Three things muslims don't tell about the Koran.

[henryclay]

A video, made in Sweden, about 8 minutes. No spin, no hype, references only from the Koran.

[lakhota]

More racist horseshit from confused/scared righties!

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Which part, Lak?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

crickets...

[fairlycrazy23]

There are parts in the bible that aren't pretty, it is all about how "orthodox" they are about it.
Religion can be a force for good, but can also be used to get people to do 'bad' things.

[henryclay]

This is how muslims made their way into European societies.

. . . . ome judges are making decisions deferring to Shariah law even when those decisions conflict with constitutional protections.

On the releasing the study, the Center for Security Policy's President, Frank J. Gaffney, Jr., observed:
These cases are the stories of Muslim American families, mostly Muslim women and children, who were asking American courts to preserve their rights to equal protection and due process. These families came to America for freedom from the discriminatory and cruel laws of Shariah. When our courts then apply Shariah law in the lives of these families, and deny them equal protection, they are betraying the principles on which America was founded

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[Opti]

May 19, 2011 9:45:47 GMT -5 fairlycrazy23 said:

There are parts in the bible that aren't pretty, it is all about how "orthodox" they are about it.
Religion can be a force for good, but can also be used to get people to do 'bad' things.

Absolutely. Given all the laws written in the old testament that are
ignored it would be nice to get some balanced coverage as to what
real non crazy Muslims actually follow in the Koran. Just one example, I've seen a quote Virgil posted about Muslims that they are
not supposed to associate with Christians and Jews. I have a feeling this is ignored by most Muslims just like marrying off a rape victim to her rapist if both are unmarried is not followed here either.



The odds of finding that out here are slim to none I expect.

[Opti]

May 19, 2011 9:52:03 GMT -5 henryclay said:

This is how muslims made their way into European societies.


[blockquote]. . . . ome judges are making decisions deferring to Shariah law even when those decisions conflict with constitutional protections.

On the releasing the study, the Center for Security Policy's President, Frank J. Gaffney, Jr., observed:
These cases are the stories of Muslim American families, mostly Muslim women and children, who were asking American courts to preserve their rights to equal protection and due process. These families came to America for freedom from the discriminatory and cruel laws of Shariah. When our courts then apply Shariah law in the lives of these families, and deny them equal protection, they are betraying the principles on which America was founded

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I believe they moved there arriving by plane, boat and other transportation methods.

Logic fixed.

[Deleted]

The video made it clear why the Koran is to be taken literally, later verses taking precedence over earlier ones, explained all the lies told to Americans by so called "peaceful" Muslim leaders in the US. This is not the Bible, people, as explained. This is why the so called peaceful Muslims are not in the streets protesting radical Islam with the rest of us.. well, some of us-- the ones that don't buy the party line that evil USA deserves whatever we get.. for a Muslim to do so would be punishable by death. So says the Koran.
Keep trying, Henry. No telling how far they will get before the liberals they HATE the most finally wake up. While they see us all as infidels, the "fornicators, gays, adulterers, etc" will be first on their list to die.

Nothing racist pointing out facts about Islam... the Koran does not specify color, only code.

[Deleted]

The really nice ones prefer the anonymous southern border transportation system to enter the US. Of course, this has been in the works so long now America is breeding it's own Islamic terrorists now, as well as converting them from the fertile grounds of the malcontent in prisons, etc.

[Opti]

Fine Krickitt, believe the extremists.

[Deleted]

They are counting on you not believing them, Optimist. So it is written. Have you read up, I mean REALLY read up, on CAIR and organizations like that in the USA, or do you just believe what is told you? These groups have been getting exposed for YEARS now in and out of courtrooms, but still people won't believe. Why? Just because groups and organizations are not "traditional" Americans, does that automatically mean they are right?

[bubblyandblue]

Timothy Mcvay (sp) - he was a muslim?

[Deleted]

Are there millions of Timothy McVeighs??? (sp?)

[shelby]

It may not be racist but it is extremist as optimist pointed out. Also a grand generalization of and general disgust/fear of a people you admittedly know nothing about. My children happen to go to a Muslim owned daycare the nicest couple (foreigners even ooh how scary right) and the best daycare I have had after many horrible experiences with nonmuslim daycares. Funny their religious beliefs never even came into mind for me maybe I should have been more afraid of the boogyman. There is a lesbian couple who have their children cared for by them do you think they are plotting against them and other fornicators? How about YOU wake up from your xenophobe nightmare.

[Opti]

"They are counting on you not believing them, Optimist. So it is written. Have you read up, I mean REALLY read up, on CAIR and organizations like that in the USA, or do you just believe what is told you?"

No, I'm not going to read up on the bad organizations on this planet, bad Muslims, Westboro Baptists, skin heads, etc. I'm going to let those who fear them attract them into their lives and I'll stay clear.

FYI, last year I met two Muslims and both were very nice to me and the one says hi occasionally when he sees me. I'm not joining the fear mongering right on this just as I didn't for the supposed weapons of mass destruction, etc.

Do you just believe crazy scary crap you read?

[Opti]

FYI, remember that part of the bible where it says it is done unto you as you believe?



If you believe scary nasty people are out to get you, it will come true. That's how it works.

[Deleted]

So you are safe from harm because you do not believe in scary, nasty things? Living in a cocoon of safety because of your personal beliefs?

[shelby]

YES I do not buy into the fear mongering especially the right loves to use. Again when was the last time we did not have a supposed enemy (communist, Nazis, Russians, Japanese, Muslims, WMDs, terrorists etc. etc.). I have known Muslims before and they are open to rational discussions about their Faith and culture much more rational than many Christians in fact. They know they are greatly misunderstood and just a fact of life people like you keep perpetuating. We live in a society that creates fear daily and I choose not to live that way my choice.

[bubblyandblue]

Isn't there a song about the land of the brave or something?

[henryclay]

While it is probably true that very few Amerians understand why muslims are "different", it is also true that some Americans are trying to learn. Others seem satisfied to travel the road of least resistance and just not recognize it, even often argue against the thought, that there is a difference.

WHAT IS SHARIAH LAW?

To begin, Shariah, or the “proper way", is considered the divine will of Allah as articulated in two canonical sources. The first is the Qur’an, which is considered the perfect expression of Allah’s will for man. Every word is perfect and unalterable except and unless altered by some subsequent word of Allah.

Our findings suggest that Shariah law has entered into state court decisions, in conflict with the Constitution and state public policy. Some commentators have said there are no more than one or two cases of Shariah law in U.S. state court cases; yet we found 50 significant cases just from the small sample of appellate published cases. Others state with certainty that state court judges will always reject any foreign law, including Shariah law, when it conflicts with the Constitution or state public policy; yet we found 15 Trial Court cases, and 12 Appellate Court cases, where Shariah was found to be applicab e in the case at bar. The facts are the facts: some judges are making decisions deferring to Shariah law even when those decisions conflict with Constitutional protections. This is a serious issue and should be a subject of public debate and engagement by policymakers.

shariahinamericancourts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Shariah-Law-and-American-State-Courts-1.2-05182011.pdf