Sarah Palin: New Hampshire Timing "Coincidental"

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Yeah right! Sarah Palin just BLEW UP Mitt Romney just hours before he launched his campaign in earnest in New Hampshire.

She shows up in his home town and starts pikcing apart RomneyCare.

Genius? Maybe. "Coincidence"? NOT!

www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56091.html

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

BOSTON — Standing at Bunker Hill, Sarah Palin fired a warning shot at Mitt Romney.

Appealing to the tea party will be “a big challenge for him,” Palin said Thursday.

“Tea party activists are pretty strident in a good way,” Palin said, explaining that they will want “to make sure that we’re not going to have any excuses or perceived political reasons to grow government, because we can’t afford it.”

Palin confirmed that she was referring to Romney’s support of state-supported health care while governor of Massachusetts. Though Palin acknowledged that there was a difference between the federal mandates and the state mandates Romney signed into law, she said the distinction was not enough to satisfy her.

“He makes a good argument there that states’ rights and authority and responsibility allowed in our states makes more sense than big centralized government telling us what to do,” Palin said. “However, even on a state level and a local level, mandates coming from a governing body — it’s tough for a lot of us independent Americans to accept because we have great faith in the private sector and our own families, and our own businessmen and — women making decision for ourselves, not any level of government telling us what to do.”

[chiver78]

Jun 2, 2011 14:14:03 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

She shows up in his home town and starts pikcing apart RomneyCare.

for the record, Boston is not his hometown. he's wasn't born here, his family isn't from here, he no longer lives here, and we don't want him anyway. you can have him.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 2, 2011 14:19:41 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jun 2, 2011 14:14:03 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

She shows up in his home town and starts pikcing apart RomneyCare.

for the record, Boston is not his hometown. he's wasn't born here, his family isn't from here, he no longer lives here, and we don't want him anyway. you can have him.

This is a great example of why a good conservative should never seek to appease liberals with bad policy. The policies destroy the same as if they'd been implemented by a liberal, and the libs still hate them anyway.

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I don't care what Sarah does. LOL, if all she does is pizz them off and keep them on their toes, I'm okay with that.
GO, SARAH!!!!
;D

[chiver78]

Jun 2, 2011 14:40:42 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 2, 2011 14:19:41 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

for the record, Boston is not his hometown. he's wasn't born here, his family isn't from here, he no longer lives here, and we don't want him anyway. you can have him.

This is a great example of why a good conservative should never seek to appease liberals with bad policy. The policies destroy the same as if they'd been implemented by a liberal, and the libs still hate them anyway.

see, that's what's wrong with assuming things based on a partial picture. you'd probably be very surprised to find out that I worked(volunteer) for a prior Romney campaign. at one point, he did have ambitions to make this state better.

I didn't like Romney when he was elected Governor, but I did like that he was able to make a step in the right direction as far as his health care ideas. I came to dislike him because he sold out by flip-flopping his platform to appease whoever he thought would support him more, and now attempts to frame himself as the one that's going to come in and fix everything that Obama is supposedly screwing up.

ETA: what you fail to understand about me, and about some other posters who typically disagree with you like I do, is that I will support the candidate that I feel is going to do the right thing for my country and its citizens - regardless of the letter after his/her name. when I feel that I can't trust a candidate as far as I can throw him, as with Romney, there isn't much that will ever make me vote for him. I realize that all politicians lie, but you have to be really stupid to be caught in your lies.

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Romney would be a FAR better POTUS than Obama. He knows business. Obama has no clue. All Obama knows is some "dream" that does not match reality. He needs to go back to what worked for him. This POTUS stuff is not it. The streets need Obama, maybe, but the country sure does not. He can make videos and give speeches like Van Jones and that gang of anti-American types... the level he REALLY has expertise on.

[cereb]

Jun 2, 2011 14:53:24 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jun 2, 2011 14:40:42 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

This is a great example of why a good conservative should never seek to appease liberals with bad policy. The policies destroy the same as if they'd been implemented by a liberal, and the libs still hate them anyway.

see, that's what's wrong with assuming things based on a partial picture. you'd probably be very surprised to find out that I worked(volunteer) for a prior Romney campaign. at one point, he did have ambitions to make this state better.

