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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 25, 2011 17:02:56 GMT -5
More bumbling incompetence from the Obama regime. President Obama's limo bottomed out and got stuck in Dublin, Ireland. The advance team didn't actually DRIVE the route? They left our President a sitting duck. Nice.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 25, 2011 17:03:49 GMT -5
Mistakes happen.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 17:05:44 GMT -5
Too bad the Obamas don't want any smart people around them. I'm beginning to think the qualification for a job close to them has to do more with the color of one's nose than any actual expertise or knowledge.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 17:06:31 GMT -5
And happen, and happen, and happen. . . Incompetence is a real issue here.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 25, 2011 17:06:39 GMT -5
Wouldn't the United States Secret Service be responsible for this?
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 17:08:57 GMT -5
Yes, Molly, they would. And they are. But the administration has a choice about who is on that detail. I'm guessing that something other than excellence is used to decide who will be where. The buzz is that people who should have access to the president do not have access to him. And others who have no business with access see him all the time. It makes it hard for people to do their jobs.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 25, 2011 17:19:13 GMT -5
Mistakes like this get people killed. This isn't a "whoopsie daisy" there are no whoopsies at that level.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 25, 2011 17:19:27 GMT -5
Yes, Molly, they would. And they are. But the administration has a choice about who is on that detail. I'm guessing that something other than excellence is used to decide who will be where. The buzz is that people who should have access to the president do not have access to him. And others who have no business with access see him all the time. It makes it hard for people to do their jobs. Link please??
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Post by flopsy on May 25, 2011 17:20:05 GMT -5
obviously those things need some pimping out with a serious set of hydraulics
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Post by ed1066 on May 25, 2011 17:25:39 GMT -5
obviously those things need some pimping out with a serious set of hydraulics Where is Michael Knight when you need him?
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 17:29:35 GMT -5
obviously those things need some pimping out with a serious set of hydraulics Oh man!!!!!
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 17:36:33 GMT -5
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Post by EVT1 on May 25, 2011 17:40:04 GMT -5
Someone's fired. I'd be nervous in a stuck limo- then again I watched a lot of 24.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 25, 2011 18:50:05 GMT -5
I agree that it's a huge safety concern as well as a threat. I hope that the Secret Service is more vigilant and careful in the future and watches for things like this.
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Post by ed1066 on May 25, 2011 18:54:33 GMT -5
Does anyone know how they got it "unstuck"? That big gray bus pulled up to block the cameras...
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Post by billisonboard on May 25, 2011 18:55:12 GMT -5
Yes, Molly, they would. And they are. But the administration has a choice about who is on that detail. I'm guessing that something other than excellence is used to decide who will be where. The buzz is that people who should have access to the president do not have access to him. And others who have no business with access see him all the time. It makes it hard for people to do their jobs. This would be the work of an advance crew who would not be the people who are surrounding the president. Totally misguiding criticism here.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 19:05:14 GMT -5
The advance team didn't actually DRIVE the route? They left our President a sitting duck.Gee this many replies & nobody yet has claimed that it was a Republican plot. There must be a national liberal meeting somewhere that doesn't have Internet service.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 25, 2011 19:34:36 GMT -5
That's the driveway leading in and out of the U.S. Embassy, I believe. And I'm assuming the limo first went down the driveway ..... but possibly with fewer people than who were in the car on the way out?
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Post by ed1066 on May 25, 2011 19:40:07 GMT -5
Yes, Molly, they would. And they are. But the administration has a choice about who is on that detail. I'm guessing that something other than excellence is used to decide who will be where. The buzz is that people who should have access to the president do not have access to him. And others who have no business with access see him all the time. It makes it hard for people to do their jobs. This would be the work of an advance crew who would not be the people who are surrounding the president. Totally misguiding criticism here. Actually, there is an advance team that drives the route, but the limo driver is the same one who will drive when the president is in the vehicle as well, for obvious reasons (also, all the agents who ride in the limo are qualified to drive it in case the primary driver is incapacitated). He needs to know every inch of the route and have driven it previously. They usually use stand-ins as passengers for accurate weight and handling, too. Don't know what happened this time...
