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Post by decoy409 on Jun 3, 2011 8:37:34 GMT -5
Mystifying hey. Wel it is not mystifying to those that are out and about and keep track of the many facets in which entail this GIGANTIC mess. It's simply a matter of 1st grade math where Greater vs Less plays the top card. Oh yes I read the whole article and those that belive in job growth that has returned,those that belives it will and those that believe it won't. I like watching the numbers. One of my spots is watching the so called reported pick up in jobs,and then looking at the many that are lost daily,monthly. Have you noticed that your media steers away from the reports as to the jobs lost for the most part. Similar as to those that have simply fell out of things when it comes to unemployment claims. That one is a big kicker all in it's own. Want to run some numbers? Here is a small example to do so by. You may have to 'refresh' the page as this is one they are trying to quell. www.dailyjobcuts.com/Follow that up 'once again' here, The Geography of a Recession www.latoyaegwuekwe.com/geographyofarecession.htmlJune 2,2011 Shrinking work force mystifies economists WASHINGTON — Where did all the workers go? The labor force — those who have a job or are looking for one — is getting smaller, even though the economy is growing and steadily adding jobs. That trend defies the rules of a normal economic recovery. community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mobile/?type=story&id=2015219513&st_app=ip_news_lite&st_ver=1.2
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Post by usaone on Jun 3, 2011 8:46:46 GMT -5
No ones mystified. Its the baby boomers retiring. Yaaaaawn.
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 3, 2011 8:49:29 GMT -5
Looks like the peole are waking up to BAD reports. Those as yourself can continue your relentless b.s. but TRUTH 'always' finds it's way.
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Post by Driftr on Jun 3, 2011 8:50:38 GMT -5
No ones mystified. Its the baby boomers retiring. As an accountant I appreciate the consistency.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Jun 3, 2011 8:51:29 GMT -5
or unemployment benefits expiring.
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Post by lifewasgood on Jun 3, 2011 8:52:57 GMT -5
Tragic Show, Baby Boomer's working at Wal-mart and McDonald's, didn't you hear about the 50 thousand new Micky D jobs. The average age worker at McD is now 29, a decade ago it was 22. OooooooYaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, not to mention McD's got a free pass on Obama Care.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Jun 3, 2011 8:55:31 GMT -5
No ones mystified. Its the baby boomers retiring. Yaaaaawn. I thought the Baby Boomers were staying employed because of their losses in the markets. I know my dad has to work even though he is past retirement age and technically he is already a chemical engineer that is retired from an Oil company.
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 3, 2011 8:59:36 GMT -5
One heck of a write up this way. As discussed the numbers are slamming home as to 'opps,we made a mistake' and that old trick is no longer working. Just look at the messy trail of these so called factual reports that have been coming out for the past several years and before. The crush has been on.
Yeah,old McD's is a good one. Why with well over 11,000 manufacturing plants now gone out of town over the past 10 years and those that resort to struggle with less (as their jobs have been stripped) take the old McD's job,that certainly does NOTHING for the house payment and utilities (which are up in the median household by 12% avg. across the board now) much less feed their family.
And the ripples from such which 'are' occuring are masked to support what?
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Post by lifewasgood on Jun 3, 2011 9:08:52 GMT -5
But McD's pays dividends, are they two big to fail?
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Post by usaone on Jun 3, 2011 9:17:20 GMT -5
We need low skill jobs. Unemployment for the college educated is 4%.
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Post by lifewasgood on Jun 3, 2011 9:22:29 GMT -5
Ahhhhh, traded textiles and furniture jobs for flipping burgers. I get it, how foolish of me, and McD's pays dividends. The for the uneducated low life's must continue.
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 3, 2011 9:23:47 GMT -5
You need to stop pumping your puppet theatre talk USA. I call you out today. And I do so because all that I have read from you is based on nothing more than stupid talk based on unrealism.
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Post by usaone on Jun 3, 2011 9:36:31 GMT -5
You guys are living in the past.
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 3, 2011 9:41:14 GMT -5
Yeah,you just keep adding the margarine calling it butter. Your old ways are longer valid. You sound like you talk a good game and then you flop, Quote #13 - 'The good news is that the stock markets do not necessarily reflect or follow the above. Those with the proper mix of stocks and funds will do well over the long run.' (end) You call $12.8 TRILLION and counting PUMPED into the market at the expense of TAXPAYERS here in the US good news? Proper mix? A mix of what? NO REGULATION and the REGULATORS being REGULATED by the very same ones that they are suppose to be REGULATING. Sorry to say but you puppet talk is no longer valid. Markets have nothing to do with a structured society as in housing,commercial,employment,etc. Well how the hell do you think a market is valid if you do not have CONSUMERS.
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Post by lifewasgood on Jun 3, 2011 9:41:17 GMT -5
Fuel prices are a dollar higher than a year ago. But that is not inflation, just growth! Wake up and smell the coffee, O wait, can we afford coffee with the latest price hikes? inflation!
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Post by usaone on Jun 3, 2011 9:41:32 GMT -5
Not you XYZ ;D
I was talking about Lifemaucoy.
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 3, 2011 9:42:58 GMT -5
Markets have nothing to do with a structured society as in housing,commercial,employment,etc. Well how the hell do you think a market is valid if you do not have CONSUMERS.
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Post by lifewasgood on Jun 3, 2011 9:48:24 GMT -5
WOW damn this is just when I need the cry baby sign and it is gone.
