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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 7, 2013 17:44:53 GMT -5
Vicodin is awesome, but there's no way I could even pretend to hold down a job popping these things every day. Oxys are even stronger right? I feel like my body is made of jello, and it turns my brain to mush too. Thank god for Chrome and it's built in spell check. If you guys saw what this post looked like as I was typing it the first time... there's no way I could send work emails and stuff. My supervisors, colleagues, and clients would think I had a 3rd grade education.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Mar 7, 2013 17:51:54 GMT -5
Well, my hubby isn't exactly an addict, but he has been on hydrocodones continuously for the last 16 months. They don't turn his brain to mush for one. They don't even take away 100% of his pain (even the 10 mgs, hopefully they will soon). They take the edge off of it. Somedays they take more of the edge off the pain than others. Of course he wasn't holding down a job on them, just caring for our DS.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 7, 2013 17:57:23 GMT -5
None of that stuff has even taken the edge off for me all the way up to Percocet. I didn't get the jello sensation. No matter what I ate with them I ended up puking or wishing I could puke.
I used to work for a pharmaceutical manufacturer and we asked that question all the time. We'd have people call in that were wearing 2 100 mcg fentanyl patches. That stuff is way stronger than morphine.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 7, 2013 17:57:54 GMT -5
That explains it actually. Caring for an infant or toddler kind of turns your brain to mush anyway. It's masking the mental effects of the pain killers.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 7, 2013 18:00:52 GMT -5
Morphine was good, but it stopped me up so bad. They actually sent me back in for imaging after my appendectomy to make sure I didn't have an intestinal blockage. The surgery introduces gas into your abdomen, then the morphine basically made my sphincter stop working for three days. That sucked pretty bad.
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Post by dannylion on Mar 7, 2013 18:12:43 GMT -5
I used to do medical transcription for a pain clinic with lots of patients on chronic pain meds. The docs would occasionally dictate a letter to an employer or some other authority explaining that after a certain amount of time on regular pain meds, patients generally accommodate to the meds and should not necessarily be considered impaired for driving or operating other machinery, though apparently the pain-relief effect continues. I was surprised the first time that happened because I, too, wondered how people on chronic pain meds were able to function.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 7, 2013 18:14:40 GMT -5
It is not really hard, but it really does affect your powers of concentration for any period of time. Or at least it did for me. I had the attention span of a gnat.
My brain really didn't turn to mush, when I was on the max dose I was prescribed of Oxycontin (90 mg/day) and oxycodone (120 mg/day). I could think, reason and spell quite well but I just got easily distracted. I would also be going around quite fine and then zonk out.
Glad to it though, and I did ASAP. The first time I started sleeping through my night time 3 am dose, I started titrating down.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Mar 7, 2013 18:17:07 GMT -5
Morphine was good, but it stopped me up so bad. They actually sent me back in for imaging after my appendectomy to make sure I didn't have an intestinal blockage. The surgery introduces gas into your abdomen, then the morphine basically made my sphincter stop working for three days. That sucked pretty bad. After hubby's surgery, nothing touched teh pain of the muscle spasms he was having. They have him 3 shots of morphine and then percacet. He didn't poop for a week ... which added to his pain.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 7, 2013 18:19:34 GMT -5
That's probably a better way to describe it. It takes a lot more focus to focus right now. Like when you're a bit tipsy and have to concentrate extra hard to walk to the bathroom without hitting anything. I feel like I have to concentrate extra hard to do anything right now.[/span]
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Mar 7, 2013 18:40:23 GMT -5
I have a strangely high tolerance to chemicals, so Vicodin doesn't do hardly anything to me. Percocet does a *little*. I get a bit of a buzz on Percocet, but don't notice much else. Heck, the last time I was in the ER, the fentanyl (sp?) didn't hardly do mucher either. After the third dose of it, I told them to stop bothering. You'd think I was an addict!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 18:42:45 GMT -5
Morphine was good, but it stopped me up so bad. They actually sent me back in for imaging after my appendectomy to make sure I didn't have an intestinal blockage. The surgery introduces gas into your abdomen, then the morphine basically made my sphincter stop working for three days. That sucked pretty bad. I remember that well. Nurses wouldn't even give me Mylanta without a doctor's prescription. It was such a good thing I had a private room when it finally kicked in. Ugh.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 7, 2013 18:48:22 GMT -5
I have a strangely high tolerance to chemicals, so Vicodin doesn't do hardly anything to me. Percocet does a *little*. I get a bit of a buzz on Percocet, but don't notice much else. Heck, the last time I was in the ER, the fentanyl (sp?) didn't hardly do mucher either. After the third dose of it, I told them to stop bothering. You'd think I was an addict! I had something similar happen when they were installing my picc line the last time. They dosed me about 4x with something before I was sedated enough that they could install the line. After my last surgery, I had dilaudid in my PCA. I asked the nurse what I was being dosed at and she told me 1 mg. I told her that last surgery three months earlier I was at 3 mg, that she might want to start there....