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 19:53:32 GMT -5
Does anyone know how they got it "unstuck"? That big gray bus pulled up to block the cameras... The bomb-proof Cadillac limousine, known as “the Beast”, had become wedged on a ramp while leaving the underground car park of the US embassy on Monday. Eamon Kelly of Kelly’s Towing Service in Kilmacanogue, Co Wicklow, the company called to tow the vehicle, said yesterday that it took his company three hours to remove it. “It was a big problem because the vehicle was not designed to be towed,” said Mr Kelly. “It’s an armour-plated vehicle so there’s a lot of weight involved in it.” Mr Kelly, whose son Keith attended the scene, said damage to the vehicle meant it could not be lifted in the normal way by its wheels. “It was tricky job, we had to adapt our vehicle to lift it because we wouldn’t be used to lifting American stuff . . . the lifting points on that were slightly different to what we would have on European vehicles,” he told RTÉ Liveline programme. Mr Kelly, who said the suspension on the vehicle had been damaged, said the vehicle had to be brought back down the ramp because to bring it up the ramp would have done more damage. Commenting on the atmosphere during the rescue operation, he said: “We were there for about three hours until the time it was moved, because, don’t forget, you are under severe pressure in the sense that you have secret service and you have police, and everyone knows how to do it.” Once the vehicle was unwedged, Mr Kelly said it was put on a low-loader truck and brought to a secret location on Monday night before being brought to an aircraft yesterday afternoon. He said his son was not allowed into the vehicle during the operation. “Security was very tight; every move we made they were there watching.” Footage of the moment when the limousine got stuck has become a YouTube hit. It was initially thought Barack Obama and his wife were in the vehicle at the time. The White House later confirmed they were not. Mr Kelly said that while the vehicle “wasn’t bunched” it “wasn’t driveable”. He described the job as the company’s “most high profile” rescue. www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0525/1224297715955.html
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 19:54:45 GMT -5
So now we gotta pay to get the damn thing fixed and the first couple wasn't even in it?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 19:58:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I heard that yesterday. Weird, huh? How much did that monster cost and WHAT was the POTUS riding in?
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 20:02:34 GMT -5
That's the driveway leading in and out of the U.S. Embassy, I believe. And I'm assuming the limo first went down the driveway ..... but possibly with fewer people than who were in the car on the way out? It might have had a different angle going in. Mrs. Obama wasn't in the car. Have heard a lot of jokes in that regard.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 25, 2011 20:07:57 GMT -5
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Post by ed1066 on May 26, 2011 0:14:09 GMT -5
Dollars to donuts that's a lie. You could tell by the way the Secret Service arrayed outside the vehicle that it was occupied by POTUS...
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Post by marshabar1 on May 26, 2011 0:40:36 GMT -5
Dollars to donuts that's a lie. You could tell by the way the Secret Service arrayed outside the vehicle that it was occupied by POTUS...
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 26, 2011 0:55:02 GMT -5
Do you think they have Triple A for that thing .... or did they have to pay for that tow?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2011 1:06:55 GMT -5
Weird thing is we flew it over there?? If I read right... Do they not have fancy cars for heads of state there?? And all this while Joplin has people buried alive and missing.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 26, 2011 1:24:09 GMT -5
Dollars to donuts that's a lie. You could tell by the way the Secret Service arrayed outside the vehicle that it was occupied by POTUS... But ed , there is media around, a slow news day, so they check a bit find the SS LIED, and now it's a lie blamed on Obama, another scandle and we are getting into the beginning of the election period. If the POTUS lied on a little thing, was he or was he not in the limo..then what about the biggies, to close to the run up to the campaigning ed, he wasn't in the limo. A year ago, possible, ;D
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Post by henryclay on May 26, 2011 1:34:29 GMT -5
No, kricckitt, they don't have anythng that meets their safety standards in "any" foreign country. When he goes it is as a complete self contained package. They even bring their own fuel for their vehicles when they go overseas. In the states they may also, but if not, then they block off wherever they plan to get services, check everything, do samplings and disrupt the entire neighborhood. The locals all think a 5 alarm raid is taking place and people are going to jail or some such, until they drive away and the word gets out that it was the president. By then he's long gone. Sometimes they do it even when he's not coming there, just as a decoy for any would be attackers.
And preventing all that confusion is one of the big reasons they go as a self contained unit.
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