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Post by shelby on Aug 5, 2011 15:42:09 GMT -5
Ok then why are they so against GLAAD and ActUp don't know much about the groups except they advocate for GBLT. So enlighten me on why you despise them so.
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 5, 2011 15:43:19 GMT -5
Ok then why are they so against GLAAD and ActUp don't know much about the groups except they advocate for GBLT. So enlighten me on why you despise them so. And your point is what?? The topic of this thread is about the tea party and here's something about the NCTP for you to read: The Tea Party Patriots concept began in February of 2009 when a reporter at the Chicago Stock Exchange said, ¨DIt¡®s time for another Boston Tea Party. Immediately after that comment, the internet exploded with people from every part of the country, all walks of life and both sides of the aisle shouting a resounding ¨DYES in agreement. Little did that reporter realize that his comment would spark a flame that is burning brighter every day. The first local Tea Party event was held on February 27, 2009 at the California State Capitol. Planning began in the living room of Mark and Patty Meckler, ordinary citizens of Grass Valley, who felt strongly that their government was out of control. With no money, no publicity other than word of mouth and with very little planning, Mark, Patty, their two kids and Mark¡®s mom and dad headed to Sacramento armed with their passion and a few signs. At first, they were the only ones there. Little by little, people trickled in and within a few hours there were over 150 people protesting out of control government spending and waste. These too were just ordinary citizens who had said, ¨DEnough is enough¡¬. The media didn¡®t cover this event. They didn¡®t think that is was ¨Dnewsworthy. They were wrong indeed. Sacramento and Nevada Counties were among the first official Tea Party organizations formed following the February event. April 15th, our annual ¨DTax Day, was the key date in becoming a National Force for the kind of change most Americans are longing for. Some media still chose to dismiss the effort, but one network, Fox News, stood strong and covered every major Tea Party across the United States. In California, there were over 80 Tea Parties. Across the United States, there were over 850 with thousands pouring into the streets of their communities numbering over 1.2 million Tea Party participants. These were just ordinary Americans, young, old, rich, poor and all in between, joining with their families, friends and neighbors. This represented the largest number of demonstrators on any one day, multi-city protest in the history of the world! Their voices were loud and clear. They will no longer tolerate the government ignoring the voice of the people. The governed were not going to allow the runaway spending or watch our Constitution get trampled by an over-reaching government arm. Across this land, from sea to shining sea, the Tea Party was making a difference. Now, it was time to change the name to ¨DTea Party Patriots. In California, the Tea Party Patriots helped to defeat the tax propositions that were on the ballot in June of 2009. According to the Howard Jarvis Taxpayer¡®s Association, the Tea Party Patriots were instrumental in the fight against each one of those ballot measures.
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Post by shelby on Aug 5, 2011 15:50:21 GMT -5
Fine don't answer the question to the topic you brought up typical.....ugg so frustrating
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Post by bubblyandblue on Aug 5, 2011 15:50:24 GMT -5
I far as I remember, FedEx started out using air carriers and the then current transportation infrustructure to get the packages to the recipient on time - they used computer tech to wrap the logistics. In the time I have been alive, I have not seen much good when dereg comes about - look at our financial services industy. I see regulations as a way to keep people safe from fraud, save lives, prevent monopoly etc.. People talk of deregulating so free markets can emerge. I have seen a broad band of deregulations that have done nothing but harm. I find it interesting that a corporation is existing because people created laws that created corporations. Corporations are entities that can not exist without human invention and law - whats wrong with regulating something that has always shown a propensity to harm when following its only mandate - shareholder value -
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Post by steff on Aug 5, 2011 15:53:10 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 5, 2011 15:54:39 GMT -5
Fine don't answer the question to the topic you brought up typical.....ugg so frustrating I think any group that stands up to Act Up, Code Pink or GLAAD is a good thing we need more of them IMHO so deal with it..
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Post by magichat on Aug 5, 2011 15:55:40 GMT -5
At the expense of others? Sure why not...nothing bad can ever come fromt that.... Maybe he stared off into space ignoring you....but go ahead and have your laugh.
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Post by shelby on Aug 5, 2011 15:58:32 GMT -5
Fine don't answer the question to the topic you brought up typical.....ugg so frustrating I think any group that stands up to Act Up, Code Pink or GLAAD is a good thing we need more of them IMHO so deal with it.. So you don't know why just because, you maybe need something to be against to make your world a little better...nice
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 5, 2011 15:58:39 GMT -5
Ok then why are they so against GLAAD and ActUp don't know much about the groups except they advocate for GBLT. So enlighten me on why you despise them so. People hate gay and lesbians because they are stupid, (not the gays or lesbians, but the haters). People dont want them to have certain legal rights, (like marriage) for various reasons. For the record if you want to categorize people who dont like gays or lesbians you would do better by using age, instead of political affiliation. Can you provide some backup for your claim??
