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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 12:57:21 GMT -5
People, really. The body does not recognize any difference between the various sugars. Whatever goes in will be converted to glucose for use by the cells. It's really as simple as that. Sugar is sugar is sugar.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 2, 2012 12:59:11 GMT -5
People, really. The body does not recognize any difference between the various sugars. Whatever goes in will be converted to glucose for use by the cells. It's really as simple as that. That's not what the internet told me! I like sea salt because of the bigger crystals, I like how it forms a nice crust on meat. ;D
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Post by swamp on Feb 2, 2012 13:00:54 GMT -5
I disagree. It IS the type of sugar we eat. Refined sugar in any amount is poison. Without the vitamins, proteins and minerals the body can't utilize this refined carbohydrate. In fact, eating it will deplete the body of these needed nutrients. ---------------------- Ummmm, no. Sugar is sugar is sugar. It's much like people using sea salt exclusively, thinking it's somehow better for them. It isn't. Just because you read something online, doesn't make it true. I use the Celtic Sea Salt because it has no caking agents in it, and the naturally occurring complex of nutrients hasn't been stripped away from it. The last time I looked at the ingredients in the Morton's salt container, it said "salt." What nutrients and caking agents are in it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 13:02:42 GMT -5
Soy can trigger occular migraines too. Once in a very rare while I get those instead of my usual common migraine. I am talking an occurance every few years, vs. every few weeks of my usual, without an aura type. The first time I had an occular migraine, I thought I was going blind. It happened in my twenties. I did not know what these were until I was in my fifties. Truly scary. Good to know, I manage to eat healthy and not eat soy, go figure. Yes occular / visual disturbance was trippy for me too, I was having them weekly and for a while daily. Glad thats gone,...touch wood.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 2, 2012 13:03:23 GMT -5
Magnesium deficiency can result in migraines. However, if you don't have a magnesium deficiency, check with your doctor before you start raising your level. There can be interactions with other medications, as well as side-effects from too high a level of magnesium.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 2, 2012 13:05:47 GMT -5
and the naturally occurring complex of nutrients hasn't been stripped away from it. --------------------- Please elaborate.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 2, 2012 13:07:29 GMT -5
Yes, the human race has had vast evolution since you were in college.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 2, 2012 13:08:09 GMT -5
People, really. The body does not recognize any difference between the various sugars. Whatever goes in will be converted to glucose for use by the cells. It's really as simple as that. That's not what the internet told me! I like sea salt because of the bigger crystals, I like how it forms a nice crust on meat. ;D I use sea salt, as well, for some things. Like you, I like the result!
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 2, 2012 13:14:39 GMT -5
People, really. The body does not recognize any difference between the various sugars. Whatever goes in will be converted to glucose for use by the cells. It's really as simple as that. That's not what the internet told me! I like sea salt because of the bigger crystals, I like how it forms a nice crust on meat. ;D Just like some people prefer honey to raw sugar, yes, it has different properties and different tastes and textures. However, your body just treats it as sugar. Same with salt. It may have bigger crystals or a different taste, but it's still salt, and nutritionally, it's exactly the same.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 2, 2012 13:16:42 GMT -5
I use sea salt as well, but I'm not kidding myself that it's somehow better for me.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 2, 2012 13:17:17 GMT -5
Please, cite your source for the information in post #108, lonewolf.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 2, 2012 13:19:16 GMT -5
The ppm of the "trace elements" in sea salt is so small that you'd have to eat a crapload of it to make any difference dietary wise and you'd probably be dead from a stroke thanks to high blood pressure before you got to a point where you'd see any benefits.
I do know from the foodnetwork some chefs are making fortunes off of cooking with different salts around the world because foodies claim they each have their own distinct taste like wine.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 2, 2012 13:19:19 GMT -5
"Sea salt is obtained directly through the evaporation of seawater. It is usually not processed, or undergoes minimal processing, and therefore retains trace levels of minerals like magnesium, potassium, calcium and other nutrients.
Table salt, on the other hand, is mined from salt deposits and then processed to give it a fine texture so it’s easier to mix and use in recipes. Processing strips table salt of any minerals it may have contained, and additives are also usually incorporated to prevent clumping or caking." ----------------------- Both are still sodium chloride, and if you think those trace minerals will make a difference, you'd have to eat several cups of salt a day.
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Feb 2, 2012 13:21:45 GMT -5
People, really. The body does not recognize any difference between the various sugars. Whatever goes in will be converted to glucose for use by the cells. It's really as simple as that. I've read some contradictory information on the different types of sugars,it is true it gets converted to glucose but some things I ve read indicate that they go through different processes to get there. But I don't think it should be regulate any stonger than it is,remove subsidies and tarrifs and let's see if pure cane sugar makes a come back. I hope so,what little bit of coke I drink ibuy from a little mexican store that sales pure can coke from mexico
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 13:21:57 GMT -5
Natural sea salt contains trace amounts of iodine. Iodized salt has extra iodine added to help fight iodine deficiencies. Do we really need the iodine added? The New England Journal of Medicine published research from China that looks at the relationship between iodine intake and thyroid disease. Reporting in the June of 2006 issue, the researchers concluded that "more than adequate or excessive iodine intake may lead to hypothyroidism and autoimmune thyroiditis." These findings were accompanied by an editorial by Dr. Robert Utiger, who said that "the small risks of chronic iodine excess are outweighed by the substantial hazards of iodine deficiency," adding to the controversy over iodine, in particular, the iodization of salt, and iodine supplementation,
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 2, 2012 13:23:16 GMT -5
Sea salt and table salt have the same basic nutritional value, despite the fact that sea salt is often marketed as a more natural and healthy alternative. The real differences between sea salt and table salt are in their taste, texture and processing, not their chemical makeup. www.mayoclinic.com/health/sea-salt/AN01142Is the Mayo clinic good enough for you, Lone?