Moderates, please put it back!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2011 10:03:23 GMT -5
Some keep waiting for the axe to fall......
It may eventually......
But until then, i for one, will continue to reap the harvest of gains from companies that pay me to own them
Yes....there are problems
Our growth rate has stagnated....and anything under 3% will not provide the jobs we so sorely need
The next 90-120 days are going to tell a story....are we going to grow up, and start dealing with the debt....or are we going to continue to kick the can further down the street
Until you know that answer.....be careful with investments
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Post by reasonfreedom on Jun 3, 2011 10:28:03 GMT -5
Is everyone still waiting for that massive explosion of inflation to occur? Sorry, not going to happen any time soon. We have all the pieces in place to slip back into technical recession. For the average person the recession continues. Wages are down, jobs are down, government at all levels is up and grabbing more and more money, housing is way down and therefore the average net worth is way down, illegal aliens continue to pour into the country by the millions per year and take jobs and money as government denies there is a problem and under reports the number in the country by at least 10-20mil, as well as what they cost our economy and their impact on our culture, the country continues to mired in a semi-socialistic takeover, etc, etc. As for the most liberal cities in the country, San Fran, Seattle, and Portland, well they just happen to be the least diverse in the entire country and symptomatic of all that is wrong in the USA. (it is easy to be so liberal and welcoming if you have no illegals) The news media continues to be delusional and cheerlead for a totally failed administration to the point of actively trying to control what people see and hear for the political benefit of the liberals. Stocks are currently in limbo with earnings over and the summer starting. We are no doubt in for a correction this summer. The good news is that the stock markets do not necessarily reflect or follow the above. Those with the proper mix of stocks and funds will do well over the long run. The BUBBLE MAVENS that continue to jump on every bubble band wagon will continue to get whipsawed as usual. A severe economy like this will hake at least 5-7 years to roar back. Perhaps 10 years if we do not MAKE A LEADERSHIP CHANGE AT THE TOP. It is time to hunker down for the correction, but not to mindlessly bail and run. And.......yes......THERE IS NO INFLATION. no inflation? Seriously, have you been to the grocery store and checked meat prices? I am guessing you don't rent, but mine went up 7% this year. Granted gas prices are fluctuating, but they are still high. Oh you meant inflation in non-necessities, silly me I thought necessities would be the import picture.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Jun 3, 2011 10:49:20 GMT -5
Back for one last post. Well lets see, gas in my area is down about 25 cents over the past few weeks. Does that mean that we are in the middle of massive deflation? No, it is simply the anecdotal report of one person on an internet chat room. No, I meant real inflation as measured over more than a day or two, and compared to the real baseline of what is normal over some historical period. Obviously not a very good post for your last one. If you had read my post you would notice that I said it fluctuates but is still high. I am just curious if you think that gas at a national average of $3.784 is a descent price in accordance with the 2.3% average wage increase. That gas is at $3.784 must mean that is close to where it should be with no inflation right? Didn't you say something about reality a few post ago?
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 3, 2011 11:40:26 GMT -5
Reasonfreedom, just keep throwing the goods at them. Thjey can not help to defend this b.s. that they care for everybody to so badly to believe. After all,did the poster not state, #20 - 'I know that. I am off this thread now.'
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Post by lifewasgood on Jun 3, 2011 12:59:00 GMT -5
wxyz: Long term, say back in the late 90's when gas was less than a buck and now is over $3.50 today. You do the math and tell me what the normal rate of inflation is over the long term. Or is this too much history and we need to take a time period say from last year? With that it is only up a dollar from a year ago. What gas does in a couple a weeks is just noise for long term investors. Unless you have gone day trading on us!
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 3, 2011 15:16:26 GMT -5
Well it did not mystifie the market today.
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Post by resume on Jun 4, 2011 21:38:20 GMT -5
Well stated usa1. And what is wrong with having a better class of worker flipping the burgers? Skilled / Professional workers face the same type of job market changes as the rest of society. If a skill set is facing shrinking demand, then the choice is adapt or refuse to. And now: We return you to the scheduled program.
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 4, 2011 22:37:29 GMT -5
Nothing like the old puppets and how they simply know not better.
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Post by dumdeedoe on Jun 8, 2011 19:27:12 GMT -5
Hum lets see.... hp.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobsearch.ftl?lang=en&location=12232400 + jobs in the USA posted for HP alone...lack of education is killing the US right now... Most companies are offering education as a job benefit, but still most positions are not being filled... Nature is a Bitch and if we do not keep up we will be culled... I know 2 friends that have gotten their masters degrees from their employers. And they started in a entry level call service... So I have a hard time blaming companies for this problem,because most of them are doing everything they can to get their employees educated to keep up in this changing world...
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Post by usaone on Jun 9, 2011 12:34:22 GMT -5
Hum lets see.... hp.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobsearch.ftl?lang=en&location=12232400 + jobs in the USA posted for HP alone...lack of education is killing the US right now... Most companies are offering education as a job benefit, but still most positions are not being filled... Nature is a Bitch and if we do not keep up we will be culled... I know 2 friends that have gotten their masters degrees from their employers. And they started in a entry level call service... So I have a hard time blaming companies for this problem,because most of them are doing everything they can to get their employees educated to keep up in this changing world... Exactly!!
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Post by decoy409 on Jun 14, 2011 8:45:45 GMT -5
No! This must be the one that has caused the MAGIC!
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