I didn't like Romney when he was elected Governor, but I did like that he was able to make a step in the right direction as far as his health care ideas. I came to dislike him because he sold out by flip-flopping his platform to appease whoever he thought would support him more, and now attempts to frame himself as the one that's going to come in and fix everything that Obama is supposedly screwing up.

ETA: what you fail to understand about me, and about some other posters who typically disagree with you like I do, is that I will support the candidate that I feel is going to do the right thing for my country and its citizens - regardless of the letter after his/her name. when I feel that I can't trust a candidate as far as I can throw him, as with Romney, there isn't much that will ever make me vote for him. I realize that all politicians lie, but you have to be really stupid to be caught in your lies.

As another person from MA, I agree completely.

[cereb]

RUN SARA RUN!!!!

[floridayankee]

Jun 2, 2011 14:19:41 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jun 2, 2011 14:14:03 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

She shows up in his home town and starts pikcing apart RomneyCare.

for the record, Boston is not his hometown. he's wasn't born here, his family isn't from here, he no longer lives here, and we don't want him anyway. you can have him.

I do believe that "hometown" can be where you were born, where you were raised, and/or where your currently reside. Now, granted, Romney technically owns a house in Belmont, not Boston but Belmont is a suburb of Boston (had a great Aunt in Watertown...a mere stone throw from Belmont...that we used to visit at least a couple times/month growing up).

Heck...who really cares. Romneycare is going to bury him.

[chiver78]

Jun 2, 2011 15:16:36 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Jun 2, 2011 14:19:41 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

for the record, Boston is not his hometown. he's wasn't born here, his family isn't from here, he no longer lives here, and we don't want him anyway. you can have him.

I do believe that "hometown" can be where you were born, where you were raised, and/or where your currently reside. Now, granted, Romney technically owns a house in Belmont, not Boston but Belmont is a suburb of Boston (had a great Aunt in Watertown...a mere stone throw from Belmont...that we used to visit at least a couple times/month growing up).

Heck...who really cares. Romneycare is going to bury him.

not anymore, floridayankee. he sold his Belmont home back in 2009. he stays with his son on the rare occasions he finds himself within state borders nowadays. that's what I said in my first reply, which you've quoted. Belmont is absolutely a suburb of Boston, and I'm well aware of where in the state it is located, thanks.

the point was, I don't see the irony that Paul does in where Palin chooses to tear Romney up. this is not his hometown, and he's not well-loved around the state these days. I can say with confidence that he will not win the MA primary, if he is still in the race at that time.

[lakhota]

Elisabeth Hasselbeck Rips Sarah Palin

www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/02/elisabeth-hasselbeck-sara_n_870511.html

[upstatemom]

Jun 2, 2011 18:25:50 GMT -5 @lakhota said:

Elisabeth Hasselbeck Rips Sarah Palin

www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/02/elisabeth-hasselbeck-sara_n_870511.html

And we should care what Hasselbeck and the other nobodies on the view have to say? Sorry, never watched it, never will!

[deziloooooo]

Jun 2, 2011 14:14:03 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Yeah right! Sarah Palin just BLEW UP Mitt Romney just hours before he launched his campaign in earnest in New Hampshire.

She shows up in his home town and starts pikcing apart RomneyCare.

Genius? Maybe. "Coincidence"? NOT!

www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56091.html

She said it's a coincidence that she was in Massachusetts, so it was a coincidence. Did Romney announce a long time ago that he was announcing he was going to announce today in New Hampshire. She has her agenda, schedule with this Bus Tour, I am sure , in fact I know she dosn't get up in the AM and say, " Hey lets got to Connecticut, I heard there was this Pizza place in New Haven , Peppies, Pizza that is the best in the world,[It is or as good as ] and on the way we'll meet some people.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 2, 2011 15:32:15 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jun 2, 2011 15:16:36 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

I do believe that "hometown" can be where you were born, where you were raised, and/or where your currently reside. Now, granted, Romney technically owns a house in Belmont, not Boston but Belmont is a suburb of Boston (had a great Aunt in Watertown...a mere stone throw from Belmont...that we used to visit at least a couple times/month growing up).

