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Post by chiver78 on Feb 1, 2012 15:23:19 GMT -5
SGK can fund or de-fund any organization they want. and many of us are free to choose to direct our charitable donations elsewhere. fwiw, I've never contributed to SGK - I've felt for a long time that they were more focused on the business of their business, as nancy said, instead of their purpose. this just means I'll have more reason NOT to support this organization.
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Post by Taxman10 on Feb 1, 2012 15:24:14 GMT -5
I should not have to add this, but not getting mammograms increases the rist of breast cancer as well. www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/testing/types/mammograms/benefits_risks.jspThere are a number of factors that can factor into a woman's chances: smoking, weight, alcohol use, having children after a certain age, family history. What Komen did was remove a tool for diagnosing the issue for any woman, whether they've had abortions or not. Not everyone, not even the majority of women, use PP for the abortion services. www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/planned-parenthood-glance-5552.htm Only three percent of the five million people who have used PP services have used it for abortion-related purposes. The abortion issue should not have been a factor in the decision. LOL, so the baby-killing organization says that only 3% of it's "customers" come in for baby-killing??? In other news ExxonMobil announced today that only 3% of its customers buy oil-related products....
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Post by Taxman10 on Feb 1, 2012 15:25:05 GMT -5
SGK can fund or de-fund any organization they want. and many of us are free to choose to direct our charitable donations elsewhere. fwiw, I've never contributed to SGK - I've felt for a long time that they were more focused on the business of their business, as nancy said, instead of their purpose. this just means I'll have more reason NOT to support this organization. I'm sure SGK will miss the contributions that you weren't going to give.....
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 1, 2012 15:25:11 GMT -5
""and many of us are free to choose to direct our charitable donations elsewhere. "" Excactly....pro-abortion people will cut their donations and those of us who are pro-life will either increase or make a donation...since studies have shown that republicans have a higher % of donations and republicans are much more likely to be pro-life, I think SGK will survive
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 15:27:18 GMT -5
"You're right. Being poor sucks. We bitch about the cost of Medicaid and welfare, so we have a program that pays for mammograms for poor women without the government chipping in. Now it goes away. So much for that argument that if we take away welfare, private organizations will take over...... " I'm not sure I understand why everyone is so upset...this is a private organization who is choosing to direct their monies elsewhere....they have no obligation to fund Planned Parenthood or any other organization. My guess is they will still fund mammograms for the poor, just not through Planned Parenthood. I'm ok with that. but what other organization does them besides PP? I'm currently looking for other organizations that offer the same things PP offers without offering abortions.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 1, 2012 15:27:18 GMT -5
and many of us are free to choose to direct our charitable donations elsewhere. fwiw, I've never contributed to SGK - I've felt for a long time that they were more focused on the business of their business, as nancy said, instead of their purpose. this just means I'll have more reason NOT to support this organization. I'm sure SGK will miss the contributions that you weren't going to give..... there are plenty of people out there, including swamp in here, that will donate elsewhere. I actually just put in donation to PP today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 15:28:43 GMT -5
Because some Planned Parenthood Clinics perform abortions, lets let poor women not get mammograms. Nice thinking there, asswipes. Not necessarily. They will find another service provider. Planned Parenthood are not the only group that perform breast exams. Sorry folks, but I don't think people that oppose abortion should have to support it in any way. Especially financially. I don't necessarily think they should be able to make it illegal. But they should not be forced to have their money support it, either through donations or taxes.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 1, 2012 15:29:56 GMT -5
""and many of us are free to choose to direct our charitable donations elsewhere. "" Excactly....pro-abortion people will cut their donations and those of us who are pro-life will either increase or make a donation...since studies have shown that republicans have a higher % of donations and republicans are much more likely to be pro-life, I think SGK will survive I am not "pro-abortion". I don't know anyone who is "pro-abortion". I am pro-choice, and want to ensure that options are available to women of all income levels to make an educated choice as to their own reproductive health. PP serves that purpose, as well as providing myriad other health services, to lower income women.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 1, 2012 15:30:01 GMT -5
"Sorry folks, but I don't think people that oppose abortion should have to support it in any way" What the hell is this world coming too.....I agree with Later again.....I NEED AN INTERVENTION
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Post by Taxman10 on Feb 1, 2012 15:30:02 GMT -5
I'm sure SGK will miss the contributions that you weren't going to give..... there are plenty of people out there, including swamp in here, that will donate elsewhere. I actually just put in donation to PP today. See the system is working already. It's better if you fund the baby-killing organization directly rather than funneling it through SGK anyway. That way more money will go to the baby-killing organization of your choice. Really it's a win-win....so why again are you pissed about it???
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 1, 2012 15:30:28 GMT -5
Before the local race for the cure, they had this commercial running on local TV, going on and on about how "up to 75% fo the money rasied locally stays local." Double talk if ever I heard it. "Up to 75%" can mean as little as 1% or up to 74.9%. Donors have no way of knowing the truth about where their money goes.
No, you obviously cannot read. "Abortion services" means that's what the clients came in for; it does not mean that all who came in for those services had an abortion. They may have come in for one, but changed their minds. They may have come in for information only.
And stop putting words in my mouth. I am a literate and intelligent individual, quite capable of expressing my own thoughts, without help from you or anyone else.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 1, 2012 15:30:45 GMT -5
did I say I was pissed?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 15:31:00 GMT -5
like swamp said, I don't remember SGK taking a stance on abortion until now. Looks like too many big donors threatened to withhold their donations. Don't assume they're actually pro-life. People/organization will be a lot of things for the right price.
