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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 30, 2011 22:31:42 GMT -5
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jul 1, 2011 1:37:47 GMT -5
...at the risk of sounding lazy, I don't want to click the link right now... but I saw that this broke the evening news, but wasn't really listening then, either... ...okay, maybe I am lazy...  ...but might you be willing to sum up the article? or highlight the chief "holes" in her credibility?  |
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Post by txbo on Jul 1, 2011 2:35:30 GMT -5
...at the risk of sounding lazy, I don't want to click the link right now... but I saw that this broke the evening news, but wasn't really listening then, either... ...okay, maybe I am lazy... ...but might you be willing to sum up the article? or highlight the chief "holes" in her credibility? The b#### lied. |
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 1, 2011 6:26:10 GMT -5
Hmmn, lied about her "rape" on her application to enter the U.S.
Has been taped on phone conversations with incarcerated felon who has put something like 100,000 dollars in her bank account (drug deals)
and has been caught saying she can make money on her current rape allegations.
Rock solid case for the prosecution right now, imo................
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 7:24:47 GMT -5
Kahn has a million dollar defense team so you know the victim will be destroyed and he will be left free to do his evil deeds again.. The accuser was supposed to be very credible, now her case against Kahn is falling apart??? This is the justice system you have in New York different strokes for different folks especially the Super Rich.. We need the Honorable Mr. Dalton M. Burns III to give us his legal perspective or his Canadian legal bud Mr.Virgil Sovereign who often wears many hats here, (1) Intelligent,White Conservative, (2) Moderator Par Excellence, (3) Senior Canadian Legal Advisor..to name just 3..
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Post by handyman2 on Jul 1, 2011 8:42:56 GMT -5
Well on first read my first impression is that this is an attack by those in the world of high end politics to protect a well known political figure against a lowly maid. This may or may not be true. Yes the maid has a past. But then how did a motel maid even know who this guy was or his importance in politics. She was just going about her job cleaning rooms. I doubt she said suddenly I am going to intice this guy and set him up to blackmail him. If that were true I doubt she would have called the police.
Although she is not a steller person I would be more inclined to believe her over the politician. Just the timing of the whole affair puts me in her camp at present.
But reality says the powers that be will find a way to destroy her story and protect a big shot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 9:30:19 GMT -5
I think maybe he did do it, and now he will walk because she is not the squeaky clean immigrant girl we were first told she is. Seriously-- who can fight that kind of money?? There are also the other women that came forward.
If anyone remembers the old thread on this subject, remember she and her family are Muslims? When I first read that, contrary to what most people here would THINK I would think, it lent her credibility in my eyes, because I view Muslim women as not at all sluttish, etc, from what I have read about Muslim women.
But NOW we have a Muslim woman that apparently lied on her immigration papers, has a lot of money in her accounts that has been transferred from several different US states.. one is AZ, the gateway for illegals, multiple cell phones that she lied about having, a drug connection.... this one is getting weird now.
Glad it is happening in NYC, though. If anyone can figure out what is going on with both of these people, I imagine it is the NYC cops.
I'd hate to see him walk if he really did it, but I'd also hate to see her walk if she is involved in drug trafficing, terrorism, whatever.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 9:34:25 GMT -5
There will be some behind the scene deal worked out with the accuser and she wil drop her charges...suddenly she will find a check in the mail and move to another state or go back to her country of origin....remember you heard it here first and as you know I am never wrong about anything and batting 1000 ..  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 9:36:15 GMT -5
There was also the story that she was living in "HIV/AIDS housing"-- whatever that is. Never heard another word about that, though, or anything about her HIV status. Could be some immigrant scam on our gov't? Who knows. If this is a ring of bad guy immigrants I wonder if they will meet the NEW requirements for deportation? NYC cops will figure it out.
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Post by handyman2 on Jul 1, 2011 9:36:28 GMT -5
Don't for get there are those who use the names of immigrants to hide their activities. Drug dealers do this quite often using fake SS numbers and illegals names and the poor slups know nothing about it. Many of the mules they are called cannot even read or write English much less have big bank accounts.
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Post by swamp on Jul 1, 2011 9:40:09 GMT -5
There will be some behind the scene deal worked out with the accuser and she wil drop her charges...suddenly she will find a check in the mail and move to another state or go back to her country of origin....remember you heard it here first and as you know I am never wrong about anything and batting 1000 .. It's not the victim/complainant's decision to drop the charges, though. The problem with that is once an indictment is filed, there are certain plea bargaining limitations in NY. If he's charged with a B violent felony Rape 1st, any plea as to be to C violent felony, otherwise the prosecutor has to go on record to explain the reason to deviate from the law. If there is a multiple count indictment, he can plead to one of the lower counts to satisfy the indictment. if the prosecutor wants to discontinue the prosecution, he has to put the reasons on the record. By law, the charges are not supposed to go away quietly. Note, however, I said "supposed." Sometimes things happen that aren't on the up and up. |
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Post by swamp on Jul 1, 2011 9:40:56 GMT -5
There was also the story that she was living in "HIV/AIDS housing"-- whatever that is. Never heard another word about that, though, or anything about her HIV status. Could be some immigrant scam on our gov't? Who knows. If this is a ring of bad guy immigrants I wonder if they will meet the NEW requirements for deportation? NYC cops will figure it out. I'm not sure about this, but I'm pretty sure NYC has housing specifically for people with HIV. I have no idea how it's funded, though. |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 9:48:00 GMT -5
I bet all charges will be dropped in this case and Kahn will be given a he ro's welcome when he goes home and a standing ovation by his colleagues in the World Bank.....any takers I will give you all 3 to 1 odds, and again I am NOT an attorney..couldn't get into Law School at Harvard or BC because I majored in Hockey and minored in Beer Drinking.. But got an A in Business Law & wrote several papers for our college newspaper about criminal activity in our Unions..
