Bluerobin
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Post by Bluerobin on May 29, 2011 7:00:38 GMT -5
Replace the crosses with small statues of troopers, and walla - no problem. The Damn State should NOT endorse religion. No, I am not an athiest, just anti religion.
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Shirina
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Post by Shirina on May 29, 2011 7:17:43 GMT -5
Oh, you would have loved it here in North Carolina two weeks ago, cereb. There was a rally in support of anti-gay legislation, and some state senators had the temerity to literally quote scripture to justify it. I had a friend attend a counter-protest, and she said the parking lot was filled with church buses. Anti-gay legislation is almost exclusively religious law handed to us by Christians who think everyone should live by their rules.
After this clear violation of the 1st Amendment, Christians should consider themselves DAMNED lucky that Atheists are only taking issue with some roadside crosses. Rue the day if Atheists ever organize given that we are one of the largest minority groups in the nation.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 29, 2011 8:34:08 GMT -5
Rue the day if Atheists ever organize given that we are one of the largest minority groups in the nation. Should we take that comment as a (1) Threat, (2) Warning or (3) Prophecy? And don't you already have a strong Atheist Organization or Community that relies heavily on the ACLU for most of your law suits against individuals, companies, and the government..?? BTW as you probably know or should be aware of this Atheists Organization is not a big fan or Islam either: Islam is not the religion of peace. It is a death sentence to modern society. The Qur'an is said to have been written by Mahomet (Mohammad) as dictated to him by Allah (God) although Mahomet was illiterate. Mahomet was sleeping in a cave in Mecca when the angel Gabriel came to him and cut the prophet’s belly open. Gabriel washed the prophet’s organs and then poured a magic potion into his heart to give the prophet strength and wisdom. Then a winged ass with a human head (Buraq) flew to him and Gabriel held the ass and told the prophet to mount it. The ass flew to several towns and came to rest in Jerusalem. There, steps were revealed to the prophet, one gold, the next silver, and the next gold and so on, up into the first level of heaven. There the prophet saw 12,000 angels who were each in charge of 12,000 angels. The prophet traverses 7 levels of heaven and sees Jesus, Moses, Adam, Satan (who does not smile upon seeing him), etc. He climbs one more level into paradise and Allah dictates his rules for life, the Qur'an. Allah told Mahomet he wanted all Muslims to pray 50 times a day, but Moses spoke with the prophet explaining the near impossible task and suggested Mahomet renegotiate with Allah. He did, and prayer was reduced to 5 times per day (Huge give on Allah's part). Mahomet leaves the same way he came. When he arrives back in Mecca, unbelievers question his wild story, so a wise man asks him to describe Jerusalem, since Mahomet had supposedly never been there. Mahomet describes the town in detail, so his story is believed! Thus the great attraction for Muslims and their pilgrimage to Mecca to see the famous “Black Stone” which was supposedly the starting point of Mahomet’s “Night Journey.” Muslims claim the Qur'an is untouched in translation and is pure (not like the bible and all its translations). They claim the Qur'an is peaceful. What many people do not understand are Hadiths, which are amendments to the Qur'an, and are to be honored over the Qur'an. They are amendments orchestrated by Mahomet, after the fact. They are like the “Hey, wait a minute, new rule!” However, the Hadiths supersede Qur'an verses. If there are two verses which seem to contradict, it is the later verse which is followed. The earlier verses are the peaceful ones which Muslims will quote to infidels (non-Muslims) but it is the later, more violent rules, which they follow. They will never admit this to an infidel. Then there is TAQIYYA (pronounced Ta-kee-yeh) which allows Muslims to deceive or outright lie to infidels if it furthers the cause of Islam. So, Muslims lie about the religion they call peaceful, they say whatever they like, as long as it helps them spread Islam throughout the world. Their objective is to spread the word of Allah to everyone, if you do not convert, you will die or pay a religious tax. If you do convert and later change your mind (Apostasy), the penalty is also death. This is indoctrinated into the minds of children from birth. The final blow is called Sharia Law, where the absurd penalties of these ancient scripture are carried out in modern day. Adulterers are stoned to death while buried up to their waist in the ground. Thieves have their hands cut off. Death to anyone who draws a picture of the prophet. Death to all homosexuals. Family members kill their own children if they bring dishonor on the family or the community. And the list of barbarism goes on and on. Coming to a town hear you, as mosques (prayer buildings) are being built across the nation. Muslims are demanding pork be removed from school menus. Demanding their children be allowed to pray to Mecca during school hours on school property. Forcing their females to wear the burqa (all covering veil/dress) to school and work. etc... etc... Listen to the crazy man on the corner holding the sign “The End is Near!” for he may be absolutely correct if we allow this religion to flourish. Islamic "holy" Scripture ~ The Qur'an (or Koran) Click on the picture of the prophet which links to The American Atheist's Webster for an article written by Frank R. Zindler, where he dives deep into the particulars about this religion and totalitarian political system. You may be surprised to learn that "Satanic Verses" were removed from the Qur'an making it not as "original" as they claim. www.theatheistadvocate.com/Islam.html
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Bluerobin
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Post by Bluerobin on May 29, 2011 10:44:43 GMT -5
Christians get tax breaks. Do atheists?
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Post by cme1201 on May 29, 2011 11:05:33 GMT -5
Christians get tax breaks. Do atheists? What specific tax breaks do Christians receive that atheist's cannot receive? Unless you are speaking about Churches/Synagogues/Mosques/Temples or ther house's of worship recieve, which any religion not just Christians get.
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Post by txbo on May 29, 2011 12:44:42 GMT -5
Thanks cereb.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 12:59:00 GMT -5
SO-- seems that, even though the families of these fallen troopers were glad to have their fallen honored by these markers, some here would be offended to remember these heroes, because of the crosses?? Uh.. okay.. Yet it seems people are okay with the by the road shrines, also.... interesting. Weird, though. If I was driving by someplace with whatever marking it I would think or say nothing at all if it was honoring someone that fell in the line of duty. But that's just me. NOW-- since this IS Mormon land, and Mormons do not use crosses, but spires reaching towards Heaven, I suppose if these were replaced by spires that would be okay?? Just no crosses?
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