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Post by Shooby on Mar 7, 2013 18:49:12 GMT -5
Obviously, addicts have a high pain tolerance. What would knock you into next week doesn't effect them in the same way. There are times these medications are necessary and also people who abuse them.
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Post by steph08 on Mar 7, 2013 18:49:20 GMT -5
My dad is really sensitive to painkillers - I think he was sick for a week after taking one Vicodin. Of course, he is also allergic to fentanyl - he didn't find that out until after his hernia surgery 15 years ago and it stopped his heart!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 7, 2013 18:49:25 GMT -5
BTW Dark....morphine isn't the only drug that is constipating. Vicodin is also.
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Post by Queen of Interesting Nuts on Mar 7, 2013 19:16:26 GMT -5
I don't. I feel like a big slug all day. I feel my mind is always fuzzy.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 7, 2013 19:31:56 GMT -5
I've had no problems with the vicodin in that department, thank god. If I did I'd stop taking the pills. Constipation and gas hurt far worse than an incision.[/span]
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 7, 2013 19:46:51 GMT -5
Vicodin is awesome, but there's no way I could even pretend to hold down a job popping these things every day. Oxys are even stronger right? I feel like my body is made of jello, and it turns my brain to mush too. Thank god for Chrome and it's built in spell check. If you guys saw what this post looked like as I was typing it the first time... there's no way I could send work emails and stuff. My supervisors, colleagues, and clients would think I had a 3rd grade education. I have NO idea. But I do know this- it's ADDICTIVE. Once you're physiologically dependent, it's one tough addiction to break. I don't even take the stuff. The answer to your question though, is that ultimately they don't. Someone we know was up to something like 10 to 12 Narco's (10mg) per day. Just crept up on them- and though we already have a lifelong addict in the family, and we thought something was wrong, we were shocked to learn it was them (very normal, stable, last person you'd think kinda person), and how much they were taking.
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Post by vonna on Mar 7, 2013 19:58:14 GMT -5
Well, my hubby jokes that I am a "cheap date" since I get tipsy on a small amount of alcohol. I think, for me, that may translate to how I react to pain killers as well.
The doc put me on percocet for an injury when I was active duty. Apparently, I giggled and my speech was rapid and a bit hard to understand. I had written a presentation and was supposed to brief a 4-star general. Although the presentation was spot-on, my ability to present was NOT.
I was told my supervisor would make the presentation, and that I could go back to my office. According to what I was told afterward, I was really pissed at the time. I also supposedly ran into a file cabinet, giggled, and then proceeded to have an entire conversation with the file cabinet.
Bottom line, I have VERY little memory of what happened when I was taking percocet. According to my coworkers, I hadn't lost my intellect, but was easily distracted, and quick to laugh!! I stopped the meds, and dealt with the pain. ouch. If memory serves me, the percocet didn't really make the pain go away, but it made me not care!!
