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Post by tea4me on Feb 1, 2011 9:39:57 GMT -5
Last night I was having this discussion with my BF. Who is smarter? 1) a woman that works as little as possible and lets a man support her 2) a woman that works 60+ hours a week and is financially independent
I think the woman that does not have to work much is smarter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 9:40:55 GMT -5
The woman that gets in the kitchen and makes me a pie is the smart woman.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 1, 2011 9:45:49 GMT -5
The smart one os one that can do the other if she needs to!!!
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Post by Befferz on Feb 1, 2011 9:49:36 GMT -5
Last night I was having this discussion with my BF. Who is smarter? 1) a woman that works as little as possible and lets a man support her 2) a woman that works 60+ hours a week and is financially independent I think the woman that does not have to work much is smarter. But your answer isn't one of the choices you listed...
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Post by tea4me on Feb 1, 2011 9:56:52 GMT -5
The woman that works as little as possible and let a man support her is smarter.
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Post by imawino on Feb 1, 2011 10:03:55 GMT -5
::The woman that works as little as possible and let a man support her is smarter. ::
It's nice that you gave up the pretense of it being a question so quickly and just went with telling all the women here who choose to work for a living that they are stupid.
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Post by tea4me on Feb 1, 2011 10:06:12 GMT -5
"It's nice that you gave up the pretense of it being a question so quickly and just went with telling all the women here who choose to work for a living that they are stupid. "
WTF Ever! I am the one that works 60+ hours a week. I think women that don't have to work much and let a man support them are smart because they have a lot more free time.
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Post by lisabelle on Feb 1, 2011 10:06:54 GMT -5
LB bis....i karmalize you!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 1, 2011 10:07:57 GMT -5
Who is smarter? 1) a woman that works as little as possible and lets a man support her 2) a woman that works 60+ hours a week and is financially independent
I'd answer your question with another one. Which woman is more likely to be financially secure?
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Post by imawino on Feb 1, 2011 10:11:33 GMT -5
Wow, you're touchy!! I just think it's kind of lame to ask a "question" for the sole purpose of being able to declare the answer. Also, the woman who "doesn't have to work" isn't necessarily the same thing as a woman who doesn't work. Quit working already, it makes you grouchy.
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Post by imawino on Feb 1, 2011 10:12:31 GMT -5
Thanks, LB!
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Post by Befferz on Feb 1, 2011 10:19:04 GMT -5
Wow, you're touchy!! I just think it's kind of lame to ask a "question" for the sole purpose of being able to declare the answer. Also, the woman who "doesn't have to work" isn't necessarily the same thing as a woman who doesn't work. Quit working already, it makes you grouchy. That was my point. Besides, maybe the woman who works 60+ hours loves her job? And what if something happens to the man supporting the other woman, and suddenly he can't (or won't) support her any more? Too many variables to answer.
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Post by tea4me on Feb 1, 2011 10:24:20 GMT -5
But isn't the woman that does not have to work much fortunate?
Lately there are some marriages breaking up because the woman found another man. There is a big age difference for one of them and I feel the woman knows what she is doing because now she will have financial help. Another woman I know does not have the money problems she had when she was married because of her new situation.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer to be financially independent. I just consider them lucky.
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Post by imawino on Feb 1, 2011 10:24:44 GMT -5
::And what if something happens to the man supporting the other woman, and suddenly he can't (or won't) support her any more? ::
hey Befferz. yeah, I got what you were saying before. I have known lots of women who were happy SAHMs, until the marriage broke up, they realized they had no marketable skills and their ex-husbands income wasn't enough to support two households in the lifestyle to which they had become accustomed. The smartest woman is the one that chooses what's right for her obviously. For me, I could not deal with the stress of being dependent on someone else.
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Post by Befferz on Feb 1, 2011 10:27:40 GMT -5
But isn't the woman that does not have to work much fortunate? Lately there are some marriages breaking up because the woman found another man. There is a big age difference for one of them and I feel the woman knows what she is doing because now she will have financial help. Another woman I know does not have the money problems she had when she was married because of her new situation. Don't get me wrong, I prefer to be financially independent. I just consider them lucky. So you're saying that women should their husbands if someone richer comes along? That's the smarter thing to do?
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 1, 2011 10:31:23 GMT -5
I'll take woman #2 over woman #1 any day. Smarter because she can take care of herself under any circumstances. When the man in her life leaves her or dies, what's next? If she's worked as little as possible, and left it all up to him, not only has she been "out of the loop" in terms of keeping up with any professional advances, she may be unable to deal with the closer-to-home stuff, like house repairs, financial decisions, etc.