Heck...who really cares. Romneycare is going to bury him.

not anymore, floridayankee. he sold his Belmont home back in 2009. he stays with his son on the rare occasions he finds himself within state borders nowadays. that's what I said in my first reply, which you've quoted. Belmont is absolutely a suburb of Boston, and I'm well aware of where in the state it is located, thanks.

the point was, I don't see the irony that Paul does in where Palin chooses to tear Romney up. this is not his hometown, and he's not well-loved around the state these days. I can say with confidence that he will not win the MA primary, if he is still in the race at that time.

Chiver are you affected by Mass health care, if so, same, better, lots more $, problems..if up a bit most medical is, but if up tremendously from what it was..just curiouse.

[chiver78]

Jun 2, 2011 21:15:37 GMT -5 upstatemom said:

Jun 2, 2011 18:25:50 GMT -5 @lakhota said:

Elisabeth Hasselbeck Rips Sarah Palin

www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/02/elisabeth-hasselbeck-sara_n_870511.html

And we should care what Hasselbeck and the other nobodies on the view have to say? Sorry, never watched it, never will!

Elizabeth Hasselbeck spouts her mind in other places than the View.....just saying. she doesn't contain it to just the show. I wish she would, I could just avoid the show.


dezi - I haven't personally benefited from the law changes, but that's because I work for a company with stellar benefits. I'm fully aware of that, but can say that my family (parents/sis) have been able to take advantage of wider-reaching insurance policies that were previously unavailable for whatever reason. TBH, my own copays and premiums haven't changed much. I didn't expect them to, I'm single and have a single policy.

I think the biggest indicator I can provide that the state of access to health care in MA hasn't been bogged down at all by increased access overall - late last summer, I called in to my dr's office on a Thursday to set up an 'unplanned visit' to check on a knee injury. I went in to the next morning for an office visit. my dr said that I should have an MRI to see which route to take for treatment. 1) an MRI, right off the bat? uh, ok.... 2) it was scheduled and pre-approved by my insurance that same day, and 3) I had the MRI on Saturday afternoon, 2 towns away.

if so many more people are supposedly getting seen because of this increased accessibility, how did I get in to see my doc the day after I called? never mind the rest of the dominoes that fell into place. if you believe the loudest opponents to mandated health insurance, I shouldn't have been seen for months.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 2, 2011 22:29:35 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jun 2, 2011 21:15:37 GMT -5 upstatemom said:

And we should care what Hasselbeck and the other nobodies on the view have to say? Sorry, never watched it, never will!

Elizabeth Hasselbeck spouts her mind in other places than the View.....just saying. she doesn't contain it to just the show. I wish she would, I could just avoid the show.


dezi - I haven't personally benefited from the law changes, but that's because I work for a company with stellar benefits. I'm fully aware of that, but can say that my family (parents/sis) have been able to take advantage of wider-reaching insurance policies that were previously unavailable for whatever reason. TBH, my own copays and premiums haven't changed much. I didn't expect them to, I'm single and have a single policy.

I think the biggest indicator I can provide that the state of access to health care in MA hasn't been bogged down at all by increased access overall - late last summer, I called in to my dr's office on a Thursday to set up an 'unplanned visit' to check on a knee injury. I went in to the next morning for an office visit. my dr said that I should have an MRI to see which route to take for treatment. 1) an MRI, right off the bat? uh, ok.... 2) it was scheduled and pre-approved by my insurance that same day, and 3) I had the MRI on Saturday afternoon, 2 towns away.

if so many more people are supposedly getting seen because of this increased accessibility, how did I get in to see my doc the day after I called? never mind the rest of the dominoes that fell into place. if you believe the loudest opponents to mandated health insurance, I shouldn't have been seen for months.

Thanks chiver, actually should and will question my daughter , she is in Concord with her family, sonin law gets his insurence through his work.

So if your covered at work already, then you stay with that,but if not them you can find a program tailored to your needs, affordability?

Are companys canceling their programs, save their contributions to, thus making workers have to go to the State?