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Post by damnotagain on Mar 7, 2013 20:15:12 GMT -5
Morphine , oh what a relief it is. It would make me feel like super man no matter how many body parts are missing. Nothing like a physical therapist or two for motivation . Like everything else sooner or later it becomes a choice. Do it or not. From what I have seen concerning cancer , I can see why such extreme medication is needed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 21:01:45 GMT -5
Interesting question. The guy that did my kitchen/dining room flooring was on pain meds. I didn't know this until it was too late . . . he had to borrow a pain pill from his grandmother to finish the job. He was a friend of sorts (SIL of my ex-bf). I worried that he would slice his fingers with the tile saw afterward, but he was actually better after than before. By the way, he eventually killed himself, which makes me so sad, because of the drugs. I did warn his wife, though, after the job that he was an addict. I also pointed out that his relatives were enablers.
Anyway, he did a really decent job although I worried a lot once I found out. I think it's a little like high-functioning alcoholics.
I don't take pain meds. It isn't that I don't feel pain, but it's not unmanageable. I ran into a wall and dented my skull. Two days later I had two black eyes so I went to an Urgent Care clinic. The guy asked me if I had a headache (sign of concussion). I looked at him and asked what does a headache feel like exactly? If I have had one (and probably had), it probably didn't register.
However, those foot shots with steroids are HELL!
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Post by Cookies Galore on Mar 7, 2013 21:21:42 GMT -5
I had dilaudid after my appendectomy. Loved it!
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Post by swamp on Mar 7, 2013 21:23:13 GMT -5
Percocet after a csection. Amazing.
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Post by Shooby on Mar 7, 2013 21:31:52 GMT -5
I had a ruptured VBAC with subsequent hyster and DIC so nothing much was helpful for that!
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 7, 2013 21:33:20 GMT -5
I must be the only person on earth who gets no relief from Percocet. Benadryl is hit or miss on whether it makes me even slightly sleepy and then it must be the tablet form. Taking the capsules is like taking candy. Ibuprofen is generally pretty good for me. I might as well skip Tylenol for all the benefit I get from it.
I had a cortisone shot in the side of my knee, that hurt like hell and it did zilch to bring down my pain level. I'm taking 1500mg of Relafen (NSAID) right now and it is no more effective than 800mg of ibuprofen at a time. Yes, I am aware of the risks at that dose and it was directed by my surgeon.
Flexeril will knock my ass out every time. It is really hard for me to wake up before 10-12 hours of sleep. I could not take one of those and function.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 21:46:42 GMT -5
I went to the hospital for a kidney stone and they gave me three shots of morphine in a 2 hour time frame. This was on Sunday night. The next thing I remember is Tuesday morning. They tell me I passed the stone sometime on Monday. I had no idea. I could not have functioned as a normal human being for love or money.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 7, 2013 22:34:45 GMT -5
I must be the only person on earth who gets no relief from Percocet. Benadryl is hit or miss on whether it makes me even slightly sleepy and then it must be the tablet form. Taking the capsules is like taking candy. Ibuprofen is generally pretty good for me. I might as well skip Tylenol for all the benefit I get from it. I had a cortisone shot in the side of my knee, that hurt like hell and it did zilch to bring down my pain level. I'm taking 1500mg of Relafen (NSAID) right now and it is no more effective than 800mg of ibuprofen at a time. Yes, I am aware of the risks at that dose and it was directed by my surgeon. Flexeril will knock my ass out every time. It is really hard for me to wake up before 10-12 hours of sleep. I could not take one of those and function. Benedryl has no effect on me, nada. I have to take massive quantities of percoset because I am tolerant. But despite taking massive quantities for along times (well over 6-8 weeks), I never had any problems tapering off of them. I have gone through most of the NSAIDs, naproxen was useless. Ibuprofen worked for awhile, then stopped. What worked best for me was Bextra. but it got yanked off the market. Diclofenac works almost equally as well. Flexeril is useless unless I take a narcotic with it.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 7, 2013 22:41:31 GMT -5
