category if you can't apply rationality to family dynamics, because usually there is none... just emotion. When you say "poking" do you mean is there a reason why I find gleeful comments about letting an old woman have it with both barrels and refusing to listen to her defend herself is disgusting? Yes, there is a reason. Because it IS disgusting. It is disgusting to talk about your mother, father, children, and assorted other "loved ones" the way that she does. She chooses to continue (and continue....and continue) doing it knowing that other people find it horrifying and offensive and knowing the response it will illicit. I just took issue with the idea that this course of action was recommended to a board member based on the notion that doing so made the poster in question a happer, healthier individual... when that poster doesn't seem to notice that she is full of vitriol and bitterness toward so much and so many. That's the part I really don't get.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:31:29 GMT -5
You wouldn't be far off.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:34:58 GMT -5
Seriously? You, of all people saying that? Jesus. Unreal.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Dec 11, 2013 17:40:56 GMT -5
Sroo, all of Zib's posts regardless of the topic all seem to twist into some hate filled rant about someone/something. This isn't an isolated moment of weakness... Gosh.. and a lot of them center around family. I wonder why that could be. Surely it's not that someone who has experienced unhealthy familial relationships growing up, might have a bit of a problem understanding what healthy ones are like. And the government, and any kind of social program. And zib is far from the only one around here who suffered abuse as a child.
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Post by imawino on Dec 11, 2013 17:43:56 GMT -5
When you say "poking" do you mean is there a reason why I find gleeful comments about letting an old woman have it with both barrels and refusing to listen to her defend herself is disgusting? Yes, there is a reason. Because it IS disgusting. It is disgusting to talk about your mother, father, children, and assorted other "loved ones" the way that she does. She chooses to continue (and continue....and continue) doing it knowing that other people find it horrifying and offensive and knowing the response it will illicit. Truthfully that sounds like your problem and not hers. So what if Zib's back story is that her mother beat her with hot fire poker everyday growing up and killed her puppy out of spite*. Is she still supposed wax poetically about her loving mother so as not to offend your delicate or ideological senses? *Totally made this up... That would be very sad. But I'm not sure how it would have translated ito making her stepbrother and his children asswipes? Or zib's own daughter awful? Or her fiance and his kids? or her dad? There's a common denominator here. And just a hint - it's not the puppy.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:43:59 GMT -5
Absolutely but having someone say those feelings aren't valid and adults should just get over them in hurtful and insulting.
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Post by imawino on Dec 11, 2013 17:44:51 GMT -5
Sroo, all of Zib's posts regardless of the topic all seem to twist into some hate filled rant about someone/something. This isn't an isolated moment of weakness... Gosh.. and a lot of them center around family. I wonder why that could be. Surely it's not that someone who has experienced unhealthy familial relationships growing up, might have a bit of a problem understanding what healthy ones are like. Yes I know the tone and content Zib's post regarding family take. And your right... it's not normal. Ever stop to think that one all the way through ? And ALL of them center around Zib. I wonder why that could be?
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Dec 11, 2013 17:52:30 GMT -5
It's like I've told my boys.. if ONE person seems to have a problem with EVERYONE ELSE... guess who is most likely the one who has the problem? I had a friend like this once. Literally all of her long-time friends 'broke up' with her, and after a while of it, she realized that there was indeed something of a pattern. She saw a therapist as I recall and dealt with what about her was causing this reaction in other people and relationships. She's been better, although we will never be the kind of friends we once were. I'm happy for her, but it's sad that she couldn't see it until she'd lost many friends.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Dec 11, 2013 18:02:07 GMT -5
It's a liitle known condition, on these boards anyway, known as sobriety. Makes people impossible to deal with.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Dec 11, 2013 18:02:23 GMT -5
I had a friend like this once. Literally all of her long-time friends 'broke up' with her, and after a while of it, she realized that there was indeed something of a pattern. She saw a therapist as I recall and dealt with what about her was causing this reaction in other people and relationships. She's been better, although we will never be the kind of friends we once were. I'm happy for her, but it's sad that she couldn't see it until she'd lost many friends. what was it?I'm not really sure because I had 'broken up' with her already by the time she pursued professional assistance, but I do know she had some childhood issues that she never properly dealt with. I think there was some abuse and also some issues around her birth father and her relationship with her mother. It's been a while. But last I heard, she was much better to be around because she was more aware of how she was affecting others with her anger, self-centeredness, and negativity.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Dec 11, 2013 18:25:37 GMT -5
It's a liitle known condition, on these boards anyway, known as sobriety. Makes people impossible to deal with. That's why I avoid it at all costs :-p
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