Woman soccer team disqu for wear Hejab

[deziloooooo]

Ok heres a article some may like to weigh in on, disqualification of the Iranian Woman soccer team from qualifying trials for next summer Olympics because of the garb they wore, the Hejab.
Match was played in Jordan, the official who banned them was from Bahrain . They had played one match wearing the Hejab with no problems or complaints..

It seems this has been brought up before and the ruling body has made asjustments for those of the Muslim faith , allowing long pants instead of shorts and a head covering that is almost the same as the whole "Hejab"..seems they did not want to follow those rules.

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Iranian women soccer players rejected FIFA's customized headwear and insisted on donning the traditional hijab for a match against Jordan.
Their insistence on not following FIFA's dress code gave the team they were supposed to play against, Jordan, an easy win. [...]

Despite shunning religious symbols, FIFA accommodates Muslim women and gives them the choice of wearing long pants instead of shorts.
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There seems to always be more to the story when you read all of it. At first I was siding with the Iranian team but after seeing all the reporting, think right decision was made.
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www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2011/06/iran-to-protest-disqualification-of-women-soccer-players-for-wearing-hejab.html
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Iran's women['s] football team was prevented from taking the pitch against Jordan on Friday in the second qualifying round [for the] 2012 London Olympics, due to "inappropriate" clothing, despite having played the first round with the same clothing. The decision which was made by the Bahraini official of the match left the Iranian players in tears.
Despite the decision, the Iranian women took to the pitch in the Jordanian capital city, Amman, sang the national anthem, and then kissed the Iranian flag before walking off the pitch. The Jordanian team were awarded 3-0 winners.

Iranian officials have vowed to contest the decision and are to file a complaint against the Bahraini official, who banned the country's women football team from playing the Olympics qualifier match, over their hijab.

"We have already held talks with the president of the International Federation of Association Football [FIFA] about the participation of Iranian women in matches with full Islamic hijab," said head of the Iranian Football Federation (IFF) Ali Kaffashian. "Unfortunately, however, I do not know why the official in charge of the match refused to let our team play," ISNA quoted the IFF chief as saying on Saturday. "Therefore, we will file a complaint to FIFA against the official in charge of the games," the official added.

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Well, I don't know anything about this, if it is political or what, AND I found it strange that they were allowed to participate up to the level they played to, since.... if I read it right, the hijab thing was banned in 2010. Just glanced, think it said that.

What I DO know, and it is from having 5 kids that played sports for 30 years-- no jewelry, no variation from approved dress-- NOTHING, and it was for safety and nothing more. Our girl teams would always have girls with tape on their ears where they had to remove new pierced earrings.. We the parents would tell them no, they did it any way, ended up looking stupid with tape on their ears. BELLY piercings were the pits, since coaches could not see them, and I saw 2 girls get their skin ripped REALLY bad sliding in to home by "hidden" belly piercings. There ARE safety rules, and a head dress would CERTAINLY be dangerous in sports.
My question is how they got that far. Seriously-- even at BYU-- the most modest university in the USA-- kids still swim in approved swim gear. That hijab thing for sports is stupid.

[deziloooooo]

Read the article, it explains that this is not new, they did make a exception, no shorts, can wear long pants and there is a head covering, covers all the hair just not the neck and below.
They knew the rules, the first match I beleive they were just a bit confused , possible kicked it upstairs to see what the top officials feelings were before taking action.

Problem is the official who disqualified the team was from Bahrain and for anyone who knows the recent history, Iran was in support of the Shia workers who were asking for more freedoms from the Sunni leaders of Bahrain, thus politics enterers into it.
To bad another official from another country ddin't make the official call and notification.

[burnsattornincan]

We have already held talks with the president of the International Federation of Association Football [FIFA] about the participation of Iranian women in matches with full Islamic hijab

FIFA president Sepp Blatter, the very one accused of corruption and kickbacks for preferential consideration of where major tournaments would be played? I thought he would be in jail by now. Oh yeah, this is age of brazen theft by power figures of all stripes. It is high time to send a message, a very stern message.

[❤ mollymouser ❤]

It sounds like FIFA offered a reasonable accommodation, and that the Iranian team declined that accommodation and suffered the consequences.... no doubt some sort of political statement. I feel sorry for the athletes who probably wanted to compete.

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I feel sorry for any religious people that can't do things because of weird rules. But-- they agree to live by the rules. So be it. Or maybe they don't have a choice over there. Probably not. I would for sure get stoned to death if I lived in that area. Or shot. I'd rather be shot, I think.

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

FIFA president Sepp Blatter, the very one accused of corruption and kickbacks for preferential consideration of where major tournaments would be played? I thought he would be in jail by now. Oh yeah, this is age of brazen theft by power figures of all stripes. It is high time to send a message, a very stern message.

Of course FIFA is run by powerful central European interests.

[mmhmm]

If the team decided to purposefully break the rules, they deserved to be disqualified, in my opinion. It is not necessary to play soccer at this level. Challenging it is, but not necessary. If the women want to play competitively amongst countries from all over the world, they're going to have to make some concessions. It sounds like a fair alternative was offered them which they rejected. The choice was theirs, as are the consequences, IMO.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 7, 2011 7:49:21 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

If the team decided to purposefully break the rules, they deserved to be disqualified, in my opinion. It is not necessary to play soccer at this level. Challenging it is, but not necessary. If the women want to play competitively amongst countries from all over the world, they're going to have to make some concessions. It sounds like a fair alternative was offered them which they rejected. The choice was theirs, as are the consequences, IMO.

Agree , and when I first came on the article my first reaction was why disqualify for such a thing, just as a reaction against someones faith beliefs, makes no sense to me , again over reacting to the mood of the times so posted after just skimming the article.
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However, after getting emotional about it, something I try not to do , and I read the article again, closely, the one I was upset with was me, for not being careful in my reading, getting all the facts , just acting from my gut, and realizing the doofus here was ME.

I could have deleted the whole thing, possible should have , I expect some comments along the lines, "You got that right ", and could have slinked off quietly , head between my knees, hoping no one had noticed.

However , the thread was up and possible the lesson is, try to keep emotions in check, get the facts before you just comment and get riled up. The first reading of a topic many times is incorrect, there seems to be more to these events that first meets the eye in most cases.

Sorry for those who are wondering why this thread in the first place, it's so cut and dried.
Nothing sinister about the ruling, which I agree, after I got all the facts, nothing wrong with the ruling at all.
Just a shame for the young ladies who put so much work , and sweat into making this national team.

So me bad, again, ....sorry.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

I wonder who made the decision for the women to dress this way; the players, the coach, or the goverment?

[deziloooooo]

Jun 7, 2011 18:44:37 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

I wonder who made the decision for the women to dress this way; the players, the coach, or the goverment?

I'm am sure the government...possible the players too, some of them.

Not all Iranian females are for this type of dress...however in the climate of the times and the way the clergy who control the country are, I think the wearing of the head covering is more or less accepted, and the same only more so in Saudia Arabia were they have organized police types whoe's only job, enforce the clothing mores...and they walk around with whips to enforce it and of course, they are all males.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

I agree it's most likely the government. Most Olympic caliber athletes and their coaches care more about the game than making political/religious statements.