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Oct 29, 2012 19:28:00 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 19:28:00 GMT -5
Shoot the bastards.
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Oct 29, 2012 19:31:33 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 19:31:33 GMT -5
Shoot the bastards and take back the tv. That could be the motto. I like it, can we get buttons and posters made quickly?
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Oct 29, 2012 19:35:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 19:35:18 GMT -5
democrats are no fun.
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Oct 29, 2012 19:42:33 GMT -5
Post by Tiny on Oct 29, 2012 19:42:33 GMT -5
Or can we make the looters wear black hats and the non looters wear white hats? That would solve the problem of anyone being mistakenly or accidentally shot. Just saying.
Or maybe we need a "opps, a potentially innocent bystander got killed their family can't sue/get justice because it was an emergency situation' law.
I'm wondering: if you are ok with laws allowing suspicious looking people to be shot/killed... are you OK with a family member or friend being killed in this way? Will you clamor for 'justice' or will you just say "aw, s/he was a piece o' crap - good thing s/he's dead" and let it go. Just wondering...
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Oct 29, 2012 19:53:18 GMT -5
Post by Tiny on Oct 29, 2012 19:53:18 GMT -5
I'm glad all of your family members practice good judgement all the time (atleast all the times you know of).
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Oct 29, 2012 19:58:08 GMT -5
Post by Sum Dum Gai on Oct 29, 2012 19:58:08 GMT -5
What about the guy running down the street holding a jug of water? Looter or avid health nut? Who's to say. Shoot him and let god sort it out?
And why do they always loot electronics? The things are dirt cheap these days, they're big, conspicuous, heavy, likely to get fucked up from the rain anyway. Makes no damn sense. You'd be better off ripping off a pharmacy. Pills are light, easy to conceal, and pound for pound worth a ton more if you know which ones to grab. For that matter, steal video games from the electronics store, not TV's. Again, pound for pound worth a lot more, easier to carry and conceal, and a much better secondary market if you're just looking to flip them for profit.
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Oct 29, 2012 20:04:27 GMT -5
Post by Nazgul Girl on Oct 29, 2012 20:04:27 GMT -5
I would personally choose to loot the gold exchanges, the gun shops, a couple of luxury car dealerships, and the pharmacy ( yes that's a good idea, Dark ). Of course, you don't see too many 60 year old women with silver hair breaking into gun shops, so I might be a trendsetter. As far as being shot while committing my crimes, it would depend on whether I had already gotten some guns and ammo at the gun shop I was going to loot. You have to have a plan with levels of looting priority.
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Oct 29, 2012 20:05:22 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 20:05:22 GMT -5
What about the guy running down the street holding a jug of water? Looter or avid health nut? Who's to say. Shoot him and let god sort it out? And why do they always loot electronics? The things are dirt cheap these days, they're big, conspicuous, heavy, likely to get fucked up from the rain anyway. Makes no damn sense. You'd be better off ripping off a pharmacy. Pills are light, easy to conceal, and pound for pound worth a ton more if you know which ones to grab. For that matter, steal video games from the electronics store, not TV's. Again, pound for pound worth a lot more, easier to carry and conceal, and a much better secondary market if you're just looking to flip them for profit. I've seen guys grab purses and run, its not all about electronics dude.
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Oct 29, 2012 20:07:50 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 20:07:50 GMT -5
OMG I just said dude. Too many Aston Kutcher movies me thinks...
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Oct 29, 2012 20:08:28 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 20:08:28 GMT -5
I like it, can we get buttons and posters made quickly? LMAO
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Oct 29, 2012 20:09:19 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 20:09:19 GMT -5
I like. My TV certainly has much more value than most people out there. Not if I could only find a way to make sure my neighbor's kid is the one that takes my TV.
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Oct 29, 2012 20:14:25 GMT -5
Post by susanb on Oct 29, 2012 20:14:25 GMT -5
I would rather live with replacing my TV than with having killed someone.
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Oct 29, 2012 20:20:58 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 20:20:58 GMT -5
I live with replacing my TV than with having killed someone. Depends on the tv.
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Oct 29, 2012 20:29:26 GMT -5
Post by InsertCoolName on Oct 29, 2012 20:29:26 GMT -5
Hey I think the people that said this storm wasn't going to be that big of deal shouldn't get to be rescued after they realize that they can't handle a shit ton of fucking water where it shouldn't be. I was told I wasn't being nice. Yeah no shit. Thanks for pointing that out. So not sure here, but shooting people probably falls under the not nice line as well.
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Oct 29, 2012 20:36:22 GMT -5
Post by Peace Of Mind on Oct 29, 2012 20:36:22 GMT -5
I live with replacing my TV than with having killed someone. Depends on the tv. People who are so desperate to loot or steal won't care about what the laws are in most cases since there are usually drug addictions involved. Not always, but in many cases.
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Oct 29, 2012 20:37:42 GMT -5
Post by midjd on Oct 29, 2012 20:37:42 GMT -5
I am generally not in favor of the shoot-first-ask-later type of policies.
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Oct 29, 2012 21:10:32 GMT -5
Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Oct 29, 2012 21:10:32 GMT -5
I am generally not in favor of the shoot-first-ask-later type of policies. Mid, as a lawyer, you are just asking for them to turn this into a Shakespeare thread.