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 5, 2011 16:01:57 GMT -5
Ok then why are they so against GLAAD and ActUp don't know much about the groups except they advocate for GBLT. So enlighten me on why you despise them so. People hate gay and lesbians because they are stupid, (not the gays or lesbians, but the haters). People dont want them to have certain legal rights, (like marriage) for various reasons. For the record if you want to categorize people who dont like gays or lesbians you would do better by using age, instead of political affiliation. That wouldn't work very well, either, frankly. Probably, the best idea is to stop trying to put people into little boxes and expecting them to fit perfectly and stay there. Because people are individuals, their thoughts tend to be individualistic. That doesn't lend itself to "packaging".
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 5, 2011 16:02:27 GMT -5
I think any group that stands up to Act Up, Code Pink or GLAAD is a good thing we need more of them IMHO so deal with it.. So you don't know why just because, you maybe need something to be against to make your world a little better...nice Opposition to Act Up, Code Pink and GLAAD is a very good thing IMHO
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Post by steff on Aug 5, 2011 16:04:05 GMT -5
what does riding the Marta train have to do with the military? Oh geeeeeeeeeeeez.... we saw something we thought was funny.... we joked with each other.... we didn't bring out torches and get the rest of the train riders to kick them off or anything like that.... talk about over the top reactions to a chuckle between friends out having a good time and enjoying life..... this kinda backs up my belief that folks don't know how to enjoy life and have a good time anymore.... everything everywhere is instead a reason to freak out and make it all political. We didn't freak out, we didn't get into some random battle.... we asked "yall do know that public transportation is one of those socialist idea/actions that the Tea Party in theory is against?".... we got a blank look in return.... we went back to talking to other passengers about the concert.... 90% of the train car were concert goers....
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 5, 2011 16:04:12 GMT -5
Can you provide some backup for your claim?? yes I can yea right then share it with us...if you can..??
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Post by deziloooooo on Aug 5, 2011 16:07:50 GMT -5
I'll never forget when I was going to a concert one night and we were on the Marta train (Public/socialist transportation).... there was a Tea Party gathering the same day near where the concert was at. The Marta train had several folks with Tea Party signs. The friend I was with & I asked one of them if they realized they were taking public (socialist) transportation to the gathering.... they just stared blankly without a clue....
it was definately worth a chuckle or three..... so I am against the huge military industry. I think we spend about three times what we need to. Yet I kind of like having the military protect us. You chuckle about that too? In some ways I feel the same, it's a big part of our expenditures, military so is open for discussion, is it to much.? Then I read articles , and again, I am just a shlump who knows nothing..my time in service means squat...my knowledge of , was dedicated to basically a few hundred yards in front and to the sides, [and yes my rear too ] ..so my time in as far as expertise counts for bubkas.. And I read that the Chinese who claim to have a military budget of $78 Billion, it's suggested by those in the know, it's really $300 Billion plus, and they are concentrating on their own sphere of influence, South East Asia, [ we have the whole globe it seems to be involved with with our almost $600 billion..} plus pipe lines over land from Russia , including Iran and through Iran, so it protects them selves from our possible, in a dust up if ever, g-d I hope not, cutting off their supply through the straits and gulf.. I read how they have been making dangerous, to us and allies , moves in that area, to influence our allies, [ they claim nothing to worry about, nothing to fear, just peaceful intentions ] Philippines, Korea, Japan, Vietnam too, [yep our Allie now] and the other south East asian nations, all seem to be booming away, to become the dominate force in the area, to remove us from power and influence there, and I have to ask is this healthy, is it good for us , the USA , in influence, trade, business..becoming a second rate power? So should we cut back on defense..do we want or can we afford to be out of that area, possible the Middle East too, and who knows where else, seems we are not that strong in our own back yard..the Americas ..China is making inroads there too..next possible Africa..can we , should we be a second rate power..so questions on cutting the military, is this good... Is this what the conservatives want? If not , how do you say that but still push the cuts.. It is a puzzlement and I don't have the answer, but personally feel we must still have a very, very strong military..no matter the cost... Remember..I am a senior, I have lived with we being a POWER, the POWER and feel a lot of our advantages and advancements are because of that power we have, so don't feel being a second rate power is the answer, of course, IMHO of course.
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