I understand Romney only gave you people one term, but I do like him for a Republican, meaning I would listen to his story for 2012, didn't say vote but listen, and then decide.
I also care for the one from New Mexico too. Gary Johnson.

However I don't think either will meet that old Republican litmus test to be consider a viable candidate though i beleive they would appeal to independents and some Democras..I don't believe Republicans care as much about that if they don't meet most of THEIR sacred wants. IMHO.

PS : Here , I was just reading this the other day on Gary Johnson, read this May,2011 interview and tell me what is not to like, consider about Johnson, for a middle to the left[/kinda liberal guysize] that would really turn one off...he's to me, not bad. Of course have to read and hear more, and I doubt I will, a very long shot , but hey, I like him. If there is a particuler issue I might disagree with who says I am correct, posible he has it right in the real world and me, what do I really know.
Nott hat it is a issue, but say I was pro life, I am not, am pro Choice but I was, that's tup to the courts anyway, not really thinking a POTUS, a smart one is going to get no more involved then just stting his issues and leave it at that, so what's the problem. Just a example of what I mean being able to live with a candidate that has a different view then mine on a issue ior two.
[Most things, well then , of course not, not my candidate}

www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/05/05/gary_johnson_most_interesting_republican

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 2, 2011 15:16:36 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Jun 2, 2011 14:19:41 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

for the record, Boston is not his hometown. he's wasn't born here, his family isn't from here, he no longer lives here, and we don't want him anyway. you can have him.

I do believe that "hometown" can be where you were born, where you were raised, and/or where your currently reside. Now, granted, Romney technically owns a house in Belmont, not Boston but Belmont is a suburb of Boston (had a great Aunt in Watertown...a mere stone throw from Belmont...that we used to visit at least a couple times/month growing up).

Heck...who really cares. Romneycare is going to bury him.

Exactly. RomneyCare is indefensible, and IMHO, he missed his opportunity to ADMIT HE WAS WRONG, ADMIT IT ISN'T WORKING, and he doesn't necessarily have to apologize- but he's got to express some regrets that he thought it would work and he was wrong.

What is curious is the timing of Sarah Palin blasting him, and picking apart RomneyCare.

Do you think it was purely 'coincidental'? I don't. I think she deliberately took the wind out of his sails at THE perfect time either to make room for another candidate, or to bolster her own potential candidacy.

[floridayankee]

Jun 2, 2011 15:32:15 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

the point was, I don't see the irony that Paul does in where Palin chooses to tear Romney up. this is not his hometown...

You're getting hung up on the little stuff chiver since it's really not important to the point of the article whether it is actually his "hometown" or not.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 3, 2011 8:52:48 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Jun 2, 2011 15:32:15 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

the point was, I don't see the irony that Paul does in where Palin chooses to tear Romney up. this is not his hometown...

You're getting hung up on the little stuff chiver since it's really not important to the point of the article whether it is actually his "hometown" or not.

He owns a home in the suburbs of Boston. As far as I'm concerned that's close enough to the definition of home town as we need for that MINOR detail of the larger story which is the TIMING and LOCATION of Sarah Palin's choosing to start picking apart RomneyCare and SPECIFICALLY stating that Romney is going to have real problems with the TEA Party vote.

[chiver78]

Jun 3, 2011 8:59:58 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 3, 2011 8:52:48 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

You're getting hung up on the little stuff chiver since it's really not important to the point of the article whether it is actually his "hometown" or not.

He owns a home in the suburbs of Boston. As far as I'm concerned that's close enough to the definition of home town as we need for that MINOR detail of the larger story which is the TIMING and LOCATION of Sarah Palin's choosing to start picking apart RomneyCare and SPECIFICALLY stating that Romney is going to have real problems with the TEA Party vote.

if either of you read my replies, you'd know that I'm not hung up on semantics. I've answered why I don't like the man, as well as why he won't carry the state of MA.

you both keep saying he owns property here, and he does not. as long as you continue to provide bad information, I will continue to call you on it.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 3, 2011 9:01:57 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jun 3, 2011 8:59:58 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

He owns a home in the suburbs of Boston. As far as I'm concerned that's close enough to the definition of home town as we need for that MINOR detail of the larger story which is the TIMING and LOCATION of Sarah Palin's choosing to start picking apart RomneyCare and SPECIFICALLY stating that Romney is going to have real problems with the TEA Party vote.

if either of you read my replies, you'd know that I'm not hung up on semantics. I've answered why I don't like the man, as well as why he won't carry the state of MA.

you both keep saying he owns property here, and he does not. as long as you continue to provide bad information, I will continue to call you on it.

