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Post by henryclay on Oct 24, 2011 17:15:45 GMT -5
But Romney may have a problem getting gun owner votes. Mitt Romney doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.”
“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them,” he said during a gubernatorial debate. “I won’t chip away at them; I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.”
Even worse, Romney signed a law to permanently ban many semi-automatic firearms. “These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense,” Romney said in 2004. “They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”
Romney also spoke in favor of the Brady law’s five day waiting period on handguns. The Boston Globe quotes Romney saying, “I don’t think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect.”
www.usacarry.com/mitt-romney-and-gun-control/
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Post by handyman2 on Oct 24, 2011 18:05:20 GMT -5
I doubt Romney will crush Cain in NH. he might come out on top but not by a big margin. One thing about NH they are an unpredictable group. More than one politician thought NH was a shoo-in and woke up the next morning to a surprise. I see Iowa as a toss-up between the two. For the most part people in that part of the country are not enamored by New Englanders.
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Post by zipity on Oct 24, 2011 18:24:45 GMT -5
it seems to me that your most electable candidate is Romney. I'm not a fan of Romney, I really want Cain to trounce him (or anyone else to trounce him)
This is the real problem for the GOP. Romney will be able to attract independents better than Cain or any other GOP candidate however few in the GOP like, trust or want Romney. If Romney wins the nomination you can count on much of the base staying home while some independents vote for him. If Cain or any of the other GOP candidates win the nomination, the base will turn out and the independents will stay home. The best thing about nominating Romney would be that after he loses the general election he might decide to not run again in 2016.
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Post by ungenteel on Oct 24, 2011 19:19:44 GMT -5
Maybe the repubs should "man up" and just create two parties .. because that is what they are ... repubs and the knee jerks to whom they pander
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 24, 2011 21:59:44 GMT -5
ditto. and unfortunately, i think this is going to be a very common reaction. but we shall see. Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are likely the only two repub candidates that would get my votes at this point in time. I'd love to see either of them break free from the repub ticket run as an indy. The media pretty much ignores both of them so they probably wouldn't have much of a chance either way. no, but they would get 6-10% of the GOP vote, either way, as well. they would certainly get MINE.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 24, 2011 22:01:07 GMT -5
I doubt Romney will crush Cain in NH. he is currently polling ahead by more than 20%
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 24, 2011 22:02:01 GMT -5
I see Iowa as a toss-up between the two. For the most part people in that part of the country are not enamored by New Englanders. i agree with your assessment on Iowa. SC will probably go to Cain, too.
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Post by diamonds on Oct 25, 2011 19:25:08 GMT -5
Cain is going to receive money from his supporters. Hs is well-liked and connects with the people. Romney lacks fire this time around, as his smugness shows that he believes he has it in the bag already. Yes, he may have more of the Independent voters, however people are desperate to get rid of this clown we have in there now. Newt always wins in the debates and is truly the smartest in all areas, but somehow the public longs for a new face on the scene. I predict as I am watching that Perry's numbers may rise due to his flat tax proposal. If Cain could change his 9 9 9 around to appease the middle class tax hikes he may stay on top. I do believe he could top Obama in a one on one as he is quick with his answers and hits the nail on the head with a few words. Actually, the top contenders all make good points, but in reality every one of them has flip-flopped. That doesn't worry me as much as the pure kool-aid we were fed in the past.
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Post by ungenteel on Oct 25, 2011 19:33:05 GMT -5
from what I hear .. Cain's money is coming from the Koch brothers
and any middle class person that buys 9-9-9 is so far out in space that he deserves to reap what he would sow
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Post by diamonds on Oct 25, 2011 20:18:06 GMT -5
from what I hear .. Cain's money is coming from the Koch brothers and any middle class person that buys 9-9-9 is so far out in space that he deserves to reap what he would sow Who cares who is funding who. Does Romey have a tax plan yet? Herman Cain was the first to come out with something and get the ball rolling.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Oct 25, 2011 20:30:38 GMT -5
from what I hear .. Cain's money is coming from the Koch brothers and any middle class person that buys 9-9-9 is so far out in space that he deserves to reap what he would sow Who cares who is funding who. Does Romey have a tax plan yet? Herman Cain was the first to come out with something and get the ball rolling. Who cares who is funding who? Are you serious??? It matters tremendously who is funding who. Obama is being funded by greedy business and that matters huge time to me. I voted for him in 08 but I will not vote for him again. If Cain is being funded by big greedy corps (koch bros) , then we should be concerned and we should find someone else to support. IMO Who is funding who is what matters most in the next election. We need to get big money out of politics.
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Post by diamonds on Oct 25, 2011 21:00:16 GMT -5
Ever hear of George Soros and Obama's biggest bundlers...or doesn't that bother you? Rezko was only one of them. Is he still in the clinker? Chicago machine, dear, I grew up there.
Then there's George Keiser, from the Solyndra debacle. Harvey Weinstein, CEO of Miramx, Jeffrey Katzenberg from Dreamworks just to name of FEW.
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Post by cereb on Oct 25, 2011 21:12:01 GMT -5
Ever hear of George Soros and Obama's biggest bundlers...or doesn't that bother you? Rezko was only one of them. Is he still in the clinker? Chicago machine, dear, I grew up there. Just a moment ago, it was "who cares..."
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Post by diamonds on Oct 25, 2011 21:18:09 GMT -5
I said who cares about the Koch brothers funding Cain. There is big money on both side of the ticket from millionaires and billionaires. It's called politics, but who has the last say? Hopefully, the voters, fair and square this time around.