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Oct 29, 2012 21:44:42 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 21:44:42 GMT -5
I live with replacing my TV than with having killed someone. Depends on the tv. And the someone.
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Oct 30, 2012 10:17:39 GMT -5
Post by zibazinski on Oct 30, 2012 10:17:39 GMT -5
I'm hoping that people will behave better than they do in the south when this happens. . But if they choose not to, well, that's what being armed is for. I have no issue with replacing a tv, either, but would feel that I'm doing the community as a whole a favor by removing an anti-social person from the planet.
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Oct 30, 2012 10:50:34 GMT -5
Post by milee on Oct 30, 2012 10:50:34 GMT -5
Anybody who wants it badly enough to cart it away is welcome to my TV. I like it, but not remotely enough to shoot someone over. Actually, can't think of anything I own that's worth shooting someone for.
On the other hand, if you're sitting in the dark after a hurricane with no electricity or phone service, you may be understandably nervous. If someone breaks into the house, it's understandable that you might not take the time to figure out if they just want your TV (in which case, you wouldn't have shot them) or is there to hurt you or your family (in which case, you might want to go ahead and shoot.)
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Oct 30, 2012 11:02:32 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 11:02:32 GMT -5
Death is the best payback.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:04:08 GMT -5
Post by milee on Oct 30, 2012 11:04:08 GMT -5
You're misunderstanding my point. I'm not pro "scum", I'm anti the "grief and guilt shooting another human being" would cause me.
I don't like thieves and think looting is despicable, but to kill someone for it? No way. Not even remotely tempting. I'd rather every single looter get away with it than deal with the debt to my soul that killing a person would cause.
Is your TV - or anyone's TV - really worth that level of response? Really? I'm getting the sense that you think it is.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:09:49 GMT -5
Post by milee on Oct 30, 2012 11:09:49 GMT -5
I could get on board with the whole caning idea.
Anybody else remember when Clinton got involved pleading for (think it was) Singapore to spare that American kid from caning? The worst part was that when you read what he had done - bunch of vandalism - caning didn't seem like a bad idea for the kid...
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Oct 30, 2012 11:31:19 GMT -5
Post by milee on Oct 30, 2012 11:31:19 GMT -5
Yes, a store could definitely go bankrupt if its entire inventory was looted or destroyed. Theft coverage is very expensive, so not every store has it. Not only that, but I can see the insurers possibly arguing that unless there's video evidence that the destruction was caused by looting, who is to say the damage wasn't storm related? And storm coverage (wind and flood) are separate and their own policies. So yes, looting could cause a business to go BK.
As for the idea that caning or cutting off a hand is less barbaric than what we have now, I agree. Count me on the caning side, though, since I think permanently maiming someone by cutting off a hand is counterproductive in that you're hurting their chances of being able to work and earn a living in the future. Caning would embarrass them and sting, but not in most cases, even cause scarring, so you could give a lesson that they'd be able to recover from should they choose.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:42:23 GMT -5
Post by milee on Oct 30, 2012 11:42:23 GMT -5
I can't speak for anybody but myself, but I don't think protecting a physical asset (even one as serious as an entire business) is worth human life. While it would be awful to have to rebuild my business or be poor forever, I don't think I could kill someone to prevent that happening. Now if I were a good enough shot to get 'em in the kneecap, that would be a different story.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:45:27 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 11:45:27 GMT -5
Shoot them.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:47:53 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 11:47:53 GMT -5
human life is so overrated. people are generally scumbags, present company included. Losing a few is no big deal.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:48:11 GMT -5
Post by Abby Normal on Oct 30, 2012 11:48:11 GMT -5
You're misunderstanding my point. I'm not pro "scum", I'm anti the "grief and guilt shooting another human being" would cause me. I don't like thieves and think looting is despicable, but to kill someone for it? No way. Not even remotely tempting. I'd rather every single looter get away with it than deal with the debt to my soul that killing a person would cause. Is your TV - or anyone's TV - really worth that level of response? Really? I'm getting the sense that you think it is. Worth that level of response? Probably not. But the "I'd rather loose the TV than hurt someone" philosophy is exactly what keeps people doing it. They have no fear of consequence.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:48:32 GMT -5
Post by midjd on Oct 30, 2012 11:48:32 GMT -5
I agree. Even looters usually have families who would suffer a lot of heartbreak if they died.
Not to mention - even when people go through the legal system, there are a fair number of wrongful convictions. What makes us think that vigilante justice won't also claim a lot of innocent victims? What if the person breaking into the drugstore is trying to get insulin for an ailing relative? What if the looter is suffering from mental illness and doesn't realize the harm of his or her actions? What if you shoot to wound but the person has a heart condition or clotting disorder and ends up dying?
I just think there are too many potential downsides to ever justify a policy of shooting looters on sight.
I could also see such a policy being used by some less scrupulous people as an excuse to kill people they don't like. Not hard to break a window, plant a TV in someone's arms and say "I had to do it!"
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Oct 30, 2012 11:49:28 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 11:49:28 GMT -5
human life is so overrated. people are generally scumbags, present company included. Losing a few is no big deal. Looters are losers that have no respect for society or its laws. I have no problem with shooting them. Perhaps aim low though.
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