ADMIT that the location of Sarah Palin's choosing to pick apart RomneyCare-- in MA where he was governor-- matters to the story. ADMIT that it's at the very least symbolic, and given the timing, it is relevant to the story REGARDLESS of where he may or may not own property. Would you accept "home state".

Jeeze. To say this isn't about symantics is ridiculous. Of course it is.

The point of the story is the strategic LOCATION and timing of Palin's speech. That doesn't change because of the nuances of whether or not he actually lived there, or where he lives now, or if he owns property there currently. HE WAS GOVERNOR OF THE DAMN STATE, ROMNEYCARE IS HIS BABY.

A few hourse before he rolls out with his Obamaesque speech in N.H. Palin is back in his "home state" or "the state where he was governor" blasting him.

The fact that we've gone on this long about the DETAILS that DO NOT MATTER to the story is proof positive this isn't about anything BUT symantics.

Now, either you get the point of the story, or you don't. But I'm done giving a shit about the details.

[chiver78]

Jun 3, 2011 9:11:18 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 3, 2011 9:01:57 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

if either of you read my replies, you'd know that I'm not hung up on semantics. I've answered why I don't like the man, as well as why he won't carry the state of MA.

you both keep saying he owns property here, and he does not. as long as you continue to provide bad information, I will continue to call you on it.

ADMIT that the location of Sarah Palin's choosing to pick apart RomneyCare-- in MA where he was governor-- matters to the story. ADMIT that it's at the very least symbolic, and given the timing, it is relevant to the story REGARDLESS of where he may or may not own property. Would you accept "home state".

Jeeze. To say this isn't about symantics is ridiculous. Of course it is.

The point of the story is the strategic LOCATION and timing of Palin's speech. That doesn't change because of the nuances of whether or not he actually lived there, or where he lives now, or if he owns property there currently. HE WAS GOVERNOR OF THE DAMN STATE, ROMNEYCARE IS HIS BABY.

A few hourse before he rolls out with his Obamaesque speech in N.H. Palin is back in his "home state" or "the state where he was governor" blasting him.

The fact that we've gone on this long about the DETAILS that DO NOT MATTER to the story is proof positive this isn't about anything BUT symantics.

Now, either you get the point of the story, or you don't. But I'm done giving a shit about the details.

Paul, it's ironic to those of you that find irony in it. to those of us that don't give a shit about either Romney OR Palin, and whatever campaigns either might run, it's a non-story.

but if you want to keep using incorrect information to spin your story on one non-candidate tearing up another poor candidate's prior actions, have at it. I'm just sick of seeing posts where you pontificate on the hidden meaning of the wrong information that gave you the idea in the first place. I figured I'd help you out a little, and give you the correct information. since it doesn't help your cause, you tell me I'm missing your point. since your point was wrong, of course I missed it.

neither of these people will be occupying the White House next term, so it's a moot point anyway. enjoy your day.

[floridayankee]

Jun 3, 2011 9:01:57 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

if either of you read my replies, you'd know that I'm not hung up on semantics. I've answered why I don't like the man, as well as why he won't carry the state of MA.

I read your reply...I just don't believe it's really that important one way or another. Even if it's not Romney's hometown, Boston is still the birthplace of Romney's signature legislation and where Palin decided to speak out against it.

BTW, I don't care much for Romney either...don't care much for flip-flops.

you both keep saying he owns property here, and he does not. as long as you continue to provide bad information, I will continue to call you on it.

I simply went off what wiki said since I moved out of New England 10 years ago and have no ongoing daily interest of the Yankee happenings up there. It also said he owns property in San Diego. You are correct though...a little research reveals he sold his Belmont property 2 years ago.

I admit it....you win...Romney does not own his home outside Boston any more.

Still completely insignificant to the story....IMHO, of course.