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Post by ungenteel on Jan 4, 2011 2:56:39 GMT -5
Nitwit republicans are standing in line to thump the concept of repealing last years health care legislation. With all the problems we face as a nation, it seems ludicrous for them to focus on beating this this dead horse. Dems still control the senate and President Obama still holds a veto pen. Will the repubs, with their new found house majority, engage in meaningful legislation over the next 2 years, or are we looking at nothing but cheap political posturing for the next 2 years?
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Post by vl on Jan 4, 2011 7:35:49 GMT -5
Have you seen ANY Republican stand up and say-- "Let's repeal Gramm Leach Bliley. It was bad legislation that has caused the nation great harm. We can see that ALL aspects of finance must be segregated and regulated so they cannot hold the nation hostage for profit again."
When ANYONE who can lead the abolition of the WORST ACT in history finally admits this, wake me up. In the interim... I hope you are writing the President daily- telling him to Close the Banks and Eliminate Wall Street. If CREDIT was pulled from Banks and re-assigned with full regulatory oversight and confined within state boundaries... we'd be creating small businesses, jobs and a recovery RIGHT NOW.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 4, 2011 7:40:44 GMT -5
I caught that in my newspaper yesterday and on one of my news sites, glad you brought it up. Looks like more of the same....and to show the POTUS who is boss, they are going to bring it up in the house for a vote a few days before he, POTUS, is scheduled to address Congress...not that that is a big deal but a little "in your face " gives you a insite of what we the public, all of us, both sides political, are going to be faced with for the next two years. I know a lot of new faces here and they all seem to have not read the book of" How to make friends and influence people", their reading habits seems more on the order of 'Mad Comics "  |
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Jan 4, 2011 9:22:01 GMT -5
One of the problems we face is last years healthcare bill....
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 4, 2011 9:27:57 GMT -5
It will take Rand Paul and friends a few months to get the arm twisting of fellow Republicans to have any effect.
There will be a lot of behind the scenes posturing that will be 3 times as important as the oral political rhetoric we will be "privileged" to hear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 17:39:40 GMT -5
Nitwit republicans are standing in line to thump the concept of repealing last years health care legislation. With all the problems we face as a nation, it seems ludicrous for them to focus on beating this this dead horse.
I'm thinking that the repubs will keep driving health care to the forefront but you really can't blame them (at least I don't). More than anything else they want control of the government & what better way to get it than to keep bringing up something as unpopular as the health care bill. They got control of the house because of it & now they want control of the white house & Congress. The only thing that I can think of better to be talking about would be a video of everyone at a death board giving the thumb down signal & then filming the person they gave it on actually dieing.
Actually as I remember it the Dems like to get a hot issue & bring it up a lot too......
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Post by verrip1 on Jan 4, 2011 20:42:47 GMT -5
I think it's rather rude to call our President a "dead horse".
A little decorum, please!
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Post by djrick on Jan 4, 2011 21:44:50 GMT -5
The hypocrisy is breathtaking if nothing else... www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/20/gop-spending-cuts_n_798986.htmlGOP Lawmakers Calling For Federal Wage Cuts Boosting Payrolls In Own Offices _ Firebrand Republican Michele Bachmann of Minnesota has for months pushed legislation to freeze what she calls "unconscionable" federal salaries. Meanwhile, her own payroll jumped 16 percent between 2007, when she came to Congress, and 2009. _ Rep. Jason Chaffetz, the Utah Republican set to chair the House subcommittee overseeing the federal work force, says Washington must "figure out how to do more with less." But the freshman lawmaker gave his own employees an average raise of about 9 percent this year. _ Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who has long criticized federal pay, has overseen an average jump of 8 percent per year in his office employee costs between 2006, his first full year in the Senate, and 2009. |
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Post by verrip1 on Jan 4, 2011 21:49:51 GMT -5
Cherry-picked data in a vacuum. How breathtakingly political. And no ThinkProgress link!
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Post by stayput on Jan 4, 2011 22:11:33 GMT -5
Nitwit republicans are standing in line to thump the concept of repealing last years health care legislation. With all the problems we face as a nation, it seems ludicrous for them to focus on beating this this dead horse. Dems still control the senate and President Obama still holds a veto pen. Will the repubs, with their new found house majority, engage in meaningful legislation over the next 2 years, or are we looking at nothing but cheap political posturing for the next 2 years? I think that the GOP plans to keep their promise to vote for a repeal, letting America see exactly which Congressmen/Senators vote for/against repeal; tear it apart piece by (unconstitutional) piece; completely defund every aspect of it (take out all of the bullets), and finally sit back and watch the Supreme Court rule it unconstitutional which it is. Sorry Commies. Medicine is a privilege, not a right.  |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 4, 2011 22:17:44 GMT -5
Medicine is a privilege, not a right. ...agreed... I contend that healthcare is not a "life, liberty, ..." issue, but a quality of life issue... |
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Post by djrick on Jan 4, 2011 22:33:52 GMT -5
I love the Elephants and Asses who have bankrupted our nation.
Who helps Sarah Palin paint every disagreement as an existential threat to her base's culture?