I've said this before, as others have: the fiction of the knight on a white horse is fiction. No one is coming to our rescue, ladies. We must take care of ourselves.
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Post by Befferz on Feb 1, 2011 10:32:02 GMT -5
::And what if something happens to the man supporting the other woman, and suddenly he can't (or won't) support her any more? :: hey Befferz. yeah, I got what you were saying before. I have known lots of women who were happy SAHMs, until the marriage broke up, they realized they had no marketable skills and their ex-husbands income wasn't enough to support two households in the lifestyle to which they had become accustomed. The smartest woman is the one that chooses what's right for her obviously. For me, I could not deal with the stress of being dependent on someone else. Exactly--I was just adding my .02 along with yours. Would I like to be able to be a SAHM? Sure, if the right situation came along. But I would also never expect that to last indefinitely. In fact, I'd more expect that I wouldn't be able to be a SAHM, and that would be (mostly) fine with me. Like you said, the smarter woman is the one who does what's best for her, long and short term.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 1, 2011 10:35:02 GMT -5
Lucky, maybe.
But luck needs a backup plan. Because as they say in Vegas, the house always wins.
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Post by lisabelle on Feb 1, 2011 10:38:30 GMT -5
I have a BF that is a SAHM and everytime her or her kids need something she hates to ask for money. I have always worked and been independent. I like knowing I don't have to depend on someone else financially for my wants/needs. I will never be stuck. Therefore, I think I'm smarter.
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Post by tea4me on Feb 1, 2011 10:41:04 GMT -5
"So you're saying that women should their husbands if someone richer comes along? That's the smarter thing to do?"
Yes - If it will make the woman happier.
OT - How do you get the quotes in boxes?
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Post by Befferz on Feb 1, 2011 10:46:27 GMT -5
"So you're saying that women should their husbands if someone richer comes along? That's the smarter thing to do?" Yes - If it will make the woman happier. OT - How do you get the quotes in boxes? So rich = happy in your mind? To get the quote in boxes, click on the "quote" button at the upper right of the message you want to quote.
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Post by The J on Feb 1, 2011 10:49:12 GMT -5
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Post by kkyle on Feb 1, 2011 10:53:48 GMT -5
Who is smarter? 1) a woman that works as little as possible and lets a man support her 2) a woman that works 60+ hours a week and is financially independentI'd answer your question with another one. Which woman is more likely to be financially secure? I would prefer to be the woman who is financially secure.....
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 1, 2011 10:54:36 GMT -5
That would apply to me as well. I could not stand to ask my husband for money for my own personal needs. I think of buying those things as my responsibility, not his.
And it's an issue of personal pride. I am capable of contributing to society and earning my place in it, why wouldn't I do so?
Would it be nice to not work? I cannot picture that as an option, since I've been working part-time since age 16, and full-time since age 21. If I had enough money to meet all my needs for all my expected remaining lifetime, would I stop working? Probably not, mainly because I know life can always throw out an emergency (or two, or three) that requires cash.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 1, 2011 10:55:44 GMT -5
J, you DID bring enough for everyone, right? Plus some chocolate?
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Post by tea4me on Feb 1, 2011 10:56:26 GMT -5
[ So rich = happy in your mind? To get the quote in boxes, click on the "quote" button at the upper right of the message you want to quote.[/quote] Rich = Happy for some people. Not for me. I just want to be "content" and I have felt that way since early adulthood. I am content so I am happy. I just get tired from working a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 10:57:42 GMT -5
My brother is freaking smart. His girlfriend works while he stays home and goes kayaking or hiking.
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Post by Befferz on Feb 1, 2011 11:02:24 GMT -5
[ So rich = happy in your mind? To get the quote in boxes, click on the "quote" button at the upper right of the message you want to quote. Rich = Happy for some people. Not for me. I just want to be "content" and I have felt that way since early adulthood. I am content so I am happy. I just get tired from working a lot. [/quote] But if a rich man came along who would and could support you so that you wouldn't have to work, would you leave your BF for the rich guy? Apparently that would be the smart choice...
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Post by The J on Feb 1, 2011 11:03:50 GMT -5
J, you DID bring enough for everyone, right? Plus some chocolate? And yes, there's plenty of popcorn
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Post by lisabelle on Feb 1, 2011 11:05:51 GMT -5
Surprised you didn't show up w/a kiddie pool filled with jello J
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