Iran tests Nuke Warhead Design

[wyouser]

"Iran ha built and tested all the elements of a nuclear weaapon desigbn similar to the bomb dropped on Nagasaki, Japan in 1945, and is actively working to fit it onto a ballistic missile capable of reaching Israel, " www.newsmax.com/KenTimmerman/Timmerman-Iran-nuclear-Amano/2011/06/02/id/398661 Any thouights on the reaction of Israelis? Also might need to be concerned about the reaction of Saudi Arabia. They have expressed extreme displeasure about Iran and Iranian involvement in turmoil around the Kingdom. They have sent troops to Bahrain to prop up the monarchy there and have expressed lack of confidence in the USA doing anything about Iran. If this fires something up ..what about energy prices? any thoughts?

[ed1066]

Liberals? What happened to the "peaceful electricity" explanation you swallowed??

[maui1]

what iran does is their business...........if, and when they do something to some other country, then, and only then, can that country kick their ass all the way back to the stone age..........but until then, what business is it of any-ones, what a sovereign country does?

aiming a missile in ones direction can be determined to be a 'bad act' and that can trigger the above ass kicking.......so we better get our missile defense, surveillance and recording of that surveillance in order to defend the ass kicking we give iran, if and when we (or israel) do.

[wyouser]

As reported , it would appear unlikely we (the USA) will do anything. However, the the economic impact to our economy from someone there doing something about the Iranian bomb might be pretty severe, don,t you think?

[maui1]

However, the the economic impact to our economy from someone there doing something about the Iranian bomb might be pretty severe, don,t you think?


do you think that this severity would be reason enough for us to infringe on the rights of others? just because we are not prepared for any world risk, is not reason enough to take preemptive action to make up for our lack of foresight.

[maui1]

god knows how dependent we are on oil, and have been for the last 40 years..........

but just because we did nothing in these last 40 years to get better prepared, should every country in the world have to suffer for our inadequacies?

[wyouser]

It seems to me that no matter how severe any consequences might be..The United States is not going to anything preemptive about Iran. I am merely asking for thoughts about what happens IF someone else acts over there. I agree with the comment regarding dependance on foreign oil and our 39 year lack of an energy policy. It would seem we may have a leash on Israeal responding..but our we overlooking a potential Saudi pre-emptive strike?

[ed1066]

Jun 3, 2011 12:15:16 GMT -5 wyouser said:

It seems to me that no matter how severe any consequences might be..The United States is not going to anything preemptive about Iran. I am merely asking for thoughts about what happens IF someone else acts over there. I agree with the comment regarding dependance on foreign oil and our 39 year lack of an energy policy. It would seem we may have a leash on Israeal responding..but our we overlooking a potential Saudi pre-emptive strike?

I pray someone does, since clearly our administration is on the side of Iran...

[maui1]

we have no (real) control over what other countries do or do not do, and really should not care unless we have a mutually beneficial treaty with them, that outlines for everyone, in detail, what each countries obligations are to each other, in that treaty.

again, if we take care of our business, it should be none of business what others do, or do not do.

the great thing about america is, that................. we can make, produce, grow, manufacture, and think of, anything that we might ever need, and should at least have those options in place should they be needed, due to outside influences.

the fact that we have these resources, like no other country in the world, to do the above, but don't, should not be reason for other countries to suffer because of our shortsightedness.

[wyouser]

Jun 3, 2011 12:42:23 GMT -5 @maui1 said:

we have no (real) control over what other countries do or do not do, and really should not care unless we have a mutually beneficial treaty with them, that outlines for everyone, in detail, what each countries obligations are to each other, in that treaty.

again, if we take care of our business, it should be none of business what others do, or do not do.

the great thing about america is, that................. we can make, produce, grow, manufacture, and think of, anything that we might ever need, and should at least have those options in place should they be needed, due to outside influences.

/the fact that we have these resources, like no other country in the world, to do the above, but don't, should not be reason for other countries to suffer because of our shortsightedness./

Perhaps a pre-emptive strike against politicians continuing this "shortsightedness would be in order???

[maui1]

why is it that israel, that does not have the resources we do, but has to be prepared to survive, do, and we, who have all the resources in the world, and don't really have to do anything to survive (so we think), don't?

if we are strong at home, we will not be in every other's country's business. we would be setting an example for all countries on how to peacefully exist, by example, and not by force, as we are doing now.

[maui1]

Perhaps a pre-emptive strike against politicians continuing this "shortsightedness would be in order???


i am all for this.........and i would call that "pre-emptive strike" term limits. take away their longevity foundation and you take away their power, which is rightfully ours.

