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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 12:08:44 GMT -5
I think what happened is the victim made some mistake in her testimony that the Defense ceased on but she stands by her rape claim, and I guess the charges still stand for now.....but who knows what is going on behind the scene..??
The Judge could toss all out of the charges if he wants to so that has to play out I guess....
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Post by pepper112765 on Jul 1, 2011 12:13:43 GMT -5
It was one big rush to judgment, and this is what you get when that happens. The right went absolutely nuts over it because he's a big lefty-- and I understand the urge, believe me, I do. The left went nuts over it because he's a big rich guy and she's just a lowly maid. It was sad to see how many people chose the guilty side- each for their own reasons- and how few chose the side of justice. Actually, I picked the side I did because usually the NY County DA's office is politically astute. Cy Vance didn't get where is he by being politically tone deaf, and a crappy case like this can kill him politically. You would think the victim would have been interviewed carefully and completely before an arrest of this magnitude was made. Totally agree with you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 12:54:26 GMT -5
BUT-- the cops did not come up with this new stuff, so it is not something the cops would have seen at the click of a name. HIS investigators found this new stuff, and they have unlimited $$$$. I don't blame the cops or prosecutors here. What were they supposed to do? Just let him fly away?
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 13:37:40 GMT -5
The case was not scheduled to return to court until July 18. And the Judge may or may not dismiss all charges so we will have to wait a few weeks to see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 15:20:27 GMT -5
JMO.. not worth crud.. but I think she is some kind of criminal.. illegal, terrorist, drug dealer, something... and I also think he is a rapist. May the richest criminal win. It's the American way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 16:15:36 GMT -5
Yeah, tough.. control and power over a subservient person such as a maid could be a powerful aphrodisiac for one bent that way..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 16:24:20 GMT -5
Spit on me and throw me to the curb, but I think maybe the maid is a terrorist type, from the stuff they found. HOWEVER-- she had worked at that hotel for a long time. Can't really believe she was just there waiting for this one guy, but that's just me. I think they are both criminals and assholes, and that both will walk. IF he walks.. we should hear a lot more about HER, right? I'm betting we will never hear another word about her.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 16:57:22 GMT -5
This case is going to make a great movie or else be on Saturday Night Live...IMHO
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Post by handyman2 on Jul 1, 2011 20:25:02 GMT -5
Her past and his past has nothing to do with it. If a rape happened it should be prosecuted for the crime it is. That is what equal justice means. It is not surprising that there a smear of her is going on but that should be no bearing on the charge. In this legal system if you rape a prostitute it is a criminal offense and prosecuted. Should be no different for her.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 2, 2011 8:36:04 GMT -5
Rush: The new IMF woman replacing this guy happens to be from Chicago. Anybody want to start talking conspiracies here?
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 2, 2011 8:44:00 GMT -5
CBS Radio News just announced that the 33 year old Accuser from Guinea was working two jobs one as a Maid and the other as a Prostitute..so this case now hinges on the lady's credibility that has been so badly damaged that the case may be dismissed.. France news is questioning the American Legal System so this story is now front page in Paris and President Sarkozy has to be scratching his head wondering if DSK could once again challenge his very un-popular government chances for re-election so this story is a "Big F******* Deal" to steal a quote from VP Joe Biden..
P.I. (Viva La France!)
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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 2, 2011 12:11:44 GMT -5
That thought of a political comeback is not so far fetched..
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Americas Speculation grows over Strauss-Kahn comeback Talk turns to revival of bid for French presidency as rape case against ex-IMF chief weakens. Last Modified: 02 Jul 2011 11:49
France has been reacting to news of the release from house arrest of its politician and former managing director of the IMF, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, with speculation he could revive his bid for the presidency after cracks in a rape case against him emerged.
Strauss-Kahn, who was released on Friday, had been under house arrest in New York for a little more than five weeks after a 32-year-old hotel chambermaid accused him of raping her.
He denies the charges and prosecutors freed him after it emerged that the chambermaid, who has remained anonymous since Strauss-Kahn's arrest, had lied to the jury.
"This is an incredible sudden transformation," Jerome Klein, a businessman, said of Strauss-Kahn's release.