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 4, 2011 22:57:05 GMT -5
such silly BS LOL  -------------------------------------------------------- " Re: republicans to beat a dead horse for 2 years « Reply #9 Today at 10:11pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 2:56am, ungenteel wrote: Nitwit republicans are standing in line to thump the concept of repealing last years health care legislation. With all the problems we face as a nation, it seems ludicrous for them to focus on beating this this dead horse. Dems still control the senate and President Obama still holds a veto pen. Will the repubs, with their new found house majority, engage in meaningful legislation over the next 2 years, or are we looking at nothing but cheap political posturing for the next 2 years? I think that the GOP plans to keep their promise to vote for a repeal, letting America see exactly which Congressmen/Senators vote for/against repeal; tear it apart piece by (unconstitutional) piece; completely defund every aspect of it (take out all of the bullets), and finally sit back and watch the Supreme Court rule it unconstitutional which it is. Sorry Commies. Medicine is a privilege, not a right." Right , until you find your kid in a Hospital Bed and you found your Insurence is not going to cover the operation / or same scenario but lo and behold you have been out of work for the past year and three months, Cobra was to expensive, Insurence long gone and you know your kid won't get the real care that he needs to get well...and commie?? There are no more COMMIES ...LOL |
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Post by warsaw (banned) on Jan 4, 2011 23:09:36 GMT -5
As we speak, more people are against repeal than for it. By all means, let's discuss what's in it, and more will like it.
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Post by warsaw (banned) on Jan 4, 2011 23:11:36 GMT -5
Courts have already ruled medical care is a right- might as well get everyone to pay something and get cheaper care, not ER Care.
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Post by ungenteel on Jan 4, 2011 23:19:04 GMT -5
"Sorry Commies. Medicine is a privilege, not a right."
With that kind of twisted social Darwinistic response .. I suspect that some day .. you will get get .. an unfortunate reminder of just who constitutes the "fittest"
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 5, 2011 7:43:16 GMT -5
Medicine is a privilege, not a right. ...agreed... I contend that healthcare is not a "life, liberty, ..." issue, but a quality of life issue... Driving a new '11 Beemer vs my 11 year old Camry is also a quality of life issue. |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 5, 2011 10:19:24 GMT -5
...agreed... I contend that healthcare is not a "life, liberty, ..." issue, but a quality of life issue... Driving a new '11 Beemer vs my 11 year old Camry is also a quality of life issue. ...agreed... |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 5, 2011 10:23:30 GMT -5
Courts have already ruled medical care is a right- might as well get everyone to pay something and get cheaper care, not ER Care. ...courts have also ruled that 21 is the legal drinking age... might as well get everyone to pay something and get cheaper liquor... (...see the problem with the argument?) |
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Jan 5, 2011 11:44:01 GMT -5
"Medicine is a privilege, not a right." So is meat that is handled correctly and is less likely to kill us, but we don't fire the USDA. Here is a link to Federally Funded Programs funding-programs.idilogic.aidpage.com/ can you tell us which ones are rights and not privileges? |
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Post by burnsattornincan on Jan 5, 2011 11:58:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the link Mr. ChiTownVenture. I'll get back to you about it when I'm finished scrolling through the 8 mile long list.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Jan 5, 2011 12:06:09 GMT -5
My point is that we have Federally Funded programs that are important but may or may not be considered a right as defined in the constitution.
I feel that Health Care is substantially more important then a large majority of programs on that list.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Jan 5, 2011 12:23:42 GMT -5
Sorry Mr. ChiTownVenture, still scrolling....
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 5, 2011 13:04:34 GMT -5
...courts have also ruled that 21 is the legal drinking age... might as well get everyone to pay something and get cheaper liquor... (...see the problem with the argument?) Personally....I don't. Where do I sign the petition? But then again, a federal mandate that everyone purchase our products would be a financial windfall for my company. |
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Post by Shirina on Jan 5, 2011 19:41:01 GMT -5
I think it's hysterical that conservatives will whine and moan about people dying from mythical "death panels" but have no problems whatsoever simply letting a person die or live for years in pain because they don't have any or enough insurance to cover the costs. Commies? Well, you got the first three letters right. How about COMpassion? I get so sick of this "it's a privilege not a right." Well how do you define a "privilege?" Is your life a "privilege?" Because if it's not, then allowing people to die or go untreated when fully functional hospitals are just down the street is an atrocity and a crime. We're the only industrialized nation in the world without NHS. I wonder why that is? Greed? Selfishness? Primitive thinking? I have no idea. You can slam me for being a liberal, a bleeding heart, or a commie until your fingers fall right out of their joints, but I will stand firm on this issue until we finally have affordable, accessible health care ... or I die. Whichever comes first. Oh, and the emoticon was a nice touch. Just shows what a nasty, insensitive culture we have created for ourselves. Quality of life issue? Are you kidding me? What a bunch of crap. |
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Post by marjar on Jan 5, 2011 22:57:10 GMT -5
Have you seen ANY Republican stand up and say-- "Let's repeal Gramm Leach Bliley. It was bad legislation that has caused the nation great harm. We can see that ALL aspects of finance must be segregated and regulated so they cannot hold the nation hostage for profit again." I'm amazed at how many are unaware of that piece of legislation, and the damage the repeal has caused. |
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