Dr Këvórkían has died at age 83

[chiver78]

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43265235/ns/us_news-life/

Jack Kevorkian, convicted in assisted suicides, dies at 83
Doctor put controversy of euthanasia on the world stage

Dr. Jack Kevorkian, the Michigan pathologist convicted and jailed for participating in assisted suicides of terminally ill people, died early Friday, his lawyer told local media.

Kevorkian, 83, died at Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Mich., where he had been hospitalized for about two weeks with kidney and heart problems.

The lawyer, Mayer Morganroth, said it appears Kevorkian suffered a pulmonary thrombosis when a blood clot from his leg broke free and lodged in his heart, according to the Detroit Free Press.

"It was peaceful. He didn't feel a thing," Morganroth told the newspaper.

Morganroth told the Free Press that the hospital staff, doctors and nurses said Kevorkian's passing was "a tremendous loss and I agree with them. He did so much."

No plans for memorial
Morganroth told the paper that he doubts anyone will assume Kevorkian's role in assisted suicide: "Who else would take those kind of risks?"

Morganroth said there are no plans for any memorial.

Kevorkian, believed to have assisted in 130 suicides, was convicted of second-degree murder in 1999 and sentenced to 10-25 years in prison but was released in 2007. Last year, he was the subject of "You Don't Know Jack," an HBO movie starring Al Pacino.

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Jun 3, 2011 8:07:55 GMT -5 Lady Gaga Gaga Snerd said:

"It was peaceful. He didn't feel a thing,"

How do we know his death was peaceful or that he didn't feel a thing? How does anyone know that? It may appear peaceful and painless to us from the outside, but we don't know what sensations, thoughts, pains, etc go through someone during the dying process. There could be moments of peace or of sheer terror. We really don't know and won't know until it is our time to find out.

[Sigh}

[chiver78]

Jun 3, 2011 9:14:09 GMT -5 Lady Gaga Gaga Snerd said:

Remember how he was going to "starve" himself in prison? Funny. He never did. Guess he was allowed to change his mind.

I may be reading this wrong, but are you implying that you think it's bad that he gave terminally ill people a way to end their pain, on their own terms?

[privateinvestor]

I may be reading this wrong, but are you implying that you think it's bad that he gave terminally ill people a way to end their pain, on their own terms?


This is a tough question to answer but I was asked a few times by severely wounded to end their lives...and they pleaded with me to shoot them...but I just couldn't do it but do know some other guys who did or just let them alone to die in horrible pain that you would not understand...anyhow these things happen but it may be wrong. And does happen quite a bit in combat...but most don't like to talk about .

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Jun 3, 2011 9:19:20 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jun 3, 2011 9:14:09 GMT -5 Lady Gaga Gaga Snerd said:

Remember how he was going to "starve" himself in prison? Funny. He never did. Guess he was allowed to change his mind.

I may be reading this wrong, but are you implying that you think it's bad that he gave terminally ill people a way to end their pain, on their own terms?

Fortunately, these days we have Advanced Directives. In my opinion, every adult (regardless of age) should have one. That will allow you to call the shots on what's to be done if you are ill, in pain, and unable to speak for yourself. It's something that needs to be talked about with family, as well, so everyone understands your wishes.

[handyman2]

PI is correct it is a hard decision. Although different in combat than in the home or nursing facility. In combat there are times where there is nothing you can do to ease their pain. They are beyond the help of morphine and much of their body scattered in the dust. A time when tough choices are faced. I personally could not do it but would not judge a person who did assist a buddy into final piece. The good thing is that in todays military the wounded can be gotten to a treatment center in most cases very quickly and saved versus when medi-vacs were not availible.
In a facility where there may be other options then I would say let nature take it's course. You put a doctor into a precarious position with his oath by expecting him to go against his commitment.

[privateinvestor]

handyman2 did you know a 52 year old man committed suicide by drowning himself in SF Bay as the cops and firemen watched and some were chatting and smiling while the guy stood in neck deep water for @ 20 minutes and then went under..

The water was off limits for the cops and firemen in Alameda Bay

[handyman2]

Now that is callous. It has been shown that people who are theating suicide are in their way begging for help.

[privateinvestor]

Jun 4, 2011 7:03:04 GMT -5 @toughtimes said:

Ironic, isn't it that the leading advocate for others to commit suicide lived a long life.

Yea but he spent 8+ years in jail...and that is not much of a life since he was in solitary confinement because of threats on his life in prison