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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2012 11:24:38 GMT -5
Tell your wife she needs to find a good tailor. Buy the clothes to fit the boobs and then tailor in the rest to fit the body. Tailor's cost money. And then you need to buy clothes of good enough quality to be worth tailoring. Wardrobe costs just took a jump.
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Post by justme on Nov 5, 2012 11:34:54 GMT -5
Tell your wife she needs to find a good tailor. Buy the clothes to fit the boobs and then tailor in the rest to fit the body. Tailor's cost money. And then you need to buy clothes of good enough quality to be worth tailoring. Wardrobe costs just took a jump. Of course tailors cost money. If the option is between poorly fitting cheap clothes and spending more money on clothes to fit right and be professional it should be an easy choice if you want to advance your career. Also, you don't need to buy $300 pieces to get tailored, $50/$100 pieces are worth tailoring. And a better bet to buy something that costs $50, tailor it for $20 than spend $300 on a piece that fits right off the rack.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 5, 2012 11:37:53 GMT -5
ummmm - when was the last time you went to a tailor. I don't even think mine will hem pants for twenty bucks anymore. Taking apart a shirt, jacket or dress and putting it back together is going to cost more than $20.
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Post by shanendoah on Nov 5, 2012 11:40:12 GMT -5
I am also a DDD. And I work for a company where the dress code specifically states- no cleavage (business casual). It is possible to dress professionally without showing cleavage, without looking like Amy Farah Fowler, and without your own personal tailor. The key is camisoles with adjustable straps. The adjustable straps let you decide how high or low you want the neckline. For every top I have that would dip just a little too low for the dress code, I have a camisole (or two or three) that can be worn under it to cover the cleavage. Often, I need only an inch or two of the cami showing, but that inch or two matters. And by having one or two different colored camis that can be worn with a top, it can change the look of the top and stretch your wardrobe very inexpensively.
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Post by justme on Nov 5, 2012 11:47:21 GMT -5
ummmm - when was the last time you went to a tailor. I don't even think mine will hem pants for twenty bucks anymore. Taking apart a shirt, jacket or dress and putting it back together is going to cost more than $20. My mom and she lives in a LCOL. I should have realized that when I posted. But my point still stands, if you want to look professional sometimes you have to spend money if stuff of the rack doesn't fit you right.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 5, 2012 11:50:13 GMT -5
I agree that sometimes you have to pay more because of your shape. I pay extra for extra long pants, and then they come too long and I have to hem them. And it is a pain in the neck to find a tailor you trust and get everything re-fit for you. But, sometimes you do what ya gotta do.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 5, 2012 12:08:43 GMT -5
Better to have a dozen outfits that fit you right and you don't look like a hussy in them that two dozen that you do in. Yes, tailoring is spendy but as the hosts of WHAT NOT TO WEAR will tell you, dress for the body you have, not the one you want.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Nov 5, 2012 12:10:13 GMT -5
I'm in the same boat with Shanendoah. Large chest; and cleavage is always covered w/ a camisole or other layering piece. TV may show professional women with cleavage but in the real world, I think it's unacceptable. It's not difficult to compile a nice looking wardrobe which fits correctly. I've read if button down shirts are gaping then one should buy the next size up. Also, blazers are a large chested gal's best friend. They camouflage any problem areas.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Nov 5, 2012 12:17:33 GMT -5
There is a difference between dressing to be attractive and dressing sexy. I tend to err on the side of too conservative when I'm being professional. But, if a guy noted that she was showing too much, and thought it was too much - then it was too much. I never want to leave a business meeting and have two of the guys talk about my boobs. Never. Just as if it would be an epic fail if any man left the room and two women noted that his pants were so tight we now know how big his package is. Several years ago, I didn't notice my seat belt had taken the opportunity that morning to undo a blouse button at brassiere level. I ran into one of my competitor's CSRs (Customer Service Reps) in the hallway. She pointed it out and asked: "Is that how you sell insurance?" I was mortified.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 5, 2012 12:20:47 GMT -5
What a bitchy thing to say.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Nov 5, 2012 12:25:12 GMT -5
What a bitchy thing to say. Yeah, she was old, envious and retired now.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Nov 5, 2012 12:46:45 GMT -5
I don't know, dealing with breasts isn't something I have experience with. But I agree that the goal should be to look professional and not "sexy" at least if that's your goal. And I don't think looking attractive and looking sexy is the same thing.
I would say minimal cleavage, not much more than an inch or so in a professional setting.
It's kind of hard to say if it was unprofessional or not without seeing the person in question.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 5, 2012 12:53:46 GMT -5
If someone is commenting about your cleavage, you have a problem. If someone is commenting you have big boobs, they have a problem.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Nov 5, 2012 12:55:57 GMT -5
If someone is commenting about your cleavage, you have a problem. If someone is commenting you have big boobs, they have a problem. Well said, zib!
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Post by shanendoah on Nov 5, 2012 13:05:07 GMT -5
I'll also say, there's something to be said for the right bra for the outfit, too. Since I'm fat, I can buy bras that fit correctly in fat lady stores (and Nordstroms). Some bras increase cleavage, some bras eliminate it. Different tops look better with different kind of bras. But when I plan my outfits, that includes planning which bra I'm going to wear. The same top can be both professionally appropriate or perfect for the poker game where I want to distract the guys depending on which bra I wear.