"We have gone from a phase in which everything was on the side of the accuser and now it seems that everything has turned around with an astonishing speed."
But Strauss-Kahn, who dined at a Manhattan resturant to celebrate his release, is not allowed to leave the US yet as the case is pending, although he is free to travel within the country.
Al Jazeera's Jacky Rowland, reporting from Paris, said one official from Strauss Kahn's political party called his release a "decisive step in establishing the truth".
Another official said it was "a moment of intense relief for Mr Strauss-Kahn and his family and also for his party".
"There's a big question now about a possible political rehabilitation for Strauss-Kahn if, in fact, his name is cleared and is able to return to France," our correspondent said.
No freed unconditionally
Strauss-Kahn still has hurdles to jump over as he was not freed unconditionally.
"It is still a long way off for Mr Strauss-Kahn ... the charges are still being pursued," Al Jazeera's Rowland said.
Strauss-Kahn's arrest upended French politics and appeared to dash his ambitions for France's top job.
Though he had not formally declared his candidacy in next year's elections, polls had suggested for months that he would beat Nicolas Sarkozy, the sitting president.
Al Jazeera's Jacky Rowland reports from Paris on the French reaction to the new twist in the rape case against Strauss-Kahn
There was speculation that the Socialist Party's primary election to choose a candidate might be delayed.
The deadline for Socialists to declare candidacy for the party's presidential primary is July 13 and the primary vote is scheduled for October.
"I have asked my colleagues if we can have a pause of decency in the primary process," Michele Sabban, a Socialist politician who has long known Strauss-Kahn, said on BFM TV after his court appearance, which was covered in special reports on a handful of TV stations.
Strauss-Kahn, who resigned as head of the IMF after his arrest, had been confined for weeks to a ritzy Manhattan loft on $6m in cash and bond.
The hotel maid accused Strauss-Kahn of chasing her through his luxury suite in May, trying to disrobe her and forcing her to perform oral sex. Authorities have said they have forensic evidence of a sexual encounter, but defense lawyers have said it was not forced.
Revelations of major problems with his accuser's credibility were first reported in the New York Times.
Reports say investigators have come to believe that the woman lied about some of her activities in the hours around the alleged attack and about her own background.
Prosecutors think she also lied about details on her application for asylum in the US, including saying she had been raped in her native Guinea, the newspaper said.
Ken Thompson, the accuser's attorney, did not back down on the seriousness of the charges.
"From Day One she has described a violent sexual assault that Dominique Strauss-Kahn committed against her," he said.
"She has described that sexual assault many times, to prosecutors and to me, and she has never once changed a single thing about that encounter."
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Post by handyman2 on Jul 2, 2011 19:56:39 GMT -5
My guess is that KHAN is not out of the woods yet. I wonder if there is not pressure from his opponents in France is pressuring the prosecutor to push the charge through to trial.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 2, 2011 20:05:43 GMT -5
My guess is that KHAN is not out of the woods yet. I wonder if there is not pressure from his opponents in France is pressuring the prosecutor to push the charge through to trial. Hard to even guess on that one Handyman2, but if you watched all the lawyers discussing this case for the past three days, the consensus seems to be by the so called Legal Beagles that there is a strong possibility that all charges will be dropped and the accuser may end up being charged for providing false statements ...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 3, 2011 14:17:06 GMT -5
My guess is that KHAN is not out of the woods yet. I wonder if there is not pressure from his opponents in France is pressuring the prosecutor to push the charge through to trial. Hard to even guess on that one Handyman2, but if you watched all the lawyers discussing this case for the past three days, the consensus seems to be by the so called Legal Beagles that there is a strong possibility that all charges will be dropped and the accuser may end up being charged for providing false statements ... These "Duke" type cases really do real rape victims such a disservice. We should really consider new laws to really drop the hammer on accusers who do this sort of thing. I'd like to see an eye-for-an-eye: Whatever the false accusation, we use sentencing guidelines from that or those crimes when and if you're convicted.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 5, 2011 7:35:15 GMT -5
I don't buy it. If there was all of this money and drugs, why was she working as a maid in a hotel? I would believe that Strauss Kahn's lawyers have bought off or imitated everyone involved.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 5, 2011 7:36:59 GMT -5