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Post by diamonds on Oct 25, 2011 21:29:03 GMT -5
Do I think Rahm Emanuel won the election of Mayor of Chicago fair and sqare? No, it's always been run by the Daley's. Illinois has been Democratic for years and politics there is Mafia Style. Illinois has always be known to be a blue State, however I feel there may be a change in the next election. They have been one of the hardest hit States.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Oct 25, 2011 21:53:54 GMT -5
I said who cares about the Koch brothers funding Cain. No you did not. You said, " who cares who is funding who." Big difference. And imo, it matters big time who if funding who.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 25, 2011 22:29:04 GMT -5
Do I think Rahm Emanuel won the election of Mayor of Chicago fair and sqare? No, it's always been run by the Daley's. Illinois has been Democratic for years and politics there is Mafia Style. Illinois has always be known to be a blue State, however I feel there may be a change in the next election. They have been one of the hardest hit States. historically, Illinois has been more reliably Democratic than California.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Oct 25, 2011 22:59:09 GMT -5
Do I think Rahm Emanuel won the election of Mayor of Chicago fair and sqare? No, it's always been run by the Daley's. Illinois has been Democratic for years and politics there is Mafia Style. Illinois has always be known to be a blue State, however I feel there may be a change in the next election. They have been one of the hardest hit States. historically, Illinois has been more reliably Democratic than California. Illinois is not going to turn red anytime soon. I believe that state will remain a democratic state for a long time to come.
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Post by diamonds on Oct 25, 2011 23:11:18 GMT -5
>>>historically, Illinois has been more reliably Democratic than California. <<<
Historically yes, but things have changed quite a bit in the last 3 years. The suburbs there are in the double digits of unemployment. There is NO way to determine if it will stay that way. Nevada was always blue too, but Nevada and Calif. have been hit the hardest.
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Post by zipity on Oct 25, 2011 23:16:28 GMT -5
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Post by SweetVirginia on Oct 25, 2011 23:17:41 GMT -5
>>>historically, Illinois has been more reliably Democratic than California. <<< Historically yes, but things have changed quite a bit in the last 3 years. The suburbs there are in the double digits of unemployment. There is NO way to determine if it will stay that way. Nevada was always blue too, but Nevada and Calif. have been hit the hardest. CA will not change from a blue state anytime soon. Neither will Illinois, imho.
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Post by handyman2 on Oct 26, 2011 10:28:10 GMT -5
Calfornia will stay a blue state and so will ILL. Well a few years ago I would have said no honorable southern red neck would vote republican but I was wrong. Time will tell. I can tell you with my ear to the ground there are a bunch of good ole boys who like Cain. My how quick things change when it comes to politics and money.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 26, 2011 11:17:33 GMT -5
>>>historically, Illinois has been more reliably Democratic than California. <<< Historically yes, but things have changed quite a bit in the last 3 years. The suburbs there are in the double digits of unemployment. There is NO way to determine if it will stay that way. Nevada was always blue too, but Nevada and Calif. have been hit the hardest. 1) things have got more divisive in the last three years, but that doesn't mean that reliably blue states are going to go red. 2) Nevada has not been reliably blue, at all. it is a swing state, and is fairly conservative on the whole. maybe not compared to Nebraska, but compared to any other state in the West other than Idaho. i agree that there is no way to DETERMINE that it will stay that way. however, we can make educated guesses.
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Post by diamonds on Oct 26, 2011 12:52:00 GMT -5
Calfornia will stay a blue state and so will ILL. Well a few years ago I would have said no honorable southern red neck would vote republican but I was wrong. Time will tell. I can tell you with my ear to the ground there are a bunch of good ole boys who like Cain. My how quick things change when it comes to politics and money. ..... Good on you handyman, yes, opinions can change for sure when you take the smoke and mirrors and see realisticlly how the country has suffered with weak leadership.
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Post by bubblyandblue on Oct 26, 2011 13:01:34 GMT -5
A good president is one who happens to be on the job when you are having a run of good luck.
Don't think for a moment the Repubs don't understand this and the corollary. Just how active do you think the rupubs have been at suppresing any good luck the Pres. has had?
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 26, 2011 13:03:00 GMT -5
A good president is one who happens to be on the job when you are having a run of good luck. oh man. you said such a mouthfull, there.
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Post by diamonds on Oct 26, 2011 13:36:31 GMT -5
A good president is one who happens to be on the job when you are having a run of good luck. oh man. you said such a mouthfull, there. He and he alone is responible for the fricking mess we're in. All he wants to do is whine and nail the blame game on the opposing party. Harry Reid said his jobs bill was DOA and the Senate rejected it. Now I saw him this morning pressing on to invest more money into his bill. The pricetag is too heftyand all he has is words, no wait, the teleprompter stopped and he was quiet for a few seconds. Stop the campaigning , roll your sleeves up and compromise to get results.
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Post by diamonds on Oct 26, 2011 13:46:56 GMT -5
Well, we headed for another downgrade if the super-committee doesn't come up with some significant cuts. The madness of spending has got to stop, which Obama ignores.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 26, 2011 13:53:56 GMT -5
Well, we headed for another downgrade if the super-committee doesn't come up with some significant cuts. The madness of spending has got to stop, which Obama ignores. the GOP has been ignoring the revenue increases that the SC endorses, as well. plenty of blame to go around.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 26, 2011 23:50:06 GMT -5
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