wins lottery, still eligible for food stamps

[Politically_Incorrect12]

May 19, 2011 8:08:00 GMT -5 ugonow said:

Sounds like he should get a tax break now.

What "tax breaks" do you honestly think the wealthy are getting?

[ugonow]

He can now right off his gambleing losses for one thing.

[bubblyandblue]

Maybe, just maybe, we need to stop the pandering to the privalege and special interests that are subverting the law and cheating the system to the detriment of society. Where is our compass when we have a policy of 'to big to fail' .... if that ain't privalege then what is?.
Yes, tax the rich more - they already have a form of food stamps - called entitlement. They have their entitlement by getting their privalege through regulatory capture - see how that worked out by taking a look around on main street.

[Value Buy]

May 19, 2011 8:25:39 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

May 19, 2011 5:30:02 GMT -5 @toughtimes said:

First, 2 million dollars will be paid off so many thousand dollars at a time over 20 years. If he has been on welfare for a while, he already owes then tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands, so that should take care of at least the first year. Then he will have to pay off medicaid, that should take care of a good part of a couple of years too. He will be unable to continue getting either of these programs so if he gets hurt, goodbye lottery unless he buys health insurance which will easily cost him as much as a rent.

These are just the obvious ways the government can recapture cash. I am sure there are more. I cannot imagine there is not more to this story since the moron openly spoke about receiving food stamps. Why not keep mum and take with both hands?

I have known desperately poor people who had to pay medicaid back after they received judgments. One friend of mine received a judgment after an auto accident and I advised her to pay back all her old debts as Medicaid would take the money anyway and she would still owe everyone else too.

She was a diabetic senior eking out a poverty existence on 11K in NYC.

He called the State to report his wind fall, asked what know regarding food stamps, they checked, told him to keep using them..reason why is in the original post , article I posted.

I didn't know that those who legitimately receive aid, no fraud, but legitimately qualify for aid , have to pay it back when they get work, no longer qualify or in this case come into $ legitimately, and as far as th one said he was violating something in buying a lottery ticket, he was not using the food stamp $, would not qualify, but possible other $ he has, such as legal qualified SS , just not enough to not have him qualify for food stamps, is my guess.

Something along those lines.

I have never heard of a payback after you get back on your feet either. I believe if there is an investigation, where something (bank funds, under reported income, etc,) is not reported, they might go after some payback.
It is unfortunate that a state like Michigan which still has massive unemployment and housing foreclosure problems allows this situation to occur. They owe their taxpayers AND unemployed citizens better results than this.

Sidenote: in the state of Indiana, if you win the Hoosier lottery I believe the income is taxfree of state income taxes?
I could be wrong, as I have never won, but I think that is how it was set up. Federal taxes, of course are due upon winning.

[Deleted]

Okay.. I get it.. tax the hell out of the old rich,and give the new rich food stamps.. am I getting warm?? Distribute the wealth,but leave the entitlements to the recipients of the redistributed wealth so they can use their new money and all those street smarts to ...buy more lottery tickets???

[ugonow]

Don't forget to fight for dry well subsidies for oil companies, airplane engines the military doesn't want, farm subsidies for congressmen,and rich musicians,ethonal subsidies for corn country and oil, and of course the congeessmen getting big contributions to keep them, but we must cut medicare and medicaid....the system is out of wack, all the way around,krickett.Every program is on the table....unless I benefit from it or my party has committed to it.

[Deleted]

For the sake of this particular thread, I am just trying to figure out why it is okay for this particular man to continue receiving food stamps.

[bubblyandblue]

Maybe a definition of entitlements is in order. I would first eliminate SS as an entitlement. It's not a budget item so, I would recognize that fact and not refer to it as a budget item. People pay for it when they work, wheather self employed or not. If you have not seen the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind then, I assume (with all the derogatory that comes with assumptions), you have been sleeping. So do I get it, transferring wealth out of the hands of people with street smarts to those with tyrannical power is OK but reverse the process and we are a bunch of socialists. I guess, the richest 1% of our population have all the street smarts as demonstrated by their expertise at gambling our future away and adhering to the rule of law - the rule of law they have fought hard for and, won in their favor.

[bubblyandblue]

No, this particular man, given the sparse facts on the table, should not continue to recieve food stamps.

[Deleted]

Thank you. If you stay on this board you will have plenty of opportunity to argue the rest of it. I promise.

[deziloooooo]

May 19, 2011 8:56:06 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

For the sake of this particular thread, I am just trying to figure out why it is okay for this particular man to continue receiving food stamps.

The answer is simple, he legally qualifies for them, read the article that was posted.

They are looking to LEGALLY get a ruling making a exception, a waver, so he does not receive the food stamps but till that comes out, he is not violating the law, the rules.

We are a country of rules, laws, unless you feel it is ok to arbitrarily have a official just change the rules because it seems that what is happening is not right, according to his feelings, even the feelings of the majority of the populace.

[Deleted]

No, I think the lowlife should have come out with a public statement that he would be donating X amount of food to some charity every single month until the snafu is fixed. Just me, I guess. Integrity.

[cme1201]

May 19, 2011 8:56:06 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

For the sake of this particular thread, I am just trying to figure out why it is okay for this particular man to continue receiving food stamps.

Because the rules of his state say that it is okay. I believe that he should stop using any benefits, but the state has made it clear to him that he is with-in his legal rights (and reading his guilt line his moral rights) to continue using them.

People shouldn't be mad at this jack-wagon, seems he followed the legal path by informing his state department of health and family services, people should be mad at the state for allowing this milking of the system to take place.

[deziloooooo]

May 19, 2011 9:22:04 GMT -5 cme1201 said:

May 19, 2011 8:56:06 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

For the sake of this particular thread, I am just trying to figure out why it is okay for this particular man to continue receiving food stamps.

Because the rules of his state say that it is okay. I believe that he should stop using any benefits, but the state has made it clear to him that he is with-in his legal rights (and reading his guilt line his moral rights) to continue using them.

People shouldn't be mad at this jack-wagon, seems he followed the legal path by informing his state department of health and family services, people should be mad at the state for allowing this milking of the system to take place.

Before we get all over the State, possible it was not considered, something like this happening, thus no rules in place.

I am sure a lot of legislatures throughout the country will be looking at it now.

We learn from experience.

[Deleted]

I would think normal people would not accept food stamps when they just won a couple mil, so states probably never even thought of it. I guess these days entitlement mentality must be taken in to consideration at all times. If it does not say NO that seems to mean YES-- even if it is not the right thing to do.

[ugonow]

We have senators and congressmen recieving entitlements.Why would you expect this schmuck to turn them down?

[Driftr]

May 19, 2011 9:43:27 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

I would think normal people would not accept food stamps when they just won a couple mil, so states probably never even thought of it. I guess these days entitlement mentality must be taken in to consideration at all times. If it does not say NO that seems to mean YES-- even if it is not the right thing to do.

Unfortunately, I think you just nailed it on the head.

[Deleted]

Okay-- more.. he took a lump sum large payment, and this was 2 years ago!!! He has been re-certified for food stamps since then!!!! And the state knows he has $800,000!! Lawyer says this is a FEDERAL issue, not state. I knew it was those changes Obama made a while back in food stamp eligibility. This makes me mad!!