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 2, 2012 13:25:59 GMT -5
How about salt on fritos? Is it the same?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 13:37:14 GMT -5
This seems strangely appropriate for this thread. McDonald's stops using pink slime. McDonald's announced last week that, as of last August, is has stopped using ammonium hydroxide in the production of its hamburgers. MSNBC reports that the chemical, used in fertilizers, household cleaners and even homemade explosives, was also used to prepare McDonalds' hamburger meat.
McDonald's says they stopped using the chemical months ago and deny the move came after a public campaign against ammonium hydroxide by celebrity chef Jamie Oliver.
The food industry uses ammonium hydroxide as an anti-microbial agent in meats, which allows McDonald's to use otherwise "inedible meat."
On his show, Oliver said of the meat treatment: "Basically we're taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest form for dogs and making it 'fit' for humans."I wonder if their fries are safe, I still tend to like them once in a blue moon.
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Post by floridayankee on Feb 2, 2012 13:38:36 GMT -5
Both are still sodium chloride, and if you think those trace minerals will make a difference, you'd have to eat several cups of salt a day. You better pass the ketchup.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 20:43:05 GMT -5
"This seems strangely appropriate for this thread. McDonald's stops using pink slime."
Pink slime is chicken. The article you posted was about hamburgers. Also, pink slime is pink because raw chicken is pink.
------------------------------------------------------- "Same with salt. It may have bigger crystals or a different taste, but it's still salt, and nutritionally, it's exactly the same."
Doesn't sea salt contain other salts besides NaCl? It sure seems to taste different, but maybe it's my imagination.
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Post by handyman2 on Feb 2, 2012 21:21:44 GMT -5
There is an old axiom I heard from a man 100 years old when discussing diets and what to eat. he said (If it tastes good spit it out it is not good for you) Well I might not make a hundred but if I followed his advice it would seem like it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 21:25:19 GMT -5
I think the nation as a whole is perfectly capable of monitoring their own sugar consumption and that of their loved ones.
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Post by dumdeedoe on Feb 2, 2012 21:57:02 GMT -5
Worry about your own life and the lives of your family...Stop trying to force others into being diligent.... Let them die off young before they get on social security and medicare please we need the breaks..........
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 3, 2012 0:06:28 GMT -5
I think the nation as a whole is perfectly capable of monitoring their own sugar consumption and that of their loved ones. Really? Then why does the majority look like this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 0:12:18 GMT -5
I think the nation as a whole is perfectly capable of monitoring their own sugar consumption and that of their loved ones. Really? Then why does the majority look like this? No doubt! Have you been to Disney land lately? Fat City, I think they have made all the seats bigger...seriously. Its pretty obvious that many, many people more than ever are having portion issues.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 0:12:33 GMT -5
I think the nation as a whole is perfectly capable of monitoring their own sugar consumption and that of their loved ones. Really? Then why does the majority look like this? Because they choose not too. Does not mean they are not capable, just that they don't want to much. Free will and all that.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 3, 2012 0:17:21 GMT -5
I think the nation as a whole is perfectly capable of monitoring their own sugar consumption and that of their loved ones ------------------- Evidently not.... The prevalence of both obesity and diabetes continues to rise at an alarming rate. Given the comorbidity between diabetes and obesity, researchers have coined a new portmanteau of these two words in ‘diabesity.’ Specifically, diabesity is defined as diabetes occurring in the context of obesity. It is also commonly referred to as ‘obesity-dependent’ diabetes. In recent news, concern is mounting as towards the health as well as economic impact of diabesity. Youssef M.K. Farag, M.B.,B.CH., a research fellow in Medicine at Brigham and Women’s hospital and Harvard Medical school recently coauthored a review of the latest epidemiological, economic, and health impact of diabesity [1]. www.hivehealthmedia.com/diabesity-rising-obesity-epidemic/If by "monitoring", you mean they know they're eating waaaaay too much, then yes, they're doing a bangup job of it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 0:38:00 GMT -5
yeah we should prob all have a monitor to make sure we are getting our allotment of recommended exercise everyday too. Maybe just an allotment of food for that matter with all our calories, vitamins, minerals already factored in for us.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 3, 2012 1:04:59 GMT -5
Have you been to Disney land lately? Fat City, I think they have made all the seats bigger...seriously. --------------------- They ARE making the seats bigger. They also had to reconfigure "It's a Small World" because the boats were scraping the bottom of the canal. Sometimes, it's just cheaper to rebuild the ride entirely, to accomodate the growing girth of the populace. calorielab.com/news/categories/disney-food-nutrition-obesity/These are the same folks who would cheerfully run over a grandmother to find a closer parking spot at Walmart. God forbid they should walk a few extra metres.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 3, 2012 10:17:39 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2012/02/01/health/opinion-regulate-sugar-alcohol/index.html?hpt=he_c2Apparently, there is a movement to start regulating sugar the same way we do alcohol. In some ways, I get their point. Food manufacturers put sugar, specifically high fructose corn syrup, in everything, and it is cheap to do since corn is heavily subsidized. One the other hand, we as individuals are still able to read food labels and control what we put in our mouths and what we serve our children. Your thoughts? Yeah, I looked around while eating dinner last night and I didn't see anyone with a gun pointed at my head telling me what to eat. So, why would I want someone standing there with a gun telling me what NOT to eat?
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