I hope one day to be able to find a tailor I really like (or to convince my friend who sews that she should let me pay her to be my tailor), but in the meantime, camisoles and bra choice keep my work clothes work appropriate.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Nov 5, 2012 13:12:13 GMT -5
They also have these things that hook onto a woman's bra straps to look like they are wearing a camisole. they also have bras that have something across the top so it looks like you're wearing a camisole. If those things actually work, then there is really no excuse for a woman to be showing her assets.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 5, 2012 13:20:22 GMT -5
Why would you want to? In a professional setting anyway unless you are in the worlds oldest profession.
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 5, 2012 13:25:01 GMT -5
Why would you want to? In a professional setting anyway unless you are in the worlds oldest profession. Not that you SHOULD, but in regards to WHY...you might want to in order to hypnotize the men. Attractive people of both genders tend to go further, and given men's visual nature, it's not crazy to think that showing some skin might help you get your way.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Nov 5, 2012 13:28:08 GMT -5
Why would you want to? In a professional setting anyway unless you are in the worlds oldest profession. Not that you SHOULD, but in regards to WHY...you might want to in order to hypnotize the men. Attractive people of both genders tend to go further, and given men's visual nature, it's not crazy to think that showing some skin might help you get your way. Yes and no. As we stated, attractiveness isn't the same as "being sexy." And from my experience, truly good looking people look good no matter how they dress. Even if an attractive woman can "hypnotize men." It can backfire because you'll be perceived as an object of affection rather than competent or a leader. Just because someone is attracted to you doesn't mean they'll want you to manage their company.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Nov 5, 2012 13:33:23 GMT -5
Not that you SHOULD, but in regards to WHY...you might want to in order to hypnotize the men. Attractive people of both genders tend to go further, and given men's visual nature, it's not crazy to think that showing some skin might help you get your way. Yes and no. As we stated, attractiveness isn't the same as "being sexy." And from my experience, truly good looking people look good no matter how they dress. Agreed. In almost every sales book and article I read, it mentions how we should take care of ourselves, in looks, dress, etc. Besides, being fit gives us energy to go out and kick ass. ;D
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 5, 2012 13:48:50 GMT -5
::And from my experience, truly good looking people look good no matter how they dress. ::
Yeah, but there aren't a lot of "truly good looking people" out there. So if it comes down to being "the ugly girl" or "that girl with the great chest"...I can see why some women might opt for the latter.
::Even if an attractive woman can "hypnotize men." It can backfire because you'll be perceived as an object of affection rather than competent or a leader.::
We're talking about showing a little cleavage though, not wearing a belt as a skirt. With the way people dress today, showing a little cleavage is rather passe. This isn't the 1960's.
::Just because someone is attracted to you doesn't mean they'll want you to manage their company. ::
I agree, it doesn't. You still generally have to be decent at your job. But all else equal, it's usually the more attractive person who does better.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 5, 2012 13:52:30 GMT -5
I used to work for a pharmaceutical company. Everyone at my current job assumed I was a sales rep. I finally figured out why.
That being said I try to dress professionally for work, nothing too low, too tight, stripper heels and so on.
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 5, 2012 13:55:09 GMT -5
::I used to work for a pharmaceutical company. Everyone at my current job assumed I was a sales rep. I finally figured out why. ::
My wife's cousin is in pharmaceutical sales. My wife was always talking about how she was the #1 salesperson at the company and kept getting trips, etc. Once you meet her it's not hard to figure out why, nobody is going to say no to this woman. Yes she's smart, she knows what's she's doing, etc...but she's also ridiculously attractive.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 5, 2012 14:01:46 GMT -5
My coworker has a tax business on the side. He does this one woman's return and I think she's actually in device sales. She does very well for herself but she's bored.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 5, 2012 14:33:41 GMT -5
I used to work for a pharmaceutical company. Everyone at my current job assumed I was a sales rep. I finally figured out why. . The drawer full of allergy drugs you keep on hand?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 5, 2012 14:35:11 GMT -5
Deleted, double post.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 5, 2012 14:35:11 GMT -5
I used to work for a pharmaceutical company. Everyone at my current job assumed I was a sales rep. I finally figured out why. . The drawer full of allergy drugs you keep on hand? I wasn't on all the drugs when I started here
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Post by Tiny on Nov 5, 2012 14:58:18 GMT -5
A woman doesn't have to have big boobs to show 'cleavage'. One of the managers in my office wears clothing with v necks that shows you all the skin between her boobs. There's no 'crevice' of cleavage - it's an open plain. She dresses nicely in properly fitting clothes and accessories - it's just the plunging necklines that seem out of place - since most women (even the flatter chested ones) tend to wear clothing that covers the skin/crevice between their boobs. When I first met the manager with the plunging neckline - my first thought was 'wow, the boys will dissappointed that they can't try to shoot an icecube, gum wrapper, or whatever down her exposed 'cleavage' there's no place for the missile to go but down to the floor. Having Vast Tracts of Land is highly overrated... If I was young now - I'd be trading in my Vast Tracts of Land for something smaller and sportier....
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Post by Tiny on Nov 5, 2012 15:01:16 GMT -5
Ah, just remembered the name - there's an online store Pepperberry for well endowed women (who are not plussed sized in other areas).
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 5, 2012 15:57:04 GMT -5
Both. Her for showing it enough to make it a topic of conversation. Them for taking it further.
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