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 10:06:56 GMT -5
Hate to say I told you so.
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Post by swamp on Jul 1, 2011 10:07:37 GMT -5
Hate to say I told you so. Oh stop it. YOu love it. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 10:36:29 GMT -5
It was one big rush to judgment, and this is what you get when that happens. The right went absolutely nuts over it because he's a big lefty-- and I understand the urge, believe me, I do. The left went nuts over it because he's a big rich guy and she's just a lowly maid.
It was sad to see how many people chose the guilty side- each for their own reasons- and how few chose the side of justice.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 10:36:59 GMT -5
...sad? Maybe I meant to say scary.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 10:48:49 GMT -5
Kahn was just released on his own without any bail and Fox News said that there is a strong possibility all charges against Kahn may be dropped ...so we shall see what happens Kahn cannot yet leave the country but the French News is now saying "See We Told You So"..apparently France thinks this was just a conspiracy against Kahn who wants to seek higher office in France..
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Post by swamp on Jul 1, 2011 10:55:00 GMT -5
It was one big rush to judgment, and this is what you get when that happens. The right went absolutely nuts over it because he's a big lefty-- and I understand the urge, believe me, I do. The left went nuts over it because he's a big rich guy and she's just a lowly maid. It was sad to see how many people chose the guilty side- each for their own reasons- and how few chose the side of justice. Actually, I picked the side I did because usually the NY County DA's office is politically astute. Cy Vance didn't get where is he by being politically tone deaf, and a crappy case like this can kill him politically. You would think the victim would have been interviewed carefully and completely before an arrest of this magnitude was made. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 10:56:38 GMT -5
But, you guys-- he still could have raped her, you know. His background with women is nasty. Attacking the victim in rape cases is nothing new. I'd hate to see a rapist walk because his victim is shady.
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Post by swamp on Jul 1, 2011 10:57:10 GMT -5
But, you guys-- he still could have raped her, you know. His background with women is nasty. Attacking the victim in rape cases is nothing new. I'd hate to see a rapist walk because his victim is shady. True dat. |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jul 1, 2011 11:09:21 GMT -5
But, you guys-- he still could have raped her, you know. His background with women is nasty. Attacking the victim in rape cases is nothing new. I'd hate to see a rapist walk because his victim is shady. ...I thought about this, too... didn't Jodie Foster win an oscar portraying a discredited girl in a rape case? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 11:16:03 GMT -5
Unless she is really stupid, she HAD to know all this would come out. Kinda makes her story even more credible. I mean, her immigration status could be on the line here. Why would she risk that, especially if whatever the hell she is involved in was putting $100,000. in her account? In my world that is a lot of money. I still think he did it. And I think he will walk..
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 11:16:57 GMT -5
He was released without bail and his lawyers just asked for all charges to be dropped ...the judge is hearing their arguments right now and the defense seems to have a strong case... The charges are tittering and Kahn wants to be the President of France which may have something to do with this case I think??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 11:23:01 GMT -5
I bet this woman really regrets reporting this... whatever it was. Now they are looking at HER, when, apparently, she was flying under the cop radar before all this... AHH-- lifestyles of the rich and powerful.... now he will go on to be President of France?? Geez......... |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 11:23:19 GMT -5
But, you guys-- he still could have raped her, you know. His background with women is nasty. Attacking the victim in rape cases is nothing new. I'd hate to see a rapist walk because his victim is shady. No, his alleged background with women is nasty. We really don't know anything about the man, but even if we did-- being a jerk isn't a crime (yet). |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 11:25:40 GMT -5
He was released without bail and his lawyers just asked for all charges to be dropped ...the judge is hearing their arguments right now and the defense seems to have a strong case... The charges are tittering and Kahn wants to be the President of France which may have something to do with this case I think?? If the prosecution had all the physical evidence they allegedly had- then it wouldn't matter that the victim was a little shady. I was under the impression that the defense changed their story as a result of the evidence from there was no contact to there was sexual contact, but it was consentual? Which is it? I guess we're never gonna know... |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 11:43:05 GMT -5
The DA said they are investigating the witness and has not said he would drop the case..
The Media in NYC is going nuts and the case is now up in the air
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 11:55:26 GMT -5
It SHOULD be up in the air! To drop it when there is evidence of sexual activity, and a woman like this that is getting thrashed for reporting it.. to drop it would be pure miscarriage of justice. If he did it he needs to go to jail, and if she is some kind of criminal she needs to be deported.
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