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Post by TD2K on Feb 1, 2012 15:31:05 GMT -5
MU was at the last Walk for the Cure
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Post by Taxman10 on Feb 1, 2012 15:31:11 GMT -5
""and many of us are free to choose to direct our charitable donations elsewhere. "" Excactly....pro-abortion people will cut their donations and those of us who are pro-life will either increase or make a donation...since studies have shown that republicans have a higher % of donations and republicans are much more likely to be pro-life, I think SGK will survive I am not "pro-abortion". I don't know anyone who is "pro-abortion". I am pro-choice, and want to ensure that options are available to women of all income levels to make an educated choice as to their own reproductive health. PP serves that purpose, as well as providing myriad other health services, to lower income women. what choice does the baby that you just killed get??
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Post by TD2K on Feb 1, 2012 15:32:04 GMT -5
"Sorry folks, but I don't think people that oppose abortion should have to support it in any way" What the hell is this world coming too.....I agree with Later again.....I NEED AN INTERVENTION < SLAP > Sorry, but it was for your own good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 15:32:23 GMT -5
I'm also pro-choice, and I don't appreciate being called a baby-killer or pro-abortion. You don't have to agree, but you don't have to go for the shock value either.
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Post by 973beachbum on Feb 1, 2012 15:32:37 GMT -5
well SGK probably knew that women who have abortions have an increased risk of breast cancer. So they made the rational decision to stop funding abortions, and thereby lowering the risk of breast cancer. I'm shocked that all these women get up in arms when the chance of breast cancer is reduced?? If someone told me that smoking lead to higher risk of lung cancer, I'd stop smoking. :-) You are aware that not every Planned Parenthood Clinic provides abortion services, and the vast majority of their services provided are gynecological check ups, STD treatment, and birth control? I've been to a Planned Parenthood, and nobody forced me to have an abortion, or even mentioned it. I went to a planned parenthood and wasn't even aware if they had an affiliate that preformed them. It was basically just a Dr's office that would let you pay based on a sliding scale. Why would a fiscal concervative not want me to get a yearly pap and birth control?
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Post by TD2K on Feb 1, 2012 15:32:49 GMT -5
I wanna see Taxman wake up pregnant one day
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 1, 2012 15:33:03 GMT -5
"like swamp said, I don't remember SGK taking a stance on abortion until now. Looks like too many big donors threatened to withhold their donations. Don't assume they're actually pro-life. People/organization will be a lot of things for the right price. "
they listende to their donors, like they should be
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Post by Taxman10 on Feb 1, 2012 15:34:00 GMT -5
Before the local race for the cure, they had this commercial running on local TV, going on and on about how "up to 75% fo the money rasied locally stays local." Double talk if ever I heard it. "Up to 75%" can mean as little as 1% or up to 74.9%. Donors have no way of knowing the truth about where their money goes. No, you obviously cannot read. "Abortion services" means that's what the clients came in for; it does not mean that all who came in for those services had an abortion. They may have come in for one, but changed their minds. They may have come in for information only. And stop putting words in my mouth. I am a literate and intelligent individual, quite capable of expressing my own thoughts, without help from you or anyone else. LOL - don't worry, even I wouldn't put things in your mouth. OIC - so what do you estimate? 1% had their babies killed and 2% just picked up the pamphlets??
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 1, 2012 15:34:02 GMT -5
"Why would a fiscal concervative not want me to get a yearly pap and birth control? "
I don't....I have a problem with abortion services....it's legal but I dont' want my taxes or donations paying for them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 15:34:37 GMT -5
"like swamp said, I don't remember SGK taking a stance on abortion until now. Looks like too many big donors threatened to withhold their donations. Don't assume they're actually pro-life. People/organization will be a lot of things for the right price. " they listende to their donors, like they should be so if their big donors thought that NAMBLA was the best thing since sliced bread, they should promote pedophilia?
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 1, 2012 15:35:26 GMT -5
I wanna see Taxman wake up pregnant one day right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 15:35:30 GMT -5
"Sorry folks, but I don't think people that oppose abortion should have to support it in any way" What the hell is this world coming too.....I agree with Later again.....I NEED AN INTERVENTION Isn't that like twice this year???
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Post by TD2K on Feb 1, 2012 15:35:38 GMT -5
so if their big donors thought that NAMBLA was the best thing since sliced bread, they should promote pedophilia? K for you
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 1, 2012 15:35:54 GMT -5
Contact Planned Parenthood and ask. They are known for being above-board when it comes to answering statistical questions like that. I could care less what the percentages are. My abortion stance is not the issue here and none of anyone's business.
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Post by kittensaver on Feb 1, 2012 15:36:10 GMT -5
like swamp said, I don't remember SGK taking a stance on abortion until now. Looks like too many big donors threatened to withhold their donations. Don't assume they're actually pro-life. People/organization will be a lot of things for the right price. EXACTLY! If Koman is or ever was "pro-life," then why did they fund PP for so many years??? This reminds me of the scene in Casablanca where the chief of police comes into Rick's bar and announces that he's "shocked, just shocked!!" that gambling is going on in a place that he frequents (and then he pays off the roulette dealer for his bet before he closes down the place).
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 1, 2012 15:36:48 GMT -5
so if their big donors thought that NAMBLA was the best thing since sliced bread, they should promote pedophilia?
That's illegal...it's not illegal to choose to not support an organization that funds abortions.
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Post by Taxman10 on Feb 1, 2012 15:37:17 GMT -5
Contact Planned Parenthood and ask. They are known for being above-board when it comes to answering statistical questions like that. I could care less what the percentages are. My abortion stance is not the issue here and none of anyone's business. I just called my local PP office - they told me that 50% of all customers killed their babies. Unbelievable!
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