I must be the only person on earth who gets no relief from Percocet. Benadryl is hit or miss on whether it makes me even slightly sleepy and then it must be the tablet form. Taking the capsules is like taking candy. Ibuprofen is generally pretty good for me. I might as well skip Tylenol for all the benefit I get from it. I had a cortisone shot in the side of my knee, that hurt like hell and it did zilch to bring down my pain level. I'm taking 1500mg of Relafen (NSAID) right now and it is no more effective than 800mg of ibuprofen at a time. Yes, I am aware of the risks at that dose and it was directed by my surgeon. Flexeril will knock my ass out every time. It is really hard for me to wake up before 10-12 hours of sleep. I could not take one of those and function. Benedryl has no effect on me, nada. I have to take massive quantities of percoset because I am tolerant. But despite taking massive quantities for along times (well over 6-8 weeks), I never had any problems tapering off of them. I have gone through most of the NSAIDs, naproxen was useless. Ibuprofen worked for awhile, then stopped. What worked best for me was Bextra. but it got yanked off the market. Diclofenac works almost equally as well. Flexeril is useless unless I take a narcotic with it. Percocet has never worked. Flexeril always has. Ibuprofen was working then my physical therapist ratcheted up my exercises adding squats and I had pain in new spots. Since then nothing has touched the pain. I was to the point where ibuprofen brought it under control and I was out of the knee brace. MRI showed no ligament damage. I don't want narcotics but the current regimen is failing to even take the edge off.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 7, 2013 23:01:42 GMT -5
Benedryl has no effect on me, nada. I have to take massive quantities of percoset because I am tolerant. But despite taking massive quantities for along times (well over 6-8 weeks), I never had any problems tapering off of them. I have gone through most of the NSAIDs, naproxen was useless. Ibuprofen worked for awhile, then stopped. What worked best for me was Bextra. but it got yanked off the market. Diclofenac works almost equally as well. Flexeril is useless unless I take a narcotic with it. Percocet has never worked. Flexeril always has. Ibuprofen was working then my physical therapist ratcheted up my exercises adding squats and I had pain in new spots. Since then nothing has touched the pain. I was to the point where ibuprofen brought it under control and I was out of the knee brace. MRI showed no ligament damage. I don't want narcotics but the current regimen is failing to even take the edge off. What I have discovered is what one person considers the holy grail of NSAIDs, another person finds them useless. So you may want to ask your doctor for samples of NSAIDs and see if you can figure out which one seems to be most effective for you. On my hip group, most swore by Vioxx, but for me it never worked. Celebrex worked, but I had to remember to take it regularly and I often forgot. That was why Bextra worked so well for me, I could take a dose and get relief, not wait until I had taken it a couple days. Personally, I like diclofenac as an NSAID. Not only that, it's on the drugstore's cheap drug list.
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Post by taz157 on Mar 7, 2013 23:07:40 GMT -5
I must be the only person on earth who gets no relief from Percocet. Benadryl is hit or miss on whether it makes me even slightly sleepy and then it must be the tablet form. Taking the capsules is like taking candy. Ibuprofen is generally pretty good for me. I might as well skip Tylenol for all the benefit I get from it. I had a cortisone shot in the side of my knee, that hurt like hell and it did zilch to bring down my pain level. I'm taking 1500mg of Relafen (NSAID) right now and it is no more effective than 800mg of ibuprofen at a time. Yes, I am aware of the risks at that dose and it was directed by my surgeon. Flexeril will knock my ass out every time. It is really hard for me to wake up before 10-12 hours of sleep. I could not take one of those and function. I get no relief from Percocet either! I took it after my breast reduction surgery and hated how it made me feel (couldn't tell if I was awake or asleep) so I took Tylenol instead. After my c-section with DD, they gave me Percocet and brought back flashbacks to earlier. Also, it didn't do squat for the pain. Told the nurses that and they gave me Motrin instead, which worked great for the pain!
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