BUT-- the cops did not come up with this new stuff, so it is not something the cops would have seen at the click of a name. HIS investigators found this new stuff, and they have unlimited $$$$. I don't blame the cops or prosecutors here. What were they supposed to do? Just let him fly away? According to the accuser's own lawyer, they were the one's who approached the Prosecuter with the details, after she told her attorney, of the shenanigans. She also stated she went and cleaned another room, then went back to his room and started cleaning it, before reporting the incident.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 5, 2011 7:55:17 GMT -5
Prosecutor to drop charges against Kahn by this accuser but he still has another accuser to deal with and the beat goes on for this guy. New accusations Strauss-Kahn meanwhile faces a potential new sexual assault investigation Tuesday when a young French writer plans to formally accuse him of trying to rape her during a 2002 book interview www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43637321/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts?gt1=43001
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 5, 2011 7:55:29 GMT -5
Not everyone make the best choice during times of distress.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 5, 2011 7:56:46 GMT -5
Not everyone make the best choice during times of distress. Report: Prosecutor to drop charges against Dominique Strauss-Kahn 'We all know this case is not sustainable,' source tells New York Post And ask yourselves what does this case say about our justice systems especially in New York....the rich and poor get equal justice??? Yea right..
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 6, 2011 7:47:34 GMT -5
Not everyone make the best choice during times of distress. Prosecutor to drop charges against Dominique Strauss-Kahn 'We all know this case is not sustainable,' source tells New York Post And ask yourselves what does this case say about our justice systems especially in New York....the rich and poor get equal justice??? Yea right.. PI, his lawyers did not dig up the dirt and inform the Prosecuter. Her lawyer did it for them. Evidently NBC'S Law and Order's violent sex crime division is no longer on the job. Now that she admits she lied on her asylum application, can we deport her? She is obviously here under an illegal statement. Then again, maybe the Feds could move her into an apartment in Boston next door to President Obama's illegal squatter aunt. Please?
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 6, 2011 8:19:23 GMT -5
Ok but ask youself about two major legal cases in the news recently (1) Dominique Strauss-Kahn, and (2) Casey Anthony and you may want to add a third one in a few weeks, United States vs Roger Clemens in a federal courtroom in Washington DC...he faces @ 6 charges and could be put away for several years or this case could all fall apart ..so stay tuned...to watch our legal systems in work..
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Post by swamp on Jul 6, 2011 8:23:03 GMT -5
Pardon me guys. The woman has a part-time job as a PROSTITUTE and that is not relevant? Actually, it's not. Prostitutes can be rape victims.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 6, 2011 8:31:37 GMT -5
The DSK case fell apart because of the credibility or the maid and the prosecutors now have doubts about her testimony. But if DSK returns to Paris he has another lady who is NOT a prostitute waiting for him since she has now formally charged him with attempted rape.....So we may learn the difference between American vs French justice... and don't forget France doesn't use the Guillotine anymore or send prisoners to Devils Island...
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Post by floridayankee on Jul 6, 2011 9:17:15 GMT -5
Actually, it's not. Prostitutes can be rape victims. Wouldn't that be more like shoplifting?
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Post by swamp on Jul 6, 2011 9:47:23 GMT -5
Actually, it's not. Prostitutes can be rape victims. Wouldn't that be more like shoplifting? It could be grand larceny depending on the value of her services.
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Post by Taxman10 on Jul 6, 2011 9:49:35 GMT -5
Wouldn't that be more like shoplifting? It could be grand larceny depending on the value of her services. LOL :-)
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Post by floridayankee on Jul 6, 2011 11:43:59 GMT -5
It could be grand larceny depending on the value of her services. Shall we defer to IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn?
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 7, 2011 8:18:05 GMT -5
Someone can be working as a maid in a hotel or any number of lowly jobs to have something on paper for the IRS. I once read of a woman who had a day job as a bank teller and a night job as a stripper. Having worked as a teller, I know that such folks get barely above the minimum wage. The teller job, however, provided a valuable way to hide her real activities from family, friends and the taxman. Yea but when this woman was working as a Bank Teller wearing only a G String and Bra Pasties had to have her family wondering a little don't you think??
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