[wyouser]

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Iran is setting up missile sites in Venezuela aimed straight at the USA. Not Israel, the USA. A bit closer to home. SO-- what say ye about Iran and nukes? Dozens, if not hundreds, of articles posted about what Iran wants for Israel and her mainly Christian friend the USA...
I'm in the southern part of the USA-- would just as soon Iran does not have nukes....bad enough we have Hamas and Hezbollah sneaking in through Mexico.. time to get real, maybe?? Just MAYBE?? FINALLY?

[deziloooooo]

Jun 3, 2011 11:14:07 GMT -5 @maui1 said:

what iran does is their business...........if, and when they do something to some other country, then, and only then, can that country kick their ass all the way back to the stone age..........but until then, what business is it of any-ones, what a sovereign country does?

aiming a missile in ones direction can be determined to be a 'bad act' and that can trigger the above ass kicking.......so we better get our missile defense, surveillance and recording of that surveillance in order to defend the ass kicking we give iran, if and when we (or israel) do.

Normally if one has a nuc or two and your enemy has , or at least is suppose to have 150/200...the one or two, the normal thought is eeehhh, no biggie really, annoying , a bit of a worry but really, one, two...we have...

However , in a country/State such as Israel, 6 million Jews AND 1.2 Million Arab Israeli's and then another million all the others, clustered in certain areas, no land size ..knowing the rhetoric of leadership of the billigerant one, the paranoia of and how much they dspise and hate the exhistence of...one or two is all one needs.

Granted , if attacked the country attacking, Iran is who I am speaking, would be pretty much devestated...millions killed, cities gone, but the nation would still be there in some form.

Israel as Israel would have been gone, so while it would be a good feeling in a way in the form of payback, that is not what it is about so leadership, in Israel has to plan and do what it had to do to see that that scenario does not come about, for the survival of the State and it's people and as a side benefit foor the millions of Iranians who would otherwise perish, as well as all the fallout throughout the area, think Chenoble, so that scenario does not come about.

For those who might say, well it is terrible, but if it is a fait accompli, Iran attacking Israel before their subs, planes have reached Iran, why botherretaliate, as terrible as it is, take one for the globe..

Don't forget it was the same with us and the Soviets. All out attack, we were basically gone as who we were but no question we would get our comeuppance and the same thought was on the Soviets side too.

"We are going down the tubes , on our way already, your coming along with us for the ride"

[handyman2]

With the quality of Irans development program it could be very likely that rocket will go straight up and straight back down. That would solve a lot of problems. Russia is now losing patience with Iran so they may not be able to get much help there. We know everything Iran is doing and I expect there will be plenty of warning time to take action.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 3, 2011 15:33:29 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

Iran is setting up missile sites in Venezuela aimed straight at the USA. Not Israel, the USA. A bit closer to home. SO-- what say ye about Iran and nukes? Dozens, if not hundreds, of articles posted about what Iran wants for Israel and her mainly Christian friend the USA...
I'm in the southern part of the USA-- would just as soon Iran does not have nukes....bad enough we have Hamas and Hezbollah sneaking in through Mexico.. time to get real, maybe?? Just MAYBE?? FINALLY?

They are srtting up missle sites, why have no idea. The article I am going to post suggests they , Argentina, might fire missls at any one Iran is in a shooting war with..being attacked. Long way away, no nuclar war heads..just munitions for now, how accurate, and if you think that if for some reason we, the USA got into something with Iran, Argentina would send anythin our way, beyond the verbal possible in say the UN, and a verbal can be tuned out, In feel you can rest easy, dumb they are not, Chavez knows his limitations.

As far as Israel , they are big boys, I am sure they are aware , and feel if a legitimate threat will take what action necessary so the threat goes away.

As far as Az being a target for a missle from Argentina..now Krickett I am sure Az is a vluable piece of property I am sure, but of all the targets to pick?? Sleep tight Amber, nothing to worry about.

What is interesting is that it is , according to this article, Iran who is paying for this little adventure, many millions, plus personnel, valuable resourcs and they are broke. Elections are in a year, Iran.

I wonder if a new President, even if similer in party as this one, might look at this adventure and say,

"How much for what. In where? Argentina? We are in Argentina? Aimed at who ? The USA? Was he nuts..we have a missle base in of all places South America and we might want to start somthing with the USA?? Close it down, quietly, make like we were never there, go out the back way..make like it never happened."

Good scenario to me.