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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 7, 2013 23:10:42 GMT -5
I did have one drug I liked- once. I instantly knew why they keep it on lock down. A few years back I got a nasty viral infection that might have been a second round of chicken pox, but they still don't know- fever, lesions in my mouth, ears- it was pretty messed up. I was working ridiculous hours- sleeping four hours a night for like three months. Body just broke down- they even tested me for AIDS. It was downright scary. I was in my 20's and male- so, by the time I actually sought medical attention, I was so dehydrated from not being able to eat or drink that the ER doctor wasn't sure I'd live. So, there's your back story.
I was admitted, given IV fluids, but was still so uncomfortable from all the crap going on with my body and the virus that they gave me a shot of Demerol- which has to go into the muscle tissue, so the shots are quite miserable. But let me tell you- yeeeeeee haaaawwww. No way to really describe it except high as a kite- for about three seconds. Then OUT. That was the first real rest I got in 10 days. I probably had two or three more of those shots over the next 6 days. I tried desperately to AVOID it after the first one, but I'm telling you- this was one damn miserable, hellish experience.
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 7, 2013 23:18:27 GMT -5
People are individuals chemically, as well as in other ways. You don't have to have ever used narcotics to be resistant to them, and some people are resistant to one while reactive to another. About all one can do is work with your physician to try things until you find something that works for you.
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Post by lurkyloo on Mar 7, 2013 23:30:15 GMT -5
I've had no luck with morphine-based narcotics. About ten years ago I had a major back spasm and collapsed downtown in the middle of a bookstore. They took me to the campus health center, then the hospital; started with ibuprofen then went to IV morphine which just made me nauseous without doing anything for the pain. After nine or so hours of combined medical treatment and progressively stronger yet ineffective narcotic doses it finally occurred to somebody to give me a muscle relaxant. Walked out very slowly and carefully less than a hour later. They gave me flexeril and roxicet prescriptions before they discharged me. I probably still have that ten-year-old bottle of roxicet somewhere, minus one pill that did nothing for me. I will take flexeril if necessary (I've had a few back spasms since but nothing nearly that bad) but I hate how it makes me feel--knocks me out and I still feel muggy the next day. More recently they tried to fob me off with Tylenol 3 (the stuff with codeine) for my migraines because aspirin is contraindicated for pregnancy and my magic Excedrin is supposed to be off limits. T3 did nothing to help the headache, but gave me a nice backlash several hours later. Did my own reading on pubmed after that and found that low-dose aspirin has been studied widely as a preventive measure for preeclampsia; concluded that half an Excedrin tab was fine if necessary. It's amazing the difference between that and a full dose of Tylenol. The one works, the other...maybe takes the edge off if the headache isn't really trying. Ironically ibuprofen, which does nothing for me, is my DH's headache drug of choice. It's very true that effective NSAIDs vary widely between individuals...although I think Excedrin is very, very common among migraine sufferers.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 7, 2013 23:33:45 GMT -5
Flexeril is a muscle relaxant not a pain reliever. It works pretty good though. That's what my dentist gave me when my TMJ flared up.
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 7, 2013 23:37:17 GMT -5
I can't have morphine at all, my system can't stand it. A number of years ago after a liver biopsy I was given morphine and promptly began to crash. Me and morphine just do not mix well at all. Now funny enough I have a massive tolerance to pain and what I have found works better than everything else is plain old Tylenol.
Another thing that works wonders with me is BrainWave Entrainment. I get a headache, do a function command and I can feel the headache being moved around in my head dissipating into oblivion.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 7, 2013 23:41:15 GMT -5
That being said, I have a very high tolerance for pain and most of the stuff they try to give me codeine, percocet, vicodin, et al just make me tired. I'm usually fine with a prescription level of Motrin (ibuprofen).
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 7, 2013 23:46:19 GMT -5
I can't have morphine at all, my system can't stand it. A number of years ago after a liver biopsy I was given morphine and promptly began to crash. Me and morphine just do not mix well at all. Now funny enough I have a massive tolerance to pain and what I have found works better than everything else is plain old Tylenol.
Another thing that works wonders with me is BrainWave Entrainment. I get a headache, do a function command and I can feel the headache being moved around in my head dissipating into oblivion. So, I just Googled that and found a YouTube video of it. I find it fascinating, I will say though I'm dubious as to the scientific claims, but there's amazing power in suggestion so I'm not dismissing it out of hand. How long have you used this? Did you actually pay for this?
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 7, 2013 23:49:11 GMT -5
Yup I paid for Brainwave Entrainment CDs. Works freaking awesome for me and my doctors all know and are happy with my results. I started using Brainwave Entrainment in Sept. 2008 and it's still working for me.
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 8, 2013 0:12:48 GMT -5
Brainwave Entrainment has been around in one form or another for so long I forgot. I buy mine from a company that's been making them since the 50's or something. It depends which you go for. There's all music ones and you just relax and listen, but I love the human-plus line from Hemi-Sync. There's nothing like it out there ANYWHERE.
Lone anything you want to know about it I'll tell you what I know.
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 8, 2013 0:22:27 GMT -5
When I got Colon cancer in 2004/2005 I sailed right through it using Hypno-Peripheral Processing for the last 6 months, but it was like I became immune to it about a month after my surgery and it stopped putting me into a extremely relaxed state. It actually felt like I was pushed off a cliff.
Hemi-Sync is different, it's still working and I would say getting better every single time I use it.
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Post by Shooby on Mar 8, 2013 3:28:51 GMT -5
I hate NSAIDS. They are very hard on the gut. And, not so great for the kidneys either. I don't take them only under rare circumstances. I take aspirin or tylenol or nothing.
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Post by alabamagal on Mar 8, 2013 9:00:46 GMT -5
Well for one thing, chronic users do build up tolerance so when you take them all the time, the effect does lessen. Just like alcohol. Your first beer you were drunk halfway through the first one. Now it is 2, or 3, or 4......
I had Demerol when I had my wisdom teeth taken out. I have a high tolerance, so I was taking them every 3 hours instead of 4. I remember being in my bedroom and watching this new channel called MTV (dating myself here) and they kept showing Michael Jackson's Thriller video. It was really freaky, thought it was the meds, but later realized that was a pretty freaky video.
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Post by bookkeeper on Mar 8, 2013 9:08:53 GMT -5
My mom has severe osteo arthritis. She needs to take steroids from time to time to control the inflammation. At one point, she decided she would treat the disease with pain killers instead of steroids.
She lost two years of her life. She started out with tylenol 3, moved to oxi and then to tramadol. She laid in bed and at one point talked about "heaven pills" hoping they would just take her to heaven. Constipation was extreme and she couldn't hardly walk without someone holding onto her.
I got involved when I went to visit for the weekend and she would only get out of bed for 30 minutes at a time. I hardly saw her all weekend. At that point I had to ask my dad if he was ready for a medical intervention. We had to try to assemble her patient history. She had been doctor shopping to keep getting stronger pain meds. When we did meet with a pain specialist, all she wanted to talk about was a nurse in her hometown that was gone on maternity leave!!
It became clear she could no longer be in charge of her own health care. It took another 6 months and several more doctors before she was an upright person again.
She still uses narcotics for pain management, but on an as needed basis, not every 4 hours like we used to see.
It was shocking to see what narcotic pain meds turned her into in such a short time. My brother described her as a ghost when the over use was at its worst.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 9:10:25 GMT -5
Morphine after a hysterectomy. Made me projectile vomit. I was better off taking extra strength tylenol and sleeping through the pain.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 8, 2013 9:15:49 GMT -5
I've never taken aspirin as a rule because I never had chickenpox as a child or the full vaccine series. Tylenol I might as well be taking M&Ms.
To Dark's earlier point, I know Flexeril is a muscle relaxer. Just stating it is the only thing that will knock me out. Percocet, Vicodin, T3 and Ultram have all failed miserably at one point or another.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 10:02:17 GMT -5
I don't know how people can take them at all. Vicodin and Oxy make me incredibly sick, they sure as hell don't give me a "pleasant" experience. I'd rather be in pain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 10:04:29 GMT -5
I've never taken aspirin as a rule because I never had chickenpox as a child or the full vaccine series. I don't understand the connection.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 10:36:39 GMT -5
I took oxycodone when I got my wisdom teeth out and my "tongue-tie" fixed in high school.... wooooo hoooooo!!!!! I only took them for about 4 days, and I got a really bad headache when I stopped.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 10:49:45 GMT -5
i get crushing headaches.....similar to migraines without the nausea
diagnosed as "cluster headaches"
i have 2 pain prescriptions
fiornal...which is codeine based....this helps 1/2 of the time and takes the 1-10 scale 8 headaches down to a 3 or 4
then i also have percocet....but those i leave at home
i have a 55 mile commute....and the doctor advised me heavily against driving after taking the percocet
when i take the percocet...it works most of the time
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 8, 2013 11:09:59 GMT -5
I've never taken aspirin as a rule because I never had chickenpox as a child or the full vaccine series. I don't understand the connection. Reye's syndrome is associated with taking aspirin with chicken pox. Not a nice thing to get and as far as I know, they have never understood why it happens. If WVU girl get sick and she takes aspirin and it is chicken pox, it puts her at risk.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Mar 8, 2013 11:23:56 GMT -5
Flexeril is why DD and I ended up sleeping on the floor a week ago. DH was out of Hydrocodone and he took 2 flexerils and they cause him to have massive restless legs syndrome. After 30 minutes, I got tired of being kicked and I thought DH was going to smack DD because his arms were twiitching real bad too. So, I took her with me to the living room and we slept on the floor that night. The next day DH's hydrocodone's got refilled and they gave him a new (more expensive) muscle relaxer.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Mar 8, 2013 12:06:15 GMT -5
My mind is as clear as a bell on Percoset and Vicotin, but codine, benadryl, flexeril and many other drugs turn me into a zombie.
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Post by justme on Mar 8, 2013 12:44:08 GMT -5
I was given flexeril and it did nothing for me. My TMJ doctor gave it to me (didn't like that my pervious Dr had given me xanax instead, though xanax was much more effective stopping the clenching) and one day I took it because I had this massive pain my back/neck and it felt like a spasm. Didn't work worth a lick so I thought it was something else, which urgent care then said no it's a muscle spasm you apparently need something stronger. I now have Baclofen which is heaven to stop the spasms, especially since I get no other effect from it which is crazy because it's pretty strong stuff.
No fair to all you guys getting stronger stuff for surgeries I've had (and all you guys who find relief with otc stuff!). Had my tonsils out at 25 and they only gave me vicodin even though other people that had it done at that age got percoset or something else stronger. Even when I called in when I ran out because I need the max dose taken in the least amount of time possible they just called in more vicodin instead of something stronger.
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Post by Queen of Interesting Nuts on Mar 8, 2013 12:50:51 GMT -5
Muttley, the RLS came from the withdrawal of hydrococodone. Is it a pretty common sympton of opiate withdrawal. Not to say the flexaril may not have contributed but RLS from opiate withdrawal is very, very common.
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Post by lurkyloo on Mar 8, 2013 20:37:43 GMT -5
I've never taken aspirin as a rule because I never had chickenpox as a child or the full vaccine series. Tylenol I might as well be taking M&Ms. To Dark's earlier point, I know Flexeril is a muscle relaxer. Just stating it is the only thing that will knock me out. Percocet, Vicodin, T3 and Ultram have all failed miserably at one point or another. I too was aware that flexeril = muscle relaxant, sorry if that wasn't clear. I appreciated that it addressed the actual cause of the pain rather than trying to mask it. I've also used Soma a couple of times with similar effect: effective at treating the back spasm as long as you don't mind being a zombie. MIL offered me Soma to help me sleep over Christmas, and kept pushing me to just take half a tab when I tried to explain that I didn't want to feel worse (I also didn't want a flipper baby but didn't want to get into that discussion...large close loving gossiping families kind of suck sometimes.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 21:22:14 GMT -5
Flexeril knocks me out. Percocet makes me delusional. I get loopy on most meds actually, even OTC stuff, so I generally just avoid.
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Post by Queen of Interesting Nuts on Mar 8, 2013 21:24:19 GMT -5
percocet gives me rashes. I think I am going to try tramadol extended for longer time relief.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 9, 2013 5:32:33 GMT -5
I hate NSAIDS. They are very hard on the gut. And, not so great for the kidneys either. I don't take them only under rare circumstances. I take aspirin or tylenol or nothing. Aspirin IS an NSAID.
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Post by Colleenz on Mar 9, 2013 5:44:01 GMT -5
Flexaril is guaranteed to put me to sleep. I got a scrpm about 5 years ago after a car accident. If I have insomnia one of those puppies knocks me right out. I have been on pain meds with no problem, but have no idea how people function on muscle relaxants.
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Post by Shooby on Mar 9, 2013 8:52:21 GMT -5
Um, i know. I said i take them under rare circumstances. It is rare that i take an aspirin. If i do take an NSAID i usually take that one. Sometimes i will take naproxen. But, i don't care to to take them at all. They don